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  • f3r
    Rookie
    • Jul 2021
    • 36

    #1

    why so many blocks from behind?

    someone could explain me why is more usually get a block from behind than get a layup?
    someting related to configuration?
    can i do something to avoid this?
  • Smallville102001
    All Star
    • Mar 2015
    • 6542

    #2
    Re: why so many blocks from behind?

    On default blocks are just way over powerful including blocks from behind. Need to turn blocks slider down.

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    • jeebs9
      Fear is the Unknown
      • Oct 2008
      • 47564

      #3
      Re: why so many blocks from behind?

      I've been ok with every block that has happen to me.
      Hands Down....Man Down - 2k9 memories
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      • kwabalicious
        Pro
        • Aug 2009
        • 639

        #4
        Re: why so many blocks from behind?

        Have to make up for the game having no help defense

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        • tru11
          MVP
          • Aug 2010
          • 1816

          #5
          Re: why so many blocks from behind?

          Originally posted by jeebs9
          I've been ok with every block that has happen to me.


          Yeah same here.

          Most of the time that i get blocked its either me playing 1 on 5 cause my whole team quit and even if i fake 2 out there are 3 more jumping lol.

          Or its the damm pump fake not being a pump fake


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          • KM1991UK
            Rookie
            • Apr 2020
            • 84

            #6
            Re: why so many blocks from behind?

            ...because the game is broke. And has been since it was released. Everything is arcadey and almost everything is animation based. “Best 2K in years” lol!

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            • keshunleon
              MVP
              • Apr 2006
              • 2111

              #7
              Re: why so many blocks from behind?

              Rotation blocks are great!

              Going into the paint with 2/3 defenders around is normally a block or steal.
              In the past 2Ks off defenders just stood around but now helps defenders are active.
              True bout my business, Mane!

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              • keshunleon
                MVP
                • Apr 2006
                • 2111

                #8
                Re: why so many blocks from behind?

                Originally posted by KM1991UK
                ...because the game is broke. And has been since it was released. Everything is arcadey and almost everything is animation based. “Best 2K in years” lol!
                Broke in what way?

                Other than the speed being capped this the closest SIM game in possibly a decade.
                True bout my business, Mane!

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                • The 24th Letter
                  ERA
                  • Oct 2007
                  • 39373

                  #9
                  Re: why so many blocks from behind?

                  Originally posted by keshunleon
                  Broke in what way?



                  Other than the speed being capped this the closest SIM game in possibly a decade.
                  Don't engage- he just pops in to do this shtick occasionally...did the same last year...

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                  • KM1991UK
                    Rookie
                    • Apr 2020
                    • 84

                    #10
                    Re: why so many blocks from behind?

                    Lol, damn, this is Sim!?

                    This is one of the lowest skill 2K games since I remember. Shooting whites? No problem, we’ll give it to you. Spamming square on defence? No worries, we’ll trigger an animation and give it to you. Beaten on the drive to the rim? No worries, we’ll trigger an unrealistic chasedown animation (even though the defender & help D is clearly beaten) and give you the block. Want to spam dribble for 20 seconds? No worries, we’ll let you dribble until you finally get the animation needed to create separation and you won’t be penalised by having significantly lower attributes due to low stamina. We have a game where it’s easier to shoot 3s than to finish under the basket and people going on about sim! LOL

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                    • Crossover1
                      MVP
                      • Feb 2009
                      • 1925

                      #11
                      Re: why so many blocks from behind?

                      For people saying the blocks are fine, y'all are crazy lol. I have had insane recovery times on my end where I block someone I had no business blocking and the same done to me.

                      My issue with 2K over the years is that they can never find a good balance on game sliders and mechanics. Shooting is always too high (2K22) or too low (2K21) most years. The last time 2K had decent shooting sliders were in 2K16. Fast break animations have always been an issue with the slowdown/hitch animation when receiving a pass, allowing defenders to catch up. For all the "we've made every player unique" talk, I struggle to understand where the differences are outside of large ratings gap and animation packages.

