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Old 12-02-2020, 11:39 PM   #49
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Re: Evidence why next gen pick and roll and help defense needs lots of work still

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I do feel like a lot of this would be helped if the big just played a cleaner "drop" on the pick and roll as the default. Instead they get into weird hedging contests or trapping scenarios that don't work out well for them.

I understand it's hard to play a pick and roll 2 on 2, but since the help is spotty by default, a drop style would at least allow you to play it 2 on 2 and live with the mid range or running out to contest a pick and pop to the big.

(Also something I think has helped as a simple, base-level thing is just have the AI on "gap" for off-ball on everything and "moderate" on-ball.)
Try the settings I just posted. The big is dropping the majority of the time and giving me the mid-range shot.
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Try the settings I just posted. The big is dropping the majority of the time and giving me the mid-range shot.
I would but FIFA next-gen just came out suddenly

But I do want to try and work on a pick and roll video at some point next week.
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I would but FIFA next-gen just came out suddenly

But I do want to try and work on a pick and roll video at some point next week.
2K, Fifa now Madden.What to play???? lol
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2K, Fifa now Madden.What to play???? lol


Pretty easy decision for me lol


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Old 12-04-2020, 05:31 AM   #53
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I F’n give up. I put every speed stat at 0 for me and maxed out every defensive/speed stat for the cpu. The cpu defenders just won’t help. They just stick to there man. It’s like the cpu want to help. They stare at the driver but either do nothing or respond too late. This has to be patched because I can’t play the game. I have yet to play a full game because it’s just not fun or challenging at all. The defense is some of the worst **** I ever witnessed.

2k please just program the cpu to react to a driver of the basketball. I rather the cpu ignore a shooter than letting dunks and layups at will with no resistance smh

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I F’n give up. I put every speed stat at 0 for me and maxed out every defensive/speed stat for the cpu. The cpu defenders just won’t help. They just stick to there man. It’s like the cpu want to help. They stare at the driver but either do nothing or respond too late. This has to be patched because I can’t play the game. I have yet to play a full game because it’s just not fun or challenging at all. The defense is some of the worst **** I ever witnessed.

2k please just program the cpu to react to a driver of the basketball. I rather the cpu ignore a shooter than letting dunks and layups at will with no resistance smh

Check out the settings in my slider thread and give them a try. They should massively improve the help defense.
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Old 12-04-2020, 09:19 AM   #55
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Re: Evidence why next gen pick and roll and help defense needs lots of work still

This video sums it all in just 2 minutes:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPhdeqQ0DM4

eventhough its not at nextgen, seems like same "logic" prevails


Edit: P.S. Maybe the problem is with "Prerotate-Yes" being selected in Defensive settings. But, without that option, there is no drive and kick, no open threes, its even worse.

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Old 12-04-2020, 09:22 AM   #56
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I F’n give up. I put every speed stat at 0 for me and maxed out every defensive/speed stat for the cpu. The cpu defenders just won’t help. They just stick to there man. It’s like the cpu want to help. They stare at the driver but either do nothing or respond too late. This has to be patched because I can’t play the game. I have yet to play a full game because it’s just not fun or challenging at all. The defense is some of the worst **** I ever witnessed.

2k please just program the cpu to react to a driver of the basketball. I rather the cpu ignore a shooter than letting dunks and layups at will with no resistance smh
Have you tried the last resort - raising all players' HelpD IQ attribute to 99?
This helped A LOT in 2k20 for me... but raised some other issues, which may not bother you since you actually play the game. I only watch the CPU vs CPU.
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