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  • drew_3
    Rookie
    • Feb 2010
    • 250

    #1

    Straight up crossover ineffective?

    Would anybody else agree, the straight up crossover ie l2 and left or right on the left stick is very ineffective, I seem to only ever bump into the defender, the animation seems to take you forward as well as just to the side.

    I love the game and after some practice im getting the hang of things, but one or two things still irk me like this.
  • SIZEqueen
    Banned
    • Sep 2011
    • 234

    #2
    Re: Straight up crossover ineffective?

    Originally posted by drew_3
    Would anybody else agree, the straight up crossover ie l2 and left or right on the left stick is very ineffective, I seem to only ever bump into the defender, the animation seems to take you forward as well as just to the side.

    I love the game and after some practice im getting the hang of things, but one or two things still irk me like this.

    I've been saying this since the game was released. Stepbacks work and hesitations do also. Crossovers and in and outs do not. Double crosses seem to work a bit.

    I just don't use them anymore. When I do I get sucked into the defender and then we go for some nice little ride where he drags me across half the arena.

    This needs to be looked at.

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    • drew_3
      Rookie
      • Feb 2010
      • 250

      #3
      Re: Straight up crossover ineffective?

      Yeah I agree, I thought it was just my ability to execute, but I guess not! It seems a bit lame to always have to hesitate or step back in order to beat a defender off the dribble.

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      • B-Ball Life
        Rookie
        • Aug 2010
        • 105

        #4
        Re: Straight up crossover ineffective?

        i find all dribble moves effective. given the right situation. if you use the cross off a pass before the defender can read it it works beautifully. use the momentum system too. if you walk a direction and he cuts you off hit turbo and then cross. trust me youll be satisfied if you try these tips

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        • dizazter
          Rookie
          • Jul 2003
          • 25

          #5
          Re: Straight up crossover ineffective?

          All the dribble moves work depending on the matchup and situation.....i actually use the basci crossover the most....rock back and forth until i see my defender out of posistion the im outta there!

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          • keshunleon
            MVP
            • Apr 2006
            • 2106

            #6
            Re: Straight up crossover ineffective?

            crossovers tend to hit the defenders knee a lot...
            True bout my business, Mane!

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            • drew_3
              Rookie
              • Feb 2010
              • 250

              #7
              Re: Straight up crossover ineffective?

              Originally posted by dizazter
              All the dribble moves work depending on the matchup and situation.....i actually use the basci crossover the most....rock back and forth until i see my defender out of posistion the im outta there!
              Thats a sizeup not a basic crossover!

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              • SouthBeach
                Pro
                • Mar 2008
                • 918

                #8
                Re: Straight up crossover ineffective?

                Originally posted by SIZEqueen
                I've been saying this since the game was released. Stepbacks work and hesitations do also. Crossovers and in and outs do not. Double crosses seem to work a bit.

                I just don't use them anymore. When I do I get sucked into the defender and then we go for some nice little ride where he drags me across half the arena.

                This needs to be looked at.
                Hahahahahahaha!

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                • TUSS11
                  MVP
                  • Nov 2007
                  • 1483

                  #9
                  Re: Straight up crossover ineffective?

                  Most of the crossovers are weak. I find John Wall's crossover to be pretty effective though.

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                  • SIZEqueen
                    Banned
                    • Sep 2011
                    • 234

                    #10
                    Re: Straight up crossover ineffective?

                    Originally posted by SouthBeach
                    Hahahahahahaha!

                    I know right! But seriously, it is easily one of the most unrealistic things in this game. It's laughable that the animation is in the game. If that happened once, ever, in the NBA I'd fall out of my chair laughing. Not to mention that throughout that entire sequence there wasn't a foul call.

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                    • drew_3
                      Rookie
                      • Feb 2010
                      • 250

                      #11
                      Re: Straight up crossover ineffective?

