The Purist(s) NBA 2K11 Sliders (Post-Patch)

[greenieblue]

Quote: Originally Posted by Anmino

Two Thumbs up with these slider. Good job

Thanks, dude.

I nearly lost my mind. So, it's good to hear that.

[greenieblue]

Quote: Originally Posted by greenieblue

v 1.4: page 1. updated 12/13.

Two quick things:

- not sure about shooting fouls setting, adjust as you see fit
- not 100% on Inside, Layup & Contact.

[Anmino]

Quote: Originally Posted by greenieblue

Backstory here: http://www.operationsports.com/forum...o-v-0-1-a.html Special thanks to: The 2k Devs (I'm just the janitor repositioning the lights on Guernica) Armor & Sword (various things) Ace23 (On-Ball Steals!) jeffc1 (Real FG%) Ewing (Running Consultant) Adwen (Slider Consultant) AirandFlash (Pass Acc!) PuntNL (Infected like me w/ Slideritus) supadupa (Gametrack info) Tomba (Old Slider Info Helpful) Everyone who posted feedback Everyone who helped in other threads Everyone who has shown interest Everyone who was cool Everyone I forgot The Mods (for not banning or carding me!) The Edit button!! The Em Dash The Comma The Parentheses O.K., I'll stop. And lastly, Cesco for testing the hell out of every iteration of the set. As I said, he is at least half-responsible for these sliders-- read through the other thread and this is obvious. And there is much of his contribution that never saw the forums. So, thanks man. We made it! Lol. Send me the blame, him the praise. Known Issues - Shooting fouls are inconsistent - You probably shouldn't attempt on-ball steals - You might have to police your block attempts - 3pt Success slider might need to be adjusted - High Steal Totals (on purpose because of the minimal amount of non-steal turnovers) - Offensive Rebounds inconsistent (a game issue) - Team Fouls low (not many non-shooting fouls, game issue) - Passing Accuracy Issues (trying to squeeze out as many non-steal turnovers as possible while remaining sane) The Purist(s) NBA 2K11 Post-Patch Sliders v. 1.4 (updated 12/13/10) All Slider Settings Are For Both HUM/CPU Changes from the original set beside the number in parentheses: 58 original set/54 updated set, number beside in parentheses (-4). You can ignore these numbers and just input the number closest to the slider name, unless you want to return to the original set. Gameplay Difficulty: Pro Game Style: Custom Game Speed: 50 Player Speed: 44 Quarter Length: 12 minutes Fatigue: On Player Energy: On Injuries: On Clutch Factor: On Shooting Type: Real Player % FT Shooting Type: Real Player % Free Throw Difficulty: 25 Game Sliders Offense Inside Shot Success: 44 (-2) Close Shot Success: 50 Mid-Range Success: 50 (-2) 3PT Success: 53 (-1) Layup Success: 43 (-4) Dunk Success: 50 (+2) Dunk in Traffic Success: 50 (+5) Pass Accuracy: 44 (+1) Alley-Oop Success: 45 (+1) Contact Shot Success: 43 (-2) Defense Driving Contact Shot Frequency: 74 (-6) Inside Contact Shot Frequency: 78 (-4) Help Defense Strength: 88 Steal Success: 66 (-1) Attributes Quickness: 39 Vertical: 49 Strength: 51 Stamina: 67 Durability: 52 (+1) Hustle: 94 Ball Handling: 61 (+7) Hands: 78 (-2) Dunking Ability: 37 On-Ball Defense: 51 (-2) Stealing: 58 (-2) Blocking: 58 (-6) Offensive Awareness: 75 (+2) Defensive Awareness: 68 Offensive Rebounding: 100 Defensive Rebounding: 0 (-7) Clutch Factor: 1 (+1) Consistency: 47 (+1) Fatigue Rate: 36 Injury Frequency: 51 Injury Severity: 49 Tendencies Take Inside Shots: 85 (+5) Take Close Shots: 45 (-5) Take Mid-Range Shots: 56 (-5) Take 3PT Shots: 49 (-5) Attack the Basket: 67 (+6) Look for Post Players: 65 (+1) Throw Alley Oops: 55 (+5) Attempt Dunks: 16 (+5) Attempt Putbacks: 100 Throw Flashy Passes: 61 Commit Fouls: 100 Play Passing Lanes: 57 Go for On-Ball Steals: 100 Contest Shots: 100 Backdoor Cuts: 81 Fouls Over the Back Foul Frequency: 100 Charging Foul Frequency: 100 Blocking Foul Frequency: 100 Reaching Foul Frequency: 100 (+6) Shooting Foul Frequency: 68 (+3) Loose Ball Foul Frequency: 100 Presentation Commentary Vol: 100 PA Vol: 80 Sound Effects Vol: 60 Crowd Vol: 50 Player Chatter Vol: 60 2K Beats In-Game Music Vol: 0 2K Beats Menu Music Vol: 20 Action Replays: Occasionally After Basket Camera Cuts: Often Ball Handler Text: Name & Position Free Throw Help: Off Free Throw Routines: On Jump Shot Feedback: Off NBA Rules All On Coach Settings Coach Mode: Off Timeout: Manual Substitution: Manual Substitution Method: Rotation PlayVision: All Plays PlayVision Display: Full Playcall Messages: User Plays Only Offense Playcalling: Auto Defense Playcalling: Manual Late Game Fouling: Manual Controller Settings Preferred Position: None Shot Stick: Camera Relative Passing Icons: On Icon Lead Passing: On Total Control Passing: On Right Stick Passing: On Right Stick Defense: Camera Relative Defensive Icons: On Who To Guard: On Defensive Assist Strength: 0 Camera Broadcast Zoom: 3 Height: 8 Rev Angle: Off Soundtrack Turn off all, except: NBA 2k11 Theme Shutterbug Over Skeleton Dance Champion I Can Talk Home of the Brave Game Time Deli The Alan Parsons Project Go Hard or Go Home Red Rollerskates (I'm kidding, of course)

