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Old 11-20-2021, 01:49 AM   #17
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Funny. The Limited game mode in MyTeam is proving that these bums can't play without the 5-out offense. For reference, in the Limited game mode, you have to build your weekly 13-man roster based on certain restrictions. This week, you can't use any players with a 3PT rating above 75.

You can only imagine how my opponents are falling apart on offense.

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Old 11-20-2021, 02:54 PM   #18
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Funny. The Limited game mode in MyTeam is proving that these bums can't play without the 5-out offense. For reference, in the Limited game mode, you have to build your weekly 13-man roster based on certain restrictions. This week, you can't use any players with a 3PT rating above 75.

You can only imagine how my opponents are falling apart on offense.

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Which is why I never will get into My Team. I like playing with rule teams because of the strength vs Weakness for each team. Even the best rated team in real life has weakness (injuries, shooting, size).

Anytime I see a user pick what someone would call a bad time (rockets, Pistons, Pelicans, and Magic). I know I'm in for a good game. I'm not going to see garbage we see (zigzag, 5 Out, no subs and others)
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Old 11-20-2021, 06:49 PM   #19
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Which is why I never will get into My Team. I like playing with rule teams because of the strength vs Weakness for each team. Even the best rated team in real life has weakness (injuries, shooting, size).

Anytime I see a user pick what someone would call a bad time (rockets, Pistons, Pelicans, and Magic). I know I'm in for a good game. I'm not going to see garbage we see (zigzag, 5 Out, no subs and others)
My point is that if the game was fundamentally realistic with shooting percentages when it came three-pointers, people will actually and genuinely would not know how to play this game. In short, they wouldn't know how to play real basketball.

I'm still making my fair share of three-point shots, but I'm not shooting at a 90% clip and neither is my opponent. The restriction this week makes me realize how many people don't know or understand basic mid-range shooting or post moves. It's pathetic right now.

It's the high three-point shooting percentages despite what the defense do that makes the 5-out offense so powerful.
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Old 11-20-2021, 07:24 PM   #20
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My point is that if the game was fundamentally realistic with shooting percentages when it came three-pointers, people will actually and genuinely would not know how to play this game. In short, they wouldn't know how to play real basketball.

I'm still making my fair share of three-point shots, but I'm not shooting at a 90% clip and neither is my opponent. The restriction this week makes me realize how many people don't know or understand basic mid-range shooting or post moves. It's pathetic right now.

It's the high three-point shooting percentages despite what the defense do that makes the 5-out offense so powerful.
It's the controlling factor for all of the gameplay design and implementation now which dooms online play to always be about mechanics/AI/animation exploitation and not real basketball strategy.
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My point is that if the game was fundamentally realistic with shooting percentages when it came three-pointers, people will actually and genuinely would not know how to play this game. In short, they wouldn't know how to play real basketball.

I'm still making my fair share of three-point shots, but I'm not shooting at a 90% clip and neither is my opponent. The restriction this week makes me realize how many people don't know or understand basic mid-range shooting or post moves. It's pathetic right now.

It's the high three-point shooting percentages despite what the defense do that makes the 5-out offense so powerful.
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It's the controlling factor for all of the gameplay design and implementation now which dooms online play to always be about mechanics/AI/animation exploitation and not real basketball strategy.
Got it.... I see what your saying now.
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Old 11-20-2021, 09:09 PM   #22
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It's the controlling factor for all of the gameplay design and implementation now which dooms online play to always be about mechanics/AI/animation exploitation and not real basketball strategy.
Man, for real! Playing that mode without the fear of 3's been automatic makes with just a sliver of light was eye opening.

What's also wild to me is people in Reddit calling it the "worse" week thus far this year. Goes to show that if they ever made a game with realistic shooting percentages under the correct context, people would lose their minds.
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Old 11-29-2021, 06:07 PM   #23
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For competitive players the only point is to win so exploiting game mechanics is the logical thing to do. I blame dev teams for allowing success to be had in games with minimal knowledge of the fundamentals of a sport. Competitive players will never change unless forced to, never.
I agree in regards to kids but personally i changed as i grew. Im competitive. I want to challenge myself and my opponent as well as enjoy the game, just like u think of cp3 and his low blows; some people will do anything, but as they mature, they usually change despite not losing their competitive fire. But yea hs/early college age it was whatever. I might have gone in without that mindset but once people put the cheese on you and you realize hey i can do that better, its ovaa.

But yea winnin aint enough anymore to drive me. Once u win enough u develop a kind of security about winning and just laugh at peoples exploits. Well mostly haha when youre not pulling out your hair. Doing the same thing over and over isnt enough for people who been playin the game forever.

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Old 11-30-2021, 01:33 PM   #24
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And comments like this is EXACTLY why people think it's "real life". No, they don't hunt the slow-footed center on EVERY SINGLE possession, otherwise the only person who would be scoring would be the one attacking the slow-footer center on every single possession.

I've was playing basketball since 5th grade, and I have NEVER played for a coach who he told 3 of us to sit outside the 3PT line, watch the PnR action between the PF/C and PG, and being ready to catch and shoot. NEVER. NEVER. NEVER. NEVER.

Even when I was that C/PF guarding the pick and roll, I have NEVER met a player who shot 80+% behind a screen. NEVER. NEVER. NEVER. I have NEVER met a player who was able to get to the bucket 95% of the time after a screen. NEVER. NEVER. NEVER. I got a bad back and bum knee, and I can still guard the PnR where it's no where near as successful as what happens in NBA 2K.

I can change my settings respectively and defend it, but every fricking game no matter what mode I'm playing??? Really??? Bums really don't know ANY other offense other the PnR???
Have you ever watched the James Harden rockets? And you guys will better off when you understand that Czar CAN NOT make a game that is going to be cheese proof. Thousands of ppl put in thousands of hours finding ways to exploit the game

Also watched the Hornets ABUSE Vucevic last night, Just kept going at him play after play in iso and pnr until the bulls sat him lol

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