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  • ibrampton
    Rookie
    • May 2012
    • 185

    #1

    Help: how to play two low post big men at the same time? Ala Spurs & 09 Lakers

    Hi everyone,

    I’m looking for help how to play with 2 low post and close range big men. Similar to how the Lakers in 08-12 had Gasol and Bynum on the court at the same time for about 20-30 minutes. Also like the Spurs with Robinson and Duncan.

    Each time I try anything, automatically one of the big men stand in the corner behind the 3point line or somewhere else but behind the 3point line.

    Is there any playbook, freelance and series that you know for a fact will fix this? I’ve tried a hundred different combos and frankly speaking I’ve lost track of what combinations they were.

    I even touched some of the tendencies but still come up with a big man trying to space and stretch the floor.

    Please help this old head… I’m trying to create a couple retro season rosters for everyone to play around with.
  • Cowboyfan_19
    Pro
    • Jan 2015
    • 724

    #2
    Re: Help: how to play two low post big men at the same time? Ala Spurs & 09 Lakers

    Good luck being competitive with 2 bigs that can't shoot. The animations in this game do not favor close-mid range at all.

    To answer your question, the triangle offense should theoretically be a solid 3 out 2 in offense, but the game clumps everyone way too close with dragged out animations that I've given up on it.

    Try to get your guards open on creative looks for 3 through off ball screens with your bigs. You can even have your big post up, and look for off ball screen 3s that way. I don't like the amount of time it takes for all that to set up as opposed to the easy 5 out camp in the corner offense, but it's not going to be easy running a good offense, especially vs someone that just sits in the paint.

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    • bigrice25
      Rookie
      • Jul 2006
      • 256

      #3
      Re: Help: how to play two low post big men at the same time? Ala Spurs & 09 Lakers

      3 out active ( i think this is the name of the freelance). the two post players stay on the block, has some decent branches with the big men setting pin down screens for the wings.

      and some decent movement once the ball goes in the post.

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      • dvir10
        Pro
        • Jul 2009
        • 502

        #4
        Re: Help: how to play two low post big men at the same time? Ala Spurs & 09 Lakers

        Originally posted by ibrampton
        Hi everyone,

        I’m looking for help how to play with 2 low post and close range big men. Similar to how the Lakers in 08-12 had Gasol and Bynum on the court at the same time for about 20-30 minutes. Also like the Spurs with Robinson and Duncan.

        Each time I try anything, automatically one of the big men stand in the corner behind the 3point line or somewhere else but behind the 3point line.

        Is there any playbook, freelance and series that you know for a fact will fix this? I’ve tried a hundred different combos and frankly speaking I’ve lost track of what combinations they were.

        I even touched some of the tendencies but still come up with a big man trying to space and stretch the floor.

        Please help this old head… I’m trying to create a couple retro season rosters for everyone to play around with.
        I hear you brother... seeing players like Mourning, Z-Bo and duncan (controlled by CPU) Getting screens, run beyond the arc and then playing the p&r as ball handlers is driving me crazy!!!!!
        Example:

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        • ibrampton
          Rookie
          • May 2012
          • 185

          #5
          Re: Help: how to play two low post big men at the same time? Ala Spurs & 09 Lakers

          Originally posted by dvir10
          I hear you brother... seeing players like Mourning, Z-Bo and duncan (controlled by CPU) Getting screens, run beyond the arc and then playing the p&r as ball handlers is driving me crazy!!!!!
          Example:
          https://youtu.be/ofHa3WGWoAc

          YES! This!!! I just left comment under your video. This is a prime example of the issue I have as well.

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          • dvir10
            Pro
            • Jul 2009
            • 502

            #6
            Re: Help: how to play two low post big men at the same time? Ala Spurs & 09 Lakers

            Originally posted by ibrampton
            YES! This!!! I just left comment under your video. This is a prime example of the issue I have as well.
            yeah i just saw...

            downloaded NBA 2K14 with mods and the Ultimate roster where you can play which season that you like.
            gameplay is great! every player really plays like himself! (personally i really enjoyed the mid 2000's to the middle of 2010's era)

            i have played every 2K game that came out (including NBA Action 98), I seriously consider to skip 2K23 because of showing no love to the offline sim gamer, no love for the historic teams such as playstyles and even not giving us control so at least we can make them play like themselves.

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            • VictorMG
              Pro
              • Jul 2021
              • 678

              #7
              Re: Help: how to play two low post big men at the same time? Ala Spurs & 09 Lakers

              Originally posted by dvir10
              not giving us control so at least we can make them play like themselves.
              2K gives us more control to change how teams play than any sports game franchise that I know of. You just have to edit tendencies or find a roster made by someone who has.

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              • dvir10
                Pro
                • Jul 2009
                • 502

                #8
                Re: Help: how to play two low post big men at the same time? Ala Spurs & 09 Lakers

                Originally posted by VictorMG
                2K gives us more control to change how teams play than any sports game franchise that I know of. You just have to edit tendencies or find a roster made by someone who has.
                First, I don’t compare to other sport titles.

