Injury rating - Bynum vs Oden

[astarr]

Oden played in 61 games last year. Missed the year before due to a surgery. He has a 25 durability rating.

Bynum played in 50 last year, 35 the year before, 82 the year before that and 46 in 05-06. Bynum has a 70 durability rating.

So funny how every one blows Oden up for his durability issues and no one cares about the fragility of Bynum.

Don't see how anyone who is objective can't see that Bynum is just as injury prone if not more than Oden.

I can tell you one thing, when I finally get a good roster set, Oden's durability is going up.

[Pandam00nium]

Re: Injury rating - Bynum vs Oden

Both of the injuries cause to Bynum, in the last two years, were from his own players falling on his leg. But let's just completely ignore that so your argument seems more legit.

[astarr]

Re: Injury rating - Bynum vs Oden

Oden's first injury was partially caused by Bynum pulling down on his shoulders and the traffic of Derek Fisher under his feet. His second injury was a chipped bone in his knee due to knocking knees with Corey Magette.

Guess for you it makes all the difference if the player making contact is wearing the same jersey. Regardless of the why, Bynum is injury prone.

[Pandam00nium]

Re: Injury rating - Bynum vs Oden

Oden's first injury was before the 2007-2008 season even started. He missed all of his rookie year without taking a single step on the court. Who are you going to blame that on?

[EvanRG]

Re: Injury rating - Bynum vs Oden

Are we losing things to argue over? Haha. Just raise and lower the ratings if you feel they are incorrect.

[astarr]

Re: Injury rating - Bynum vs Oden

Actually and truthfully, since no one has been clear as to what happened, I don't know who or what to blame it on.

You must be some myopic Laker fanboy or Oden ***** to take this so personal. My point is simply that the injury rating comparison between Oden and Bynum is unfair. Maybe there is a formula they base it on, I don't know.

The fact is with Oden's microscopic knee surgery is that it was a very minor one that they felt would be good to go ahead and get out of the way early in his career. I don't think that Oden's durability should be solely based on that one surgery. He played in about 70% of the games last year, I don't think he warrants a 25 for durability, when Bynum is a 70. If Bynum was a 30 or 40, I wouldn't mind as much, but to put him at a 70 and Oden at a 25 is hysterical.

Obviously you like to argue, so hope you are having a good time.

[astarr]

Re: Injury rating - Bynum vs Oden

Are we losing things to argue over? Haha. Just raise and lower the ratings if you feel they are incorrect.

Actually, I wasn't trying to argue. I guess I am partially wondering if it is like this throughout the roster and exactly how to approach durability issues. Obviously according to this person, if it is an injury involving your own player than it should be discounted. I think durability should be based on how many games you play, not whether you got injured by a player on your own team.

I am like anyone else, I check the ratings of my favorite team since I know them better than the other ones. Personally, I feel like Oden's injury problems are overstated. When it comes to him, nobody cares about the why. He was the first overall pick, over-hyped, and so he is unfairly criticized at times when it comes to how injury-prone he is, while other players get free passes.

[DakkoN]

Re: Injury rating - Bynum vs Oden

Go look at Gilbert Arenas' durability rating. It will blow your mind.

[EvanRG]

Re: Injury rating - Bynum vs Oden

Actually, I wasn't trying to argue. I guess I am partially wondering if it is like this throughout the roster and exactly how to approach durability issues. Obviously according to this person, if it is an injury involving your own player than it should be discounted. I think durability should be based on how many games you play, not whether you got injured by a player on your own team.

I am like anyone else, I check the ratings of my favorite team since I know them better than the other ones. Personally, I feel like Oden's injury problems are overstated. When it comes to him, nobody cares about the why. He was the first overall pick, over-hyped, and so he is unfairly criticized at times when it comes to how injury-prone he is, while other players get free passes.

I understand your point -- and as an OSU fan, I really would like Oden to see more significant progress this year.

That being said, he had wrist issues in college, missed his whole rookie year and has struggled with fluke injuries so I think his rating may be justified partially.

Again though, I would raise it if you feel like it would unfairly injure him through the season. Or you could tweak the injury severity slider just to ensure he doesn't miss the entire season with a torn mcl...

[ProjectRipCity]

Re: Injury rating - Bynum vs Oden

Finally somebody said it.

Oden = not the only young player that is injury prone. I guess Bynum doesnt get criticism because he wasnt the #1 pick (And wasnt stupidly compared to legends)

[Pandam00nium]

Re: Injury rating - Bynum vs Oden

You must be some myopic Laker fanboy or Oden ***** to take this so personal. My point is simply that the injury rating comparison between Oden and Bynum is unfair. Maybe there is a formula they base it on, I don't know.

Nice of you to go ahead and assume things. I guess by playing your game you'd be an Oden fanboy due to jumping on the Portland bandwagon when the Sonics left for OKC eh? See, I can make half assed assumptions too! You're the one who's butthurt over a simple thing like durability ratings. Neither of these players are on my favourite team, and to even set things straight. I don't even like the Lakers and I live in So. Cal. So who exactly is taking it personal?

I'd hate to break it to you, but all the ratings are "unfair". You have people complaining about overall ratings, how Melo doesn't even have his own dunk package, how Ariza is rated better than Battier in defense. But what does it matter? You have the option to change it yourself. This is 2K's opinion on player ratings. Not mine. Excuse me for calling out your bad example.

[astarr]

Re: Injury rating - Bynum vs Oden

You're the one who's butthurt over a simple thing like durability ratings. Neither of these players are on my favourite team, and to even set things straight. I don't even like the Lakers and I live in So. Cal. So who exactly is taking it personal?

I'd hate to break it to you, but all the ratings are "unfair". You have people complaining about overall ratings, how Melo doesn't even have his own dunk package, how Ariza is rated better than Battier in defense. But what does it matter? You have the option to change it yourself. This is 2K's opinion on player ratings. Not mine. Excuse me for calling out your bad example.

Butthurt? For discussing ratings in a new game? You must be 12. As far as people complaining about ratings, you will find there are some very talented people on this board who will fix the rosters. Neon did a great job last year and PortlandBlazer does a good job, as well. They have a lot of help. By pointing out faults in ratings and getting reaction, eventually it will be addressed and fixed.

I realize the fact that I have the option to change it myself, but I like perspective. These guys will come up with a fair formula for addressing various ratings and the game will be more playable for it.

Your opinion that I chose a bad example is a little boggling. Makes it sound like regardless of your supposed unattachment to the Lakers, you simply ignore historical statistics. Therefore, I don't respect your opinion. I only replied to you because you took the time to respond to a Post that I started.