What does (+) and (-) means in these slider? I will add and deduct from the original one? But how about those data has already 100 but you encoded 100(+6)? Sorry, Im just confused with these.

[greenieblue]

How I arrived at 1.4

I ran 10 CPU v. CPU quarters (thus, 20 different teams & at least 100 different players) and hand tracked FGM/FGA by location on the floor. It is hard to tell if one click would result in +10 boost to FG% or +5, etc. But since I have run a few of these tests on a number of different settings, I'm quite confident in the settings for Close and Mid. 3pt is easy to track since the game does it for you. So, no new info there.

Inside, Layup, Dunk, DIT, Contact are trickier. For one, teams averaged about 2-4 "and 1's" a game last year. So contact shot cannot really be high. At the previous setting, it was too high-- i.e. there were too many conversions on fouls. So that had to be dropped. Layups seem almost indestructible. But it is not quite clear what 2k calls a layup and what they call an inside shot. 4 of the 5 seem redundant to me (that is: Inside, Layup, Dunk, DIT). Inside seems like it only refers to post-ups that go deep enough to enter the charge circle. But, what you are looking for here is 61%, not 100%. So, since layups are almost always successful (and very hard to tune as a result), and dunks should be almost always successful, the majority of misses have to come on Inside shots.

I'm still not happy with this, but the only way to finish them off is to play. So I will.

Another note:

NBA teams averaged 46% FG% last year.

They averaged 44% in what 2k11 calls close.

39% in what 2k11 calls mid.

35% in threes.

So how is that possible, or why is your FG% too low?

They shot 61% on dunks, layups and putbacks.

It is extremely hard (short of editing the entire leagues tendencies) to make the computer live inside (27 shots a game in 09-10) like they do in the NBA. 2k11 player tendencies just LOVE mid-range jumpers. So FG% should and will probably be low for the computer. You can control your own FG% by getting to hoop.

[greenieblue]

Quote: Originally Posted by Anmino

What does (+) and (-) means in these slider? I will add and deduct from the original one? But how about those data has already 100 but you encoded 100(+6)? Sorry, Im just confused with these.

Just ignore the numbers in parentheses.

They are mostly to remind me (and anyone else who cares) what the original (v. 1.0) slider settings were. It's also to indicate where I've made changes to people who are using an old set.

In other words, if it says 100 (+6), the original purist set had that slider at 94 but I now recommend 100.

[Anmino]

Quote: Originally Posted by greenieblue

Just ignore the numbers in parentheses. They are mostly to remind me (and anyone else who cares) what the original (v. 1.0) slider settings were. It's also to indicate where I've made changes to people who are using an old set. In other words, if it says 100 (+6), the original purist set had that slider at 94 but I now recommend 100.

Ah I see. Okay then. Is these slider is applicable for PC platform?

[greenieblue]

Quote: Originally Posted by Anmino

Ah I see. Okay then. Is these slider is applicable for PC platform?

Hmm. Honestly, I don't know. It was developed and tested post-patch.

Give it a shot.

[Anmino]

Quote: Originally Posted by greenieblue

Hmm. Honestly, I don't know. It was developed and tested post-patch. Give it a shot.

Thanks. lol. You reply so fast. Anyway, I'm playing at the moment. And it seems good. But I need to try more games in my Association, because I'm planning to make AGAIN another Association.
I'm really newbie here. I think this is my 5th or 6th post/comment in the forum.