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  • tcrews
    Rookie
    • Oct 2009
    • 360

    #1

    I need help with losing. Yes, you read that right.

    I need help with losing. Let me explain.

    In this game, no matter what the sliders, difficulty level, or whatever else. I have only lost two games. I hate winning all the time. In my mlb 09 franchise I am 26-22 and love that I go into every game not knowing if I'm going to win or lose.

    Please don't get me wrong, I really don't care about winning in a video game, I'm not bragging, I don't think I'm amazing. I really want to lose. I'm completely envious of guys that I see posting and saying that they're currently 3-7 in their franchise or 22-22 or whatever else. I wish that could happen to me.

    I have currently tried nearly every slider set on the OS forum. And I play realistically. I don't lead pass to death. I run plays, use the fast break, have a great post game. I even have the sliders all in the CPU's favor.

    My inside shot is at 34, CPU 36
    close shot 38, cpu 40. etc etc

    I'm trying to make the game harder whilst keeping it realistic. I'm currently on superstar right now because those are the most realistic games I'm getting in terms of shooting percentages.

    The two games that I lost, one was the first game I played of 2k10. The other was a loss to the spurs as the hornets. The CPU cannot seem to consistently play great, or even good basketball. And by no means do I think I'm amazing at this game. I just want to know what everyone has their game settings/sliders/whatever on that makes it possible to lose games. 7 games out of 10 I'm asleep at the wheel by halftime just coasting through the rest of the game. And it's getting old.

    I started a Warriors franchise thinking that because they were a younger, weaker team, I'd actually have trouble winning with them. I started off great, I was losing to the rockets 62-61 going into the 4th quarter of the season opener. Then by some miracle I outscored them 28-6 in the 4th quarter and won 90-67. I figured maybe I just had a lucky quarter, so played my next game and went up by 25 points at halftime.

    I'm not sure what it is exactly that I'm looking for. I'm a ps3 user so I don't have the patch. I just would like to know how some of you are doing in your franchise, what your record is, and what sliders or settings you're on that enable you to lose or have a tight game. I just really wish I could find a slider set or difficulty level or group of settings that made each game very competitive and not a 'gimme'

    Thanks for your responses in advance. I could really use a lot of them to help me out. This may seem ridiculous but it's completely true and has taken all the enjoyment out of the game for me.
  • Pared
    Legen - WAIT FOR IT
    • Feb 2003
    • 39337

    #2
    Re: I need help with losing. Yes, you read that right.

    I can imagine. Only thing I can offer at least for your situation is to wait for the patch. It's going to make the game more difficult, because the defense is more aware of things. Hard to explain, but you should see the difference immediately.
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    • Keaton
      Rookie
      • Jun 2008
      • 207

      #3
      Re: I need help with losing. Yes, you read that right.

      Stop massing with the shooting sliders...it will only result in too many missed/made open/contested shots. When its getting to easy but I feel the shooting silder are ok I only work with Def. and Off. awareness slider. Then wait for the patch, is harder to get open looks post-patch.

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      • fcabanski
        Banned
        • Nov 2009
        • 350

        #4
        Re: I need help with losing. Yes, you read that right.

        The problem you're having is the same thing beats the CPU every time. The CPU has no memory of what happens. The CPU can't adjust. And worst of all the CPU has no desire to win, doesn't play tougher in tough situations.

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        • tcrews
          Rookie
          • Oct 2009
          • 360

          #5
          Re: I need help with losing. Yes, you read that right.

          Pared - Thank you for responding. As of this moment I'm not sure when the ps3 users will get the patch. I can only hope it's soon though. I had read a few of your posts and trust your judgement so I'm looking forward to the patch.

          Keaton - I was only using the shooting sliders as an example as to how I have the sliders in their favor. Right now the D-AWR for the CPU is at 100. I can't really do anything else. O-AWR for them is at 70. So i can bump that up to 100 as well.

          fcabanski - It seems as though somewhere, maybe on the back of 2k9's box. I read something about 'adaptive AI' or something. I guess that didn't make it into this years version huh? haha. You're right though. They don't ever recognize anything your doing. Unless someone on your team has 20 points in the half, then they'll double. Other than that as far as stopping plays goes. Nothing, they have the memories of goldfish.

