Jump Shooting is DIFFICULT!!

[Fistpick]

Hopefully some of the super sim vets can help me out... First of all, I know how to play, I can win against the comp at the highest level, and I LOVE the game (a disclaimer for those of you who'll say I'm upset because I just can't play). Now here's the issue, actually there are two concerning shooting j's and a third that is a result of the first two:

1. I take what I consider to be good shots (feet set, a little separation, shots that would have been good for 2K9) with decent shooters at medium range and I brick 7 times out of 10.
2. It is extremely difficult to create separation for a jump shot this season, which is ironic, because jump shot separation is EASY in comparison to drive separation in real life, but it is opposite in this game. I create the separation necessary to drive with ease. Which brings me to my third problem.
3. I CAN win, but I am finding myself opting to take the layup or dunk because I miss so many jumpers, making my Points in the Paint out of this world, and not so sim.

Here's some background:
I read another thread and someone said the timing doesn't matter this year (?) but I am still trying to release my shot stick at the top of my jump. I have my my shooting sliders at 45 and I play hall of fame and I'm mostly shooting jumpers with Mayo who I believe is an 82 med range and Gay who is somewhere in the 70's. I want to swish some jumpers like the computer does against me... any suggestions? I'd hate to resort to moving my sliders up but I will if I have to, just wanted to see if any OS'ers had a remedy first to help me.

[Tigers3]

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I'm having the same problems as you with the Grizzlies. I'm having a hard time getting the release points right, mainly with Mayo and Iverson. Anybody got any tips?

[fffffffff9]

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It's been the same basic flaw every year. A lot easier to get a layup then a jumper off the dribble.

Total arcade BS.

I feel like it's a little better this year, though. If it weren't for the inside shooting percentages being so close to 100, this game might have had some actual balance to it.

[Matt23134]

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It's been the same basic flaw every year. A lot easier to get a layup then a jumper off the dribble.

Total arcade BS.

I feel like it's a little better this year, though. If it weren't for the inside shooting percentages being so close to 100, this game might have had some actual balance to it.

Isn't a layup always easier than a jumper?

[fffffffff9]

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Isn't a layup always easier than a jumper?

lol

Maybe if you're playing by yourself...or even one-on-one...but not in a five-on-five when you have a man in front of you trying to cut off your angles and force you into a jumpshot.

Talking about getting open for a shot, not the odds of you actually making it.

[Fistpick]

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A layup is easier to DO than a jumper, bur not easier to GET. It is a lot easier to STOP a man from driving than it is to STOP them from pulling up for a j.

[HMcCoy]

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Great topic man.

I spent about two hours this morning practicing jumpshots for the Raps and Bucks. I set the practice level to HOF and worked on getting "perfect release".

It is DAMN HARD to get perfect release consistently. Nearly impossible. The concept of "top of your jump" has changed drastically. Most of these sig shots have very little lift. Make no mistake, holding instead of getting the timing down will nnot help you. The jumpers are NOT automatic. Release does matter.

The releases are SOOOOOO FAST, tho.

Jose Calderon's jumper for example is literally a tap. Others are just a hair past a tap. Only one or two (Belinelli, Turk) make you hold the shoot button at all, and even then, its a small window.

Its pretty frustrating that the jumpers have become so much harder, but it's become even easier to dump it into the paint. Even us sim players have to start pounding the paint if we want to keep up with online opponents, cuz hitting from the perimeter is TOUGH, even with good space.

I will say this though...after practicing for a while, and then going to scrimmage on Superstar, some of those jumpers feel great within the flow of the game. Hitting Calderon in the corner and knocking down that "tap" jumper feels cool given how quick his jumper animation is.

Go to freestyle and work on your shot.

[Fistpick]

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Good idea... I'll do that. I haven't even checked to see if my release was poor. I've mostly just been doing a scrimmage practice and shooting (and missing mostly) for hours. Lol. So the release still matters... see I was curious because as the guy said on the other post, the animation IS the same regardless when you release the stick. 2K just confused me with that... I'll go and work on my timing and see if I can improve. Thanks.

P.s. You know what... now that I think of it my VIP said something about me releasing my shot too soon, so it has to matter - or else the game wouldn't keep track of it.

[Matt23134]

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lol

Maybe if you're playing by yourself...or even one-on-one...but not in a five-on-five when you have a man in front of you trying to cut off your angles and force you into a jumpshot.

Talking about getting open for a shot, not the odds of you actually making it.

Okay, I gotcha. I was just thinking of a layup in fast break situations.

[TheKasmar]

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I'm playing on superstar and getting blown out by 20. This never happen to me in 2k9.

[Fistpick]

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According to the 2K boards concerning the upcoming patch there seems to be an issue with the timing on the shot stick this season... maybe this is why I can't hit a jumper consistently to save my life.

[Rebel_INS]

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I'm not have any problems what-so-ever with timing jumpers.

Then again, I use the x button 2 shoot str8 up jumpers...shot stick 4 everything else...

[stewaat]

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Oh man I'm nailing J's this season! Last season I had guys I couldn't shoot with (Kobe/Melo/Wade) and this year I'm pretty good with all of them.

I'm hitting 3's, getting separation, and loving everything.

My favorite move is to go hard one way and do the hop stop back to create space and let it fly.

First year I actually use shot stick for jumpers too...last year it was X for jumpers/shotstick for layups/dunks.

[Rocboyz101]

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Great topic man.

I spent about two hours this morning practicing jumpshots for the Raps and Bucks. I set the practice level to HOF and worked on getting "perfect release".

It is DAMN HARD to get perfect release consistently. Nearly impossible. The concept of "top of your jump" has changed drastically. Most of these sig shots have very little lift. Make no mistake, holding instead of getting the timing down will nnot help you. The jumpers are NOT automatic. Release does matter.

The releases are SOOOOOO FAST, tho.

Jose Calderon's jumper for example is literally a tap. Others are just a hair past a tap. Only one or two (Belinelli, Turk) make you hold the shoot button at all, and even then, its a small window.

Its pretty frustrating that the jumpers have become so much harder, but it's become even easier to dump it into the paint. Even us sim players have to start pounding the paint if we want to keep up with online opponents, cuz hitting from the perimeter is TOUGH, even with good space.

I will say this though...after practicing for a while, and then going to scrimmage on Superstar, some of those jumpers feel great within the flow of the game. Hitting Calderon in the corner and knocking down that "tap" jumper feels cool given how quick his jumper animation is.

Go to freestyle and work on your shot.

After a few days of practicing, this is true. Jumpshooting on allstar is more reasonable for offline as the difficulty for jumpers really increases when you upp the level. Allstar is a good place to start/stay at.

[danefizzle]

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mayo has one of the hardest jump shots in the game. i think a lot of people have trouble making jumpers w. him because of his sig shot.

gay's release is really really quick. just tap the button long enough for it to not be a pumpfake, then release.