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Old 12-07-2020, 10:50 PM   #89
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Re: Evidence why next gen pick and roll and help defense needs lots of work still

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I got a "return to the main menu" update today, and now I THINK every team has had their defensive settings defaulted to Switch and Pre-Rotate, so now with the right sliders their help and PnR defense is actually pretty damn good.

I've played against the Lakers, Clippers, Nets, Rockets, Bucks, Celtics, Heat, Mavs, and 76ers (not full games but long enough to test PnR defense and help D for each), and both USER and CPU defense has been much improved.

I even jacked up Play Passing Lanes to 100 and the hedge defender still dropped or switched to defend the drive most of the time. There were a few instances that the hedge abandoned the lane to cover the screener (when the screener was set to Fade instead of Roll), but that was only a few times and that was only with Play Passing Lanes set 75-100. It was rare enough that I can definitely live with it, and the help D was usually strong enough that someone rotating over to help protect the rim almost always made up for the hedge defender sticking to the screener.

Is everyone else seeing the same thing?
Defensive settings still not working for me. Pre rotate setting not working. Leave him setting not working. Bigs still watching straight line drives
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Old 12-08-2020, 03:40 AM   #90
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Re: Evidence why next gen pick and roll and help defense needs lots of work still

Prior to release, Czar was saying pNr improvements would be patched in.

Has he confirmed that update was included in a patch?
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Old 12-08-2020, 09:05 AM   #91
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Re: Evidence why next gen pick and roll and help defense needs lots of work still

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Originally Posted by EccentricMeat
I got a "return to the main menu" update today, and now I THINK every team has had their defensive settings defaulted to Switch and Pre-Rotate, so now with the right sliders their help and PnR defense is actually pretty damn good.

I've played against the Lakers, Clippers, Nets, Rockets, Bucks, Celtics, Heat, Mavs, and 76ers (not full games but long enough to test PnR defense and help D for each), and both USER and CPU defense has been much improved.

I even jacked up Play Passing Lanes to 100 and the hedge defender still dropped or switched to defend the drive most of the time. There were a few instances that the hedge abandoned the lane to cover the screener (when the screener was set to Fade instead of Roll), but that was only a few times and that was only with Play Passing Lanes set 75-100. It was rare enough that I can definitely live with it, and the help D was usually strong enough that someone rotating over to help protect the rim almost always made up for the hedge defender sticking to the screener.

Is everyone else seeing the same thing?
This is MUSIC to my ears...so my questions is..say I made a roster of my own ...now is this patch tied into the latest/current roster? or will it automatically apply to my user made roster?
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Old 12-08-2020, 09:16 AM   #92
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Re: Evidence why next gen pick and roll and help defense needs lots of work still

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I got a "return to the main menu" update today, and now I THINK every team has had their defensive settings defaulted to Switch and Pre-Rotate, so now with the right sliders their help and PnR defense is actually pretty damn good.
Just been playing myNBA with a few sliders and roster edits. Played a few games last night but didnít notice a jarring change in cpu defense. Will stress test a bit later tonight with some different matchups outside of myNBA file.


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Old 12-08-2020, 12:13 PM   #93
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Re: Evidence why next gen pick and roll and help defense needs lots of work still

It's no different. Some teams just play a little better so depending who you are playing against is probably why some might think its better.

I always test against the Pelicans. For some reason they have played the worst PNR defense that I've seen.
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Re: Evidence why next gen pick and roll and help defense needs lots of work still

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Prior to release, Czar was saying pNr improvements would be patched in.

Has he confirmed that update was included in a patch?
No. Nothing.

I had heard around release it was to be in patch 2 but that came and went and nothing.
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Old 12-08-2020, 12:29 PM   #95
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Re: Evidence why next gen pick and roll and help defense needs lots of work still

For those saying they donít see a difference, do you play with ACE on or off? I play with it off. I turned it on for one game and after the first quarter the PnR defense went back to being terrible half the time.

Iíll try some tests against the Pelicans and see whatís up.
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Re: Evidence why next gen pick and roll and help defense needs lots of work still

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Prior to release, Czar was saying pNr improvements would be patched in.

Has he confirmed that update was included in a patch?


Czar has went silent unfortunately


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