Last I Checked, The League is Shooting 37% on Wide Open 3s

[Real2KInsider]

Quote: Originally Posted by Bahnzo

Except this isn't Street Fighter, or Call of Duty. It's supposed to be a sports simulation (I guess we can split hairs on the simulation aspect)

It's a video game. NBA 2K is as much a sports simulation as Call of Duty is a war simulator, or Street Fighter an anime combat simulator.

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And in sports there is an amount of luck.

Yes, but the DEGREE of luck is the issue.

Luck is largely absent from good video game design, ESPECIALLY mechanically.

Luck creates tension and takes away control from the player. In a game where they are clearly trying to give the player control, every jumpshot shouldn't feel like a casino slot machine.

Additionally, NBA players only shoot 37% when "open" because defenses, game atmospheres, the caliber of the shooter, and all the other human variables, etc, are VASTLY more intense than they are in NBA 2K. Anyone focused on that number is looking solely at the result and not the process.

(Which, again, the variance of which is typically reduced over a greater passage of time than what 2K is asking of players).

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I guess it comes down to what people want. And unfortunately(IMO) too many people think they are being punished if they do everything right and still don't get a score (or prevent one).

I think there is a wide gap between the number of players who ARE "doing everything right" and the number of players who THINK they are.

The latter group is the one paying the bills at the end of the day.

[ksuttonjr76]

Quote: Originally Posted by Real2KInsider

I think there is a wide gap between the number of players who ARE "doing everything right" and the number of players who THINK they are. The latter group is the one paying the bills at the end of the day.

Quoted for truth.

Especially the last sentence. The "sim" crowd will never generate the amount of money/revenue that the "want to be great at everything" crowd can.

[lemarflacco]

Online play throws everything into wack. I can't imagine shooting 37% on open threes against an opponent. Im sure everyone would just pack the paint in this scenario making it impossible to drive.

[ksuttonjr76]

Quote: Originally Posted by lemarflacco

Online play throws everything into wack. I can't imagine shooting 37% on open threes against an opponent. Im sure everyone would just pack the paint in this scenario making it impossible to drive.

Not really. 37% is still really a respectable 3PT shooting percentage. Since basketball videogames typically have higher percentages, that 37% would be closer to 40% if anything. The key to winning a basketball is still the same no matter what. The key is having more points than your opponent when the game clock ends. You win the game whether the score is 30 to 25 or 90 to 60.

The current gamer really believes that the key to winning is burying your opponents under a barrage of 3's which is the reason why a LOT of them don't have a Plan A, B, C, or D when they can't knock down 3's. The problem that we're running into is that NBA 2K made the 3PT shot TOO easy to convert, so the game becomes exactly what these current gamers think basketball is...shooting nothing, but 3's. Packing the paint is not a difficult defense to play against if you know and understand other scoring aspects of basketball.

Do you think my 70% winning percentage in NBA 2K11 was because I only knew how to shoot 3's?

[The 24th Letter]

I personally wouldn’t want to play any type H2H with a percentage cap…If that makes me non-sim I can live with it.

It’d be like playing Madden with the running backs capped at their yard per carry or QB’s tied to their throwing percentage.

There’s a reason the “rubber-banding” discussion hasn’t happened this year….it’s something all sides of the crowd has discussed for years now…

I see the high % on 3’s as something that could be solved in a better way….but that’s another topic

[Bahnzo]

Quote: Originally Posted by lemarflacco

Online play throws everything into wack. I can't imagine shooting 37% on open threes against an opponent. Im sure everyone would just pack the paint in this scenario making it impossible to drive.

If only YOU shot 37% while your opponents shot 90%, then that would be a problem.

And right now, the paint *is* packed...basically. With how easy blocks are, the inside game is seemingly dead, even with the 5 Out offenses. Any big man who can't shoot the three is considered useless online as well. Try to do any sort of backdown with a hook or fade and it'll be swatted right out of the arena.

[Bahnzo]

Quote: Originally Posted by The 24th Letter

I personally wouldn’t want to play any type H2H with a percentage cap…If that makes me non-sim I can live with it. I see the high % on 3’s as something that could be solved in a better way….but that’s another topic

I don't think anyone wants to see it capped either, but the way it's become now is equally as bad I think.

Go ahead and give us how you'd solve it. This is a discussion forum after all.

[loso_34]

Bring back shot aiming! Slashing hasn’t been the same since.