What's good about controlling all 30 teams in Association?

[kenzil]

What are your reasons for why this is a great feature?

I am not sure. I primarily play offline in association with this game but I am not sure why this woud be a good feaature. Seems like it would be too much to do and you would never get through one season.

[DC]

Re: What's good about controlling all 30 teams in Association?

Did you read the article from Game Informer? They explain why there.

[portlandblazer]

Re: What's good about controlling all 30 teams in Association?

some people might want to play through the season as games happen in real life. i personally make trades in my association that happen in real life and this would make it so much easier, rather than doing 3 team trades and trading back and forth til you get the trade right. however having to sim every game for the other 29 teams might be just as tedious.

[kenzil]

Re: What's good about controlling all 30 teams in Association?

Did you read the article from Game Informer? They explain why there.

some people might want to play through the season as games happen in real life. i personally make trades in my association that happen in real life and this would make it so much easier, rather than doing 3 team trades and trading back and forth til you get the trade right. however having to sim every game for the other 29 teams might be just as tedious.

Yeah, I read it after I posted this but...still not sold on it...In 2k9 association, you could resign and control any other team and make trades. This with the combination of 'alllow cpu trades' set to off allowed me to 'control' all 30 teams.

Am I missing the benefits of this?

I agree with you portlandblazer, I see it more as tedious when having to 'sim' all the other games....

[ctu130]

Re: What's good about controlling all 30 teams in Association?

I imagine in 2k10 that it would be way quicker and simpler than doing the method you stated for 2k9

[stewaat]

Re: What's good about controlling all 30 teams in Association?

I for one love this ability for several reasons:

#1- The NBA Draft. When I get to the offseason I'm going to draft the best player for each team, I don't have to worry about the T-Wolves getting another PG.
#2- Free Agency. I can sign guys that make sense for all the teams. Last year the Trail Blazers had a bunch of cap space and would always sign Steve Nash and Carlos Boozer after Season 1...which wasn't what I wanted to see.
#3- I can make trades based on what is going on in my Association. Let's say the Clips are having a bad year in Season 1 of my association. There are some solid PG prospects in the upcoming draft and Baron Davis is not getting any younger. I can look for a playoff team who needs a veteran PG in exchange for a young player with promise. Basically I can rebuild team and gear others up for a playoff run.
#4- Lineups. I can look at teams and give people the minutes I think they should get. I can also prevent jj redick from ever taking another shot in the NBA, which I am going to enjoy very much.
#5- Coaching carousel. It's not too in depth, but this year they are supposed to have assistant coaches if I've read things right. NBA coaches are in & out faster than any other major sport, so this should be fun.

I could think of more, but five should be enough to suffice for now.

Bottom line: if you are a one season player, I don't really see what's so great. I don't get the obsession with making all the real life trades and transactions...isn't that what the real life NBA is for? Isn't your season supposed to follow your own path? If you play multiple seasons like myself, I see HUGE value.


*Disclaimer - I play 29-game seasons because it doesn't take away from the experience at all*

[DC]

Re: What's good about controlling all 30 teams in Association?

SO basically you are complaining about having the OPTION of doing something? You know you don't have to use this feature.

What is there to be sold on? You SEE and have READ why it needs to be an option, so what needs to be sold to you?

[DC]

Re: What's good about controlling all 30 teams in Association?

SO basically you are complaining about having the OPTION of doing something? You know you don't have to use this feature.

What is there to be sold on? You SEE and have READ why it needs to be an option, so what needs to be sold to you?

[Kaanyr Vhok]

Re: What's good about controlling all 30 teams in Association?

Bottom line: if you are a one season player, I don't really see what's so great. I don't get the obsession with making all the real life trades and transactions...isn't that what the real life NBA is for? Isn't your season supposed to follow your own path? If you play multiple seasons like myself, I see HUGE value.


*Disclaimer - I play 29-game seasons because it doesn't take away from the experience at all*

I see it the opposite. As a one season player I like having the ability to update the rosters so you get everything right and it mimics that one real NBA season. Its 82 games so you want it as sharp as possible. In games like CH 2k8 where I play multiple seasons I tend to lose myself in the artificiality of it whereas in NBA 2k9 facing Iverson's Pistons kinda killed the authenticity.

[stewaat]

Re: What's good about controlling all 30 teams in Association?

I was saying I just don't understand that. There's real life, then there's a video game. Two different worlds to me. I don't want my video game to have to follow suit with the real world.