                      Originally posted by SIZEqueen
                      I know right! But seriously, it is easily one of the most unrealistic things in this game. It's laughable that the animation is in the game. If that happened once, ever, in the NBA I'd fall out of my chair laughing. Not to mention that throughout that entire sequence there wasn't a foul call.
                      Its because, I have come to the conclusion, the animation is crossover and forwards instead of just the movement left and right.

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                      • SIZEqueen
                        Banned
                        • Sep 2011
                        • 234

                        #12
                        Originally posted by drew_3
                        Its because, I have come to the conclusion, the animation is crossover and forwards instead of just the movement left and right.
                        Some of the cool ones actually make you go from one side to the other and forward as you mentioned but also kind of turns you so that you end up going ever so slightly (at the very end of the crossover) back in the direction you started.

                        This is hard to explain but you can see it plain as day on replay. Use the last crossover package. It's 12 I believe. Take the ball from your right hand to your left. If you now watch the animation in replay slowly, you will see aside from going to far forward, that you are now dribbling with your left hand as you wanted, but your shoulder dips down and for a brief second instead of going straight or left (across your body) you actually start turning inward.

                        It's a cool looking package but it is near useless because in order to use it you can't have your defender anywhere but dead in front of you and far away. Assuming you're going up and down the court and the ball is in your right hand and your left shoulder is closer to your defenders left shoulder but there is still room, and you want to go across him instead of going to the right, that crossover package cannot be used. It will trigger a suction canimation.

                        I'm just used to not using crossovers much at all. I also use package 5 a lot. It isn't flashy but you can actually use it from time to time. The 6th and 7th package work a little bit also.
                        Last edited by SIZEqueen; 11-13-2011, 07:40 AM.

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                        • drew_3
                          Rookie
                          • Feb 2010
                          • 250

                          #13
                          Re: Straight up crossover ineffective?

                          Originally posted by SIZEqueen
                          Some of the cool ones actually make you go from one side to the other and forward as you mentioned but also kind of turns you so that you end up going ever so slightly (at the very end of the crossover) back in the direction you started.

                          This is hard to explain but you can see it plain as day on replay. Use the last crossover package. It's 12 I believe. Take the ball from your right hand to your left. If you now watch the animation in replay slowly, you will see aside from going to far forward, that you are now dribbling with your left hand as you wanted, but your shoulder dips down and for a brief second instead of going straight or left (across your body) you actually start turning inward.

                          It's a cool looking package but it is near useless because in order to use it you can't have your defender anywhere but dead in front of you and far away. Assuming you're going up and down the court and the ball is in your right hand and your left shoulder is closer to your defenders left shoulder but there is still room, and you want to go across him instead of going to the right, that crossover package cannot be used. It will trigger a suction canimation.

                          I'm just used to not using crossovers much at all. I also use package 5 a lot. It isn't flashy but you can actually use it from time to time. The 6th and 7th package work a little bit also.
                          Thats the problem though isn't it, they look nice but dont work, also it's not good enough to say oh well I just won't use them they are a fundamental part of the game and therefore should be effective, not all the time but they should work especially with elite players.

                          Sorry if that sounds like im having a go at you, im not just this game winds me up this year. Thats why I have stopped playing and have switched my attention to other titles.

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                          • LionsFanNJ
                            All Star
                            • Apr 2006
                            • 9464

                            #14
                            Imo the damn onvball D is way to high which causes things like this. I dropped some guy ratings (I'M LOOKING AT YOU JOSE CALDERON) and dome ISOmoves have become more effective getting space

                            .....now you damb teammates all collapsing on you when you drive is another story...
                            HELLO BROOKYLN.
                            All Black Everything

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                            • Jangle Leg
                              Rookie
                              • Aug 2004
                              • 123

                              #15
                              Re: Straight up crossover ineffective?

                              I use the Hornets and Chris Paul crossovers don't work when I need them too. He goes into the defender instead of going away from them. I end up getting a bump animation and would have to use the step back. Stephen Curry crossovers seem to work though.

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