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Old 08-01-2020, 07:48 PM   #9
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Re: 2K needs to stop asking casual Park players like Agent00 about gameplay

I have no idea if he personally spends a lot of money on MTX, but folks of his temperament do, so someone like him is an extremely valuable resource to them. Realistic gameplay in online sports games is a battle that has been lost.
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Old 08-01-2020, 09:00 PM   #10
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Why should they stop? This is who their target audience is.
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Old 08-01-2020, 10:08 PM   #11
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Re: 2K needs to stop asking casual Park players like Agent00 about gameplay

just saw mike wang suggest if they should go to the extreme with shooting. he asked agent what if in team pro am/comp games only greens should go in? of course he said yes lol.

theyll just make being able to have a perfectly release even easier if so. its funny what people deem a skill smh.
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Old 08-02-2020, 02:20 AM   #12
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Yeah a popular adage is that you tune for the elite player in H2H (if an average joe-schmoe can get 30 with Giannis the elite guy will get 80) but you disregard their gameplay suggestions.

Too frequently they'll ask for gameplay that caters to their play-style--even if its to the game's detriment. So no, let them give their opinions on youtube and leave them there lol.
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Old 08-02-2020, 02:33 AM   #13
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Re: 2K needs to stop asking casual Park players like Agent00 about gameplay

Whats ironic to me is that the gameplay was at its peak when 2k aimed for realistic gameplay. Even a park mode gameplay used to be so much better.

But why must game require some basketball knowledge and actual skill if it doesn't benefit popular youtubers. I've mentioned before that 2k optimize gameplay regarding social media influensers. Its just another confirmation.
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Old 08-02-2020, 08:14 AM   #14
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Yeah a popular adage is that you tune for the elite player in H2H (if an average joe-schmoe can get 30 with Giannis the elite guy will get 80) but you disregard their gameplay suggestions.

Too frequently they'll ask for gameplay that caters to their play-style--even if its to the game's detriment. So no, let them give their opinions on youtube and leave them there lol.
Exactly.

The problem with using these so called "Elite Players" on Youtube as your source of feedback is that they are not an objective source on the topic.As content creators who make their living from 2K content,they have a vested interest in the game playing a certain way that benefits themselves.The other thing is,being charismatic enough to attract a large fanbase on social media does not necessarily correlate to being knowledgeable about, or skilled in, either basketball or video games;it simply means they are an entertaining personality that is good at getting noticed.

Fanbases often tend to become group think echo chambers which will parrot whatever their "leader" says out of desire for social acceptance; we often see this with influencers getting their fanbase to flood social media with comments when some gameplay element or another the influencer relies on to be skilled at the game is removed or changed.

Now I'm not saying there isn't any place at all for their opinion;it just shouldn't be the only opinion they seek out on a regular basis,nor should it have have any more weight than any other well thought out opinion brought to the table.

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Old 08-02-2020, 10:09 AM   #15
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i would hope that 2K reaching out to some of the big youtubers like this is their way of showing that they listen to the community and is just a PR tactic more so than them looking for actual input on what the game needs to improve
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Old 08-02-2020, 11:00 AM   #16
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Football Manager by SiGames are king in terms of looking at real feedback and creating a real simulation of the sport game they create. (They don't care for masses at all if the subject is about solid feedback!) They just try to replicate the good game of simulation and fun comes with it on its own.

As the last year first released clearly showed that all 2k and most of their devs starting from Mike Wang care is Youtubers and Twitter(both are not reliable sources of feedback in any logical business) but ofcourse the logic there is to cater those casuals so that makes it a "logical" way of doing/creating a game.

For the last 2-3 years 2k has definitely sailed away from being a simulation basketball game, yes there are very strong parts of basketball simulation in it because of all the legacy that they've been building for years yet they go apart and away from those to the other end of having a fun arcade game in which you have a ball and you just try to put it thru a basket with a green release race and before that you make all those silly cheesy whatever moves you can to think you play any kind of a streetball..

It's sad and i think we, here on OS simheads can't really do anything about it.

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