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  • RedmanR
    MVP
    • Aug 2003
    • 2120

    #1

    Why are defenders leaving their assignments?

    I've read through several topics and countless comments but still have yet to find a logical explanation as to why some defenders, during game simply leave their man in which their supposed to be guarding, I can't understand it?

    It happens more on defense and it's not just with scrub players, it's happening with any player at random. I'm really enjoying 2K12 but it annoys the HELL out of me when I'm trying to get back in the game to see my A.I. team mate just walk away from his assignment which usually results in an open shot or a drive to the basket. The majority of the game I defend the ball where ever it goes, if not. . . I'm giving up an uncontested jumper/lay-up and that's not the way it is but, since my A.I. team mates walk away from their assignments I have to occasionally switch to that wandering defender which still leaves a shooter open for a brief moment. Enough time for the cpu to generate a basket

    The same can be said on the offensive side of the ball to, if I elect to run a play at times my play becomes busted. At any given moment bigs will vacate the post or the mid range sections of the floor. When it happens it's usually one player but there are times when two bigs have walked off

    I've read of changing plays for bigs to low-post or reducing the Isolation slider for freelance under tendencies but since there really is no slider to combat this issue on the defensive side of the ball per player what do you do?


    We just don't walk away from our assignments in the NBA
    Where they DO that? ? ?
  • youALREADYknow
    MVP
    • Aug 2008
    • 3635

    #2
    Re: Why are defenders leaving their assignments?

    In Coach Profiles, change the settings for your team to 100 Defensive Pressure, 0 Help Defense, and 0 Double Teams and check to see if defenders still leave their assignments. I haven't tested at those extremes, but I'm sure you will see a major improvement based on the settings I have tested.

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    • StickSkillz
      Rookie
      • Oct 2011
      • 18

      #3
      Re: Why are defenders leaving their assignments?

      I also wanna know a fix for this..

      Here is an example I have from an Online Association that im in..

      <iframe width="420" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/UyRcecO6S_M" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

      I'm the Cavs and I mean he just completely leaves Raymond Felton wide open and goes straight to the paint. I moved him back to Felton but then he went right back. I even had my defensive strategy at "Pressure shooters" and Help Defense at 0 in the coach profiles
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      • RedmanR
        MVP
        • Aug 2003
        • 2120

        #4
        Re: Why are defenders leaving their assignments?

        Originally posted by youALREADYknow
        In Coach Profiles, change the settings for your team to 100 Defensive Pressure, 0 Help Defense, and 0 Double Teams and check to see if defenders still leave their assignments. I haven't tested at those extremes, but I'm sure you will see a major improvement based on the settings I have tested.
        I've been making those adjustments since you first pointed me in that direction in another discussion. It still happens.

        Originally posted by StickSkillz
        I also wanna know a fix for this..

        Here is an example I have from an Online Association that im in..



        I'm the Cavs and I mean he just completely leaves Raymond Felton wide open and goes straight to the paint. I moved him back to Felton but then he went right back. I even had my defensive strategy at "Pressure shooters" and Help Defense at 0 in the coach profiles
        That's exactly what I'm talking about. It still occurs with coaching adjustments as well. For some weird reason it happens on offense for User only.
        Where they DO that? ? ?

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        • Sovartus
          Pro
          • Mar 2007
          • 503

          #5
          Re: Why are defenders leaving their assignments?

          Originally posted by StickSkillz
          I also wanna know a fix for this..

          Here is an example I have from an Online Association that im in..

          <IFRAME height=315 src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/UyRcecO6S_M" frameBorder=0 width=420 allowfullscreen></IFRAME>

          I'm the Cavs and I mean he just completely leaves Raymond Felton wide open and goes straight to the paint. I moved him back to Felton but then he went right back. I even had my defensive strategy at "Pressure shooters" and Help Defense at 0 in the coach profiles
          Go in and change your defensive setting for that post guy from auto to a specific setting. It looks like the cpu may be auto setting him to double in the post.
          You also might want to make sure that the player doubling is set to moderate or tight defense for his assignment as well so he doesn't sag off.
          Last edited by Sovartus; 10-18-2011, 11:11 AM.
          These are my opinions based off of my perspective. I don't expect everyone to agree with me, but if you disagree, we can still agree to disagree agreeably and not fight about it.

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          • ronglengco
            Rookie
            • Sep 2005
            • 62

            #6
            Re: Why are defenders leaving their assignments?

            Originally posted by StickSkillz
            I also wanna know a fix for this..

            Here is an example I have from an Online Association that im in..

            <iframe src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/UyRcecO6S_M" allowfullscreen="" width="420" frameborder="0" height="315"></iframe>

            I'm the Cavs and I mean he just completely leaves Raymond Felton wide open and goes straight to the paint. I moved him back to Felton but then he went right back. I even had my defensive strategy at "Pressure shooters" and Help Defense at 0 in the coach profiles
            Can somebody please explain why this is happening because I'm also very frustrated about this?