                      Despite all that, this game has the potential to be the best 2K ever, or at least in quite some time, but the direction of the franchise has severely shifted since when I first started playing 2K8. Even that game wasn't much of a sim, but it was due to limitations of tech and the times. Now they have way more tools to be a simulation game and they intentionally choose to go a different route because of their parent company's need for huge profits.
                      Last edited by Crossover1; 10-18-2021, 11:27 AM.
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                      • kwabalicious
                        Pro
                        • Aug 2009
                        • 639

                        #12
                        Re: why so many blocks from behind?

                        Yeah lol the chasedown blocks are not fine.

                        In the NBA, once you get beat going toward the rim, it's pretty much over. The ballhandler will lay the ball right over the basket or straight to the backboard, and will shield off the defender if needed.

                        In 2k, the offensive player beats the defender, and if the block animation gets triggered, the offensive player won't even get close to the basket to try to score; they'll throw up some junk 5 feet away from the hoop and let the defender recover and send their **** back to the other direction.

                        This DOES NOT HAPPEN in the NBA, where it's basically a race to the front of the rim/backboard once the defender is beat. Chasedown blocks are very rare in the NBA unless there is another defender in front of the offensive player to make their shot-path less conventional and their shot-timing more predictable.

                        What 2k really needs to do is introduce help defense into their game. If you don't want to give up an easy layup once you get beat, send help to contest the shot and/or rotate until you're able to reset your defense. That's what happens when you get beat in actual basketball, and it creates almost all the ball-movement and basketball actions that are displayed in NBA basketball.

                        And unfortunately if 2k doesn't want to emulate real help defense, then we get chasedown blocks and rim protection that don't make physical sense.
                        Last edited by kwabalicious; 10-18-2021, 11:24 AM.

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                        • AIRJ23
                          MVP
                          • Apr 2021
                          • 2804

                          #13
                          Re: why so many blocks from behind?

                          Only reason I won’t complain is because 2K’s help defense and overall defensive logic is so screwed up, this is their bandaid to make the defense hard to beat and intense. It’s completely unrealistic and way off base but it’s better than 2K21 letting us score at will. Sucks that 2K won’t apply actual high IQ help defense therefore they just spam us with crazy blocks and off ball hugging and such. But hey, it’s better than nothing I guess. That’s how low the bar is.

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                          • The 24th Letter
                            ERA
                            • Oct 2007
                            • 39373

                            #14
                            Re: why so many blocks from behind?

                            I think people need to understand that the "higher ups" care so much less about what happens in the actual games than they think they do. They do not care about your afternoon Play Now game against the Wizards. They aren't in the board room talking chasedown blocks, lol

                            Sometimes, mechanics are just uneven and need to be ironed out. Sometimes they're uneven with a purpose of balance.

                            Blocks are definitely OP in some aspects, but it's nice to have an OP mechanic on the other side of the ball for once. The fear of them actually promote doing something other than rim running.

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                            • Crossover1
                              MVP
                              • Feb 2009
                              • 1925

                              #15
                              Re: why so many blocks from behind?

                              Originally posted by The 24th Letter
                              I think people need to understand that the "higher ups" care so much less about what happens in the actual games than they think they do. They do not care about your afternoon Play Now game against the Wizards. They aren't in the board room talking chasedown blocks, lol

                              Sometimes, mechanics are just uneven and need to be ironed out. Sometimes they're uneven with a purpose of balance.

                              Blocks are definitely OP in some aspects, but it's nice to have an OP mechanic on the other side of the ball for once. The fear of them actually promote doing something other than rim running.

                              Sent from my SM-G781U using Tapatalk
                              Yeah I get it. Suits aren't even as knowledgeable as us when it comes to those technical details, but I'm willing to bet they are saying stuff along the lines of "the sim market are a minority, make it more accessible, we want to see a larger player base; make the entire game more like MyCareer or whatever they call it these days since that drives the most revenue".
                              'Only The Strong Survive'

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