Plus if you play one season you're locked into predetermined outcomes. For example, nobody in their right mind would have the Charlotte Bobcats winning the NBA Title in real life. If you play with the Bobcats in 2K10 and you win the NBA Title you completely destroy any shed of realism in the game. So if you choose Charlotte you already know you're going to more than likely be a bubble playoff team who gets knocked out in the first round. You might win a miracle first round matchup, but that's all.

That's why they give us all these options though!

[DC]

Re: What's good about controlling all 30 teams in Association?

Ok YOU don't want your games to follow suit with the real world, but why can't you understand and accept that other folks DO. JUst let them be instead of bashing a new feature because you have no use for it

[stewaat]

Re: What's good about controlling all 30 teams in Association?

WTF are you talking about, I said I don't get it, I never said it was stupid or dumb or bashed it. I fully accept it and stated that's why they put in these features. People like to play the game differently.

Relax

[kenzil]

Re: What's good about controlling all 30 teams in Association?

SO basically you are complaining about having the OPTION of doing something? You know you don't have to use this feature.

What is there to be sold on? You SEE and have READ why it needs to be an option, so what needs to be sold to you?

not complaining at all...sorry if it came across that way. I love that it is in the game and I just wanted to know how others will benefit because I felt I was missing something...stewaat's post before yours gave me additional perspectives and it makes much more sense now. I will probably control all 30 teams now having read that. I usually always play multiple seasons in association and get annoyed with the cpu transactions....having the option to do this will eliminate the dumb cpu decisions...

I guess I am still wishing the 'CPU transaction AI' could be better so that I could play as the GM of 1 team and not have to worry about other teams making stupid decisions.

But the option is there and I plan to take full advantage of it!

[aholbert32]

Re: What's good about controlling all 30 teams in Association?

LOL...This is like the 3rd thread I've had to write this explanation. I need to just write it in Word and save it.

Two reasons. One, I've always found playing with one team boring. I couldnt imagine playing 82 games or multiple seasons with the same team. I paid 60 bucks for the game and hate to be limited to only playing with one team. I like having the ability to play with the Lakers one day and then play with the Kings the next.

Two, I play along with the NBA season. So if a major trade is made, I do it in my season. The problem is with past versions of the game, I could only control 8 teams. So that meant I had to do a bunch of workarounds to get the right players on the right teams. Also, even after I made the trade I had to use a bunch of workarounds to make sure that the right players were starting on each team after the trade. Being able to control all 30 teams means that I can adjust rosters, starting lineups and playing time without having to jump through hoops.

[kenzil]

Re: What's good about controlling all 30 teams in Association?

LOL...This is like the 3rd thread I've had to write this explanation. I need to just write it in Word and save it.

Two reasons. One, I've always found playing with one team boring. I couldnt imagine playing 82 games or multiple seasons with the same team. I paid 60 bucks for the game and hate to be limited to only playing with one team. I like having the ability to play with the Lakers one day and then play with the Kings the next.

We could already play as any other team on 2k9 and then you could switch teams whenever you wanted by resigning....

Two, I play along with the NBA season. So if a major trade is made, I do it in my season. The problem is with past versions of the game, I could only control 8 teams. So that meant I had to do a bunch of workarounds to get the right players on the right teams. Also, even after I made the trade I had to use a bunch of workarounds to make sure that the right players were starting on each team after the trade. Being able to control all 30 teams means that I can adjust rosters, starting lineups and playing time without having to jump through hoops.

I will definitely make the major trades and enjoy being able to do this without the workarounds....however, for me, once my association gets going, I could be in year 3 and the 'real-life NBA season' has not even reached the 2010 playoffs yet. In other words, Shaq could be traded in real life but in my association, it could be the year 2012 and he could already be retired...but again, adjusting rosters, lineups, and playing time will be great because those of us that have gone far in the years of their association know that the CPU has some of the weirdest rosters and line ups.

As far as making the right draft pick for the teams, this is great as we know the cpu's draft choice's are horrible. Having full control over this is awesome.

BUT...I just wish the cpu A.I. would be smart so that when I am only the GM of the sixers and I have the 14th pick, there is a bit of a surprise as to who I will pick because a CPU controlled team may take the guy I wanted.

Believe me, I see the good in it and will more than likely use it but it
takes away the experience of being a GM...puts you almost like 'God of the NBA' because you control EVERYTHING.

Again, not complaining just getting others perspectives and sharing my own...