            If you can explain it, can you please provide a workaround the issue? Thanks in advance!

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            • Pared
              Legen - WAIT FOR IT
              • Feb 2003
              • 39337

              #7
              Re: Why are defenders leaving their assignments?

              Originally posted by Sovartus
              Go in and change your defensive setting for that post guy from auto to a specific setting. It looks like the cpu may be auto setting him to double in the post.
              You also might want to make sure that the player doubling is set to moderate or tight defense for his assignment as well so he doesn't sag off.
              Bingo.

              Makes you hope they fix the help defensive assignments because the spots they head to right now don't really "help." They just completely put them out of position.
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              • nova91
                MVP
                • Oct 2009
                • 2074

                #8
                Re: Why are defenders leaving their assignments?

                I gotta say it because you know it's gonna be said eventually: Play better defense, play on-ball defense, lower it to rookie, learn to play the game etc. etc..
                Say "No" to railroaded MC modes.

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                • Pared
                  Legen - WAIT FOR IT
                  • Feb 2003
                  • 39337

                  #9
                  Re: Why are defenders leaving their assignments?

                  Originally posted by nova91
                  I gotta say it because you know it's gonna be said eventually: Play better defense, play on-ball defense, lower it to rookie, learn to play the game etc. etc..
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                  • Goffs
                    New Ork Giants
                    • Feb 2003
                    • 12279

                    #10
                    Re: Why are defenders leaving their assignments?

                    Originally posted by nova91
                    I gotta say it because you know it's gonna be said eventually: Play better defense, play on-ball defense, lower it to rookie, learn to play the game etc. etc..
                    nope......YOU can play better defense but you can't say the same for your cpu teammates who has a tendency of leaving guys wide open...

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                    • jmarcguy
                      MVP
                      • Dec 2009
                      • 1322

                      #11
                      Re: Why are defenders leaving their assignments?

                      I had a player run into the stands for no reason! I noticed I only had 4 defenders & finally he runs down the court.

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                      • Strangerstake
                        Rookie
                        • Jan 2010
                        • 146

                        #12
                        Re: Why are defenders leaving their assignments?

                        I noticed that this tends to happen a lot if you go with lock-down D or constant pressure on the fly.
                        This is because when you select your strategy the defensive settings change and pretty much everyone is set to dbl team once they drive the lane, so if a player automatically gets too close to the rim or is driving inside then shooters or scrubs are left open no matter who it is.
                        What I do is I let this happen and I just use the right analog stick to contest the drive and if kicked switch my controlled player and try and contest the shooter. Many times they score but NOT always. They do miss and keep in mind the defensive rotations are very well implemented if the game is played correctly.
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                        • ronglengco
                          Rookie
                          • Sep 2005
                          • 62

                          #13
                          Re: Why are defenders leaving their assignments?

                          Originally posted by nova91
                          I gotta say it because you know it's gonna be said eventually: Play better defense, play on-ball defense, lower it to rookie, learn to play the game etc. etc..
                          Are you saying you don't see this as an issue in the game? If so, either you are 1) too arrogant to admit, 2) blind or 3) you're playing a different game where you can control all your players at the same time...LOL

                          Originally posted by Goffs
                          nope......YOU can play better defense but you can't say the same for your cpu teammates who has a tendency of leaving guys wide open...
                          Exactly the point of this thread!

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                          • jayman504
                            MVP
                            • Nov 2006
                            • 1177

                            #14
                            Re: Why are defenders leaving their assignments?

                            Originally posted by Sovartus
                            Go in and change your defensive setting for that post guy from auto to a specific setting. It looks like the cpu may be auto setting him to double in the post.
                            You also might want to make sure that the player doubling is set to moderate or tight defense for his assignment as well so he doesn't sag off.
                            That doesn't work..Ive gone in countless times to fix how I want my coverage to be but always seems to "Sag Off" players at random. Do I really want to sag off Ray Allen??
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                            • Da_Czar
                              NBA 2K Gameplay Producer, Offensive AI System - SIM NATION
                              • Jul 2002
                              • 5408

                              #15
                              Re: Why are defenders leaving their assignments?

                              Originally posted by RedmanR
                              I've been making those adjustments since you first pointed me in that direction in another discussion. It still happens.



                              That's exactly what I'm talking about. It still occurs with coaching adjustments as well. For some weird reason it happens on offense for User only.
                              What do you have your offball defensive settings set to for the guys you keep seeing leave ? If you have it at auto they will still decide to leave regardless of coach settings I believe If you don't want them to leave at all set them to deny for off ball settings.
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