Pick and Roll broken?

[blues rocker]

does pick and roll seem as broken to everyone else as it does to me? i'm currently playing on sim/allstar...i do what I'm supposed to (hold down L1) to call for a pick...big man comes over and sets the pick...but instead of making a cut after setting the pick, he will just stand there and do nothing - now what is the point of even setting a pick if he won't cut afterwards? and it's not because he doesn't have a lane to the hoop....usually there is a wide open path to the hoop, but he won't cut to the hoop. what is up with this? doesn't work at all.

is 2k just trying to make the pick and roll ineffective on purpose so people won't abuse it? I don't get it. if they want to tone down pick and rolls, they should do it by making the defense counter it better, rather than making the players not execute it at all.

[tariqosuave]

Re: Pick and Roll broken?

works fine to me...

[extremeskins04]

Re: Pick and Roll broken?

It works about half the time. It really depends on who you are playing against for it to work. It definately doesn't work as well as 2k10 did I can tell you that.

[Colts18]

Re: Pick and Roll broken?

It works fine for me. Maybe you are used to the old 2K's where the cut to the basket and you could magically lead pass them to catch it in the paint through multiple defenders.

[timid]

Re: Pick and Roll broken?

You gotta read the tutorials...You hold the button down to make him pick and pop and u let it go for him to role, something like that...gotta check in the game...

[ggsimmonds]

Re: Pick and Roll broken?

I think your problem could be due to the ratings of your big man. I have noticed that my lower rated players cannot grasp the complexities of cutting to the basket.

Or it could be that your big men want to take jumpshots. Yi of the Wizards tends to do this often. Instead of rolling to the basket he will kind of fade out or camp out waiting for the pass so he can shoot an uncontested jumper. Those goofy Asian/Euro players

[Chairman7w]

Re: Pick and Roll broken?

Mine works just fine. Played as the Kings last night against Houston and Tyreke had 8 assists in a 5 minute game using pick & roll. It *really* helps to get Yao away from that basket!

[extremeskins04]

Re: Pick and Roll broken?

Like I said it depends on the defenses you are playing against. I play coach mode so it takes me out of the equation completely. I rely on the players and their ratings to take effect.

It works half the time.

[Isura]

Re: Pick and Roll broken?

You gotta read the tutorials...You hold the button down to make him pick and pop and u let it go for him to role, something like that...gotta check in the game...

Yes.

Press and releasee = P n Roll
Press, release, press again = P n Slip
Press and hold = P n Pop

[blues rocker]

Re: Pick and Roll broken?

Yes.

Press and releasee = P n Roll
Press, release, press again = P n Slip
Press and hold = P n Pop

i already know the controls....i'm doing everything right, my big man simply refuses to cut to the hoop after setting the pick. it's ridiculous.

If it is being caused by the ratings of the big man or the ratings of the opposing team, then that is just ridiculously scripted. Just because I'm playing against a good defensive team, that should not cause my players to become stupid and not cut to the hoop. same goes if it's being caused by low-rated big men...even if my big man is not highly-rated, he should still be able to recognize a wide open lane and know to cut to the hoop after setting a pick. lame.

i would be willing to accept this if the CPU defenders were coming over and cutting off the lane to the hoop...but they're not...my big man is simply standing there like an idiot zombie rather than cutting toward a wide open lane to the hoop. this scripted inconsistency is exactly the type of thing that ruins good games.

[Whomario]

Re: Pick and Roll broken?

Call Pick and Roll Plays, most are much better than just calling for a pick. More movement by the other guys, screener cutting to his spot with more purpose.

[Brew]

Re: Pick and Roll broken?

Pick and Roll works as good as the players you are using the play with.
You have to be more patient with the pick and roll this year... you cant just go around the pick at full speed and expect it to work.
CPU defense is also much smarter defending the Pick and roll this year.

I am a PG for OKC in my player and often Durant or Green are setting the picks.
Durant almost always cuts to the basket or rolls to an open spot and waits for the pass to shoot the jumper. Works great!
Green tends to roll out to the 3pt line for a pick and pop which is equally effective.
When Aldrich, Ibaka, and especially DJ White or Nick Collison are in the game the pick and roll becomes much less effective as often they dont roll when you think they will or they just wont roll at all. Plus their hands arent as good for handling the quick passes.
Its works very realistically IMO

[blues rocker]

Re: Pick and Roll broken?

Pick and Roll works as good as the players you are using the play with.
You have to be more patient with the pick and roll this year... you cant just go around the pick at full speed and expect it to work.
CPU defense is also much smarter defending the Pick and roll this year.

I am a PG for OKC in my player and often Durant or Green are setting the picks.
Durant almost always cuts to the basket or rolls to an open spot and waits for the pass to shoot the jumper. Works great!
Green tends to roll out to the 3pt line for a pick and pop which is equally effective.
When Aldrich, Ibaka, and especially DJ White or Nick Collison are in the game the pick and roll becomes much less effective as often they dont roll when you think they will or they just wont roll at all. Plus their hands arent as good for handling the quick passes.
Its works very realistically IMO

this is completely ridiculous IMO. the whole point of giving us "pick and roll/pop" control is so that we can control how our players move after setting the pick (keep holding R1 for pop, release early for a roll)...what is the point of having this control scheme if the CPU players simply ignore it most of the time? that is the definition of broken to me. just because a player is rated lower, he should still be able to execute a simple pick and roll. it's like 2k decided to make any big man rated lower than 85 act like a complete moron...even bad players in the NBA can cut to the hoop after setting a pick...it's the simplest concept ever...you should not have to be an all star to recognize a wide open lane to the hoop.

[Rocboyz101]

Re: Pick and Roll broken?

The pick and roll is pretty much broken, against the CPU atleast. The pick and pop works to perfection, but the players hardly ever cut to the basket on PnRs. I set up a perfect pick and roll with Hakim Warrick, he has a wide open lane, and I have to hope that he rolls which he will only do about 25% of the time. Whose idiotic idea was this? If its tied to overall rating then that's just stupid. I can roll to the basket in a game IRL, doesn't mean I'm gonna catch it and finish. But I can roll when ever I want to if the lane is there. Even if the lane is there in 2k, your at the mercy of the AI.

[Scruffychicken]

Re: Pick and Roll broken?

I've had no problem with the pick and roll using the LB. Just like another poster said, all you do is hold LB then press it again and after the pick the screener will cut to the basket. Seems pretty simple to me.