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          • dazpoo23
            Rookie
            • Oct 2006
            • 422

            #6
            Re: I need help with losing. Yes, you read that right.

            use the kings, problem solved!
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            • cjamestx
              Rookie
              • Nov 2008
              • 242

              #7
              Re: I need help with losing. Yes, you read that right.

              Ummmmmmm change your difficulty to HOF. I bet you lose then.

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              • tcrews
                Rookie
                • Oct 2009
                • 360

                #8
                Re: I need help with losing. Yes, you read that right.

                Hahaha. Nice.

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                • tcrews
                  Rookie
                  • Oct 2009
                  • 360

                  #9
                  Re: I need help with losing. Yes, you read that right.

                  I have tried HOF. And ironically the two games I lost were both on all-star. HOF seems less challenging and less realistic than SS or AS(with sliders). With the right slider set I'd give it a go again but believe me. I have been playing this game since it's incarnation on dreamcast, so I know enough to try higher difficulty levels. That would be fair logic for someone with my problem, yes? I promise I wouldn't waste anyones time if I hadn't tried all the difficulty levels.

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                  • tross840
                    Rookie
                    • Oct 2008
                    • 53

                    #10
                    Re: I need help with losing. Yes, you read that right.

                    dude i feel just like you..i just had an 8 game winning streak with the knicks beating the nuggets, magic (twice) celtics and LAKERS ! I hated it after the first couple games. Then something magical happened. I lost 3 starters to injuries...and im on a 4 game losing streak getting blown out of the water at times. I love it.

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                    • tcrews
                      Rookie
                      • Oct 2009
                      • 360

                      #11
                      Re: I need help with losing. Yes, you read that right.

                      tross thank you so much for that. it's great to know I'm not alone. Really it is. I feel as though when I play a team like the Nuggets, magic, celtics, or lakers. Not to mention Cavs, Spurs, and some others. That at the very least it should be closely contested all game. If I'm able to squeak out a 1-4 point win. I'm okay with that. But the reality is if I'm using the Warriors I should be losing the majority of those games. Not winning all of them. Aside from the starters going down. What sliders are you using and what difficulty are you playing on?

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                      • Pared
                        Legen - WAIT FOR IT
                        • Feb 2003
                        • 39337

                        #12
                        Re: I need help with losing. Yes, you read that right.

                        One thing can do is up the help D effectiveness for the CPU via sliders. Their players will rotate over faster and make more of a difference in your shot success.
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                        • tcrews
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                          • Oct 2009
                          • 360

                          #13
                          Re: I need help with losing. Yes, you read that right.

                          Right now Pared the help D for the CPU is at 100. I will move the O-AWR up to 100 for them as well. Right now I started using Greene Flashes sliders and made a couple slight tweaks to them. They gave me good percentages and stats. But still the games were more often than not, blowouts. So at this point I gotta go game by game and just gradually raise everything. Thank you for the help.

                          what's your record in your chise Pared? Are you finding yourself just as likely to win as lose? Are games against the elite teams (lakers, cavs, boston) harder as they should be? What difficulty level are you on?

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                          • DustinT
                            Big Dummy
                            • Nov 2004
                            • 1933

                            #14
                            Re: I need help with losing. Yes, you read that right.

                            Put the difficulty on HOF, then zero out your sliders and give the CPU 100. Play some games and adjust the sliders until you get to where you want to be. It might take some time, but it will be worth it to have the perfect slider set up.
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                            • Pared
                              Legen - WAIT FOR IT
                              • Feb 2003
                              • 39337

                              #15
                              Re: I need help with losing. Yes, you read that right.

                              Originally posted by tcrews
                              Right now Pared the help D for the CPU is at 100. I will move the O-AWR up to 100 for them as well. Right now I started using Greene Flashes sliders and made a couple slight tweaks to them. They gave me good percentages and stats. But still the games were more often than not, blowouts. So at this point I gotta go game by game and just gradually raise everything. Thank you for the help.

                              what's your record in your chise Pared? Are you finding yourself just as likely to win as lose? Are games against the elite teams (lakers, cavs, boston) harder as they should be? What difficulty level are you on?
                              I'm switching back b/w Pro and All-Star. Quite honestly it depends on the team I play with. With the Jazz, I'm on Pro. I think I was 4-4 or something like that, but admittedly, with our online league and sliders I'm testing, I haven't had as much to get into it as I would like. Once I get the sliders correct, I will most likely continue on.
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