                Second, in previous 2k games you had way more control for CPU play styles and actually mark which player you want him to be the go to guy, 2nd, 3rd and 4th option, also they were way more options in the roster creation menu.

                Third, you didn’t read the all conversation and didn’t watch the video that I put for the point that I was talking about.

                Fourth, I make rosters for 4 years in a row and I know exactly how they work. the subject of this thread has nothing to do with tendencies, it has to do with the F***** ACE and freelance series systems, so go other places to talk nonsense.
                Last edited by dvir10; 06-05-2022, 09:54 AM.

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                • VictorMG
                  Pro
                  • Jul 2021
                  • 678

                  #9
                  Re: Help: how to play two low post big men at the same time? Ala Spurs & 09 Lakers

                  Originally posted by dvir10
                  First, I don’t compare to other sport titles.

                  Second, in previous 2k games you had way more control for CPU play styles and actually mark which player you want him to be the go to guy, 2nd, 3rd and 4th option, also they were way more options in the roster creation menu.

                  Third, you didn’t read the all conversation and didn’t watch the video that I put for the point that I was talking about.

                  Fourth, I make rosters for 4 years in a row and I know exactly how they work. the subject of this thread has nothing to do with tendencies, it has to do with the F***** ACE and freelance series systems, so go other places to talk nonsense.
                  Yo, calm down... it's not that serious. I was just offering a suggestion. Relax.

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                  • The 24th Letter
                    ERA
                    • Oct 2007
                    • 39373

                    #10
                    Re: Help: how to play two low post big men at the same time? Ala Spurs & 09 Lakers

                    There are freelances that help with this, They work great. Some have already been suggested, like 3 out, 2 in….Have you tied those?

                    I use a lot of 2 big teams and I am able to run offense efficiently, even vs. humans.

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                    • dvir10
                      Pro
                      • Jul 2009
                      • 502

                      #11
                      Re: Help: how to play two low post big men at the same time? Ala Spurs & 09 Lakers

                      Originally posted by VictorMG
                      Yo, calm down... it's not that serious. I was just offering a suggestion. Relax.
                      Sorry man, I thought that you were one of those “wise guys”.
                      I apologize.

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                      • dvir10
                        Pro
                        • Jul 2009
                        • 502

                        #12
                        Re: Help: how to play two low post big men at the same time? Ala Spurs & 09 Lakers

                        Originally posted by The 24th Letter
                        There are freelances that help with this, They work great. Some have already been suggested, like 3 out, 2 in….Have you tied those?

                        I use a lot of 2 big teams and I am able to run offense efficiently, even vs. humans.
                        The big question for is how do I make the CPU playing this kind of offense?

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                        • The 24th Letter
                          ERA
                          • Oct 2007
                          • 39373

                          #13
                          Re: Help: how to play two low post big men at the same time? Ala Spurs & 09 Lakers

                          Originally posted by dvir10
                          The big question for is how do I make the CPU playing this kind of offense?

                          As far as I know you can’t change base freelances, I would assume the only way is to manually change it in their coach profiles…

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                          • ILLSmak
                            MVP
                            • Sep 2008
                            • 2397

                            #14
                            Re: Help: how to play two low post big men at the same time? Ala Spurs & 09 Lakers

                            You have to (just imo of course) get your bigs in the right position on the catch or move them to an effective spot. Players move (tho 2k did seem to cut down on random movement lol for some reason) based on where the ball is, and you wanna get like a high low. People get on me, but those big 2 big passes are still money if you do them right. Big to big oop is pretty strong, too.


                            Even in 5v5, you can win with two real bigs if they aren't trying to get in each other's space. You want the space where they can get 1v1, but also where they can get the other guy in a position to do something on the catch. If he has post play maker, use him as a hub for shooters.



                            Big bigs tho yea it's tough, 2 v 3 and all, but I don't think you should have much problem making shots. I'd say if you got a big in the corner, try to get that big the ball closer to around the high post in some of the 'money spots.' The idea would be to have a guy around 15 at one corner of the paint box or close and another guy on the other side of the rim. It doesn't matter if the guy out can't directly score cuz A. He can post into a shot and B. He has good passing angles as long as you are careful not to let 2k suck you into an auto turn over.



                            Those badges like Mouse really help big bigs, esp at pf. Like Pau 7 ft @ pf would be deadly in this game. Most people just don't wanna play that way, but if it's just you, then you should be OK. Don't forget your bigs are strong on picks and your other guys are there, too, but they should be able to get their buckets.



                            -Smak

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                            • AIRJ23
                              MVP
                              • Apr 2021
                              • 2804

                              #15
                              Re: Help: how to play two low post big men at the same time? Ala Spurs & 09 Lakers

                              Thank you. Having Rodman park at the three point line drives me nuts. 5 out ain’t true basketball to me anyway. Way prefer variety, which 3-4 out brings. Why below average shooting 7 footers park at the deep perimeter is beyond me.

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