So all these players are better mid-range shooters than Kobe?

[JWM1012512514]

Kobe probably has all his shooting abilities at "Great", making him more useful. As said before ITT, it's not all in the ratings.

[G35skyline]

IT looks like 2K may be basing the ratings on player percentages, so these guys may have a better mid range percentage for the 2010/11 NBA season, but like everyone else in here is saying, the ratings dont tell the whole story..

And Anthony Morrow is the only player on that list that is a better shooter than Kobe, and even that is only by spotting up catch and shoot type a deal, Kobe is the greatest ever at creating his own shot from the triple threat position.
I can catch the ball with Kobe create for myself and pull up hit shots on 2 guys all game long right in their face, I guarantee you can never do that with any of the players on that list

[thugnificant]

based on % these players are better shooters than kobe from mid because he is a VOLUME jumpshooter. if you watch laker games consistantly its a well known fact he misses more than he makes unlike a player like dirk. Those shooting abillities work in your favor but if you playing a good on ball defender kobe wont make a jumper on HOF SIM online. With increased D awareness in the patch kobe wont be consistaly doing pullup jumpers over 2 defenders like somone quoted earlier because mid sliders were also requested to be dropped.

[RyanFitzmagic]

Quote: Originally Posted by keshunleon

Rashidi explained this about a month ago. Kobe's mid is lower because he takes more fade away jumpers and contested shots. Most of those guys mids are wide open jumpers... If someone contest is or is near them they miss it. I played a few games with the Bucks and Gooden miss 4 out 5 jumpers if a defend is near him but he is money all alone. SIT plays a roll also plus Kobe takes more close shots anyway...

So, people just take whatever Rashidi says as gospel?

That makes no sense. The fact that Kobe's mid-range jumpers are mostly contested and/or fadeaways would mean that his mid-range rating should be HIGHER, not lower, than spot-up shooters who only take wide open jumpers. Kobe is taking extremely difficult shots, and still making them at a respectable clip.

However... I'm sure that Kobe's Shoot Off Dribble, Shoot In Traffic, etc. ratings are all higher than most (if not all) of the players OP listed. So it balances out. It's fine, if that is the case.

[DukeC]

Quote: Originally Posted by RyanFitzmagic

So, people just take whatever Rashidi says as gospel? That makes no sense. The fact that Kobe's mid-range jumpers are mostly contested and/or fadeaways would mean that his mid-range rating should be HIGHER, not lower, than spot-up shooters who only take wide open jumpers. Kobe is taking extremely difficult shots, and still making them at a respectable clip. However... I'm sure that Kobe's Shoot Off Dribble, Shoot In Traffic, etc. ratings are all higher than most (if not all) of the players OP listed. So it balances out. It's fine, if that is the case.

You just answered yourself....

[bballswish]

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[bballswish]

So Kobe's mid-range rating gets decreased because he is capable of making more difficult midrange shots?

IF that question is too difficult to answer without spewing all that misleading logic(based on shooting variables) that are full of refutable holes like you guys just did, here is a simpler question:

So when completely wide-open, in ideal situations, all of those players are better mid-range shooters than Kobe?

[slimm44]

Quote: Originally Posted by bballswish

First of all, no need to be corny with your first paragraph. And btw, it literally took around 5 minutes, including typing the rest of the post and the title. Second of all, stop trying to talk like a failed, out-of-shape-athlete who thinks that he should have a ESPN radio show instead of other sports jockeys and analysts who you think don't deserve their job when there is someone like you with a superior knowledge of sports... trying to deal with real life insecurities by pretending to your self that you will gain respect by typing out cliches, defending a relatively lesser known player to make your self seem like a truer fan, and using embarrassingly cornyass phrases like "twice on Sunday", "take the over", "absolutely money", and "minutes to boot." You intentionally missed the point of my whole post. Obviously there are some shooting specialists in that list, duh but 1) I said all these players and 2) again, you intentionally missed to point to you can give yourself an opportunity to type about a lesser known player to make yourself appear as if you know the imperative details of basketball. And someone who has been on a video game forum since 2005 should never, ever, be criticizing someone for not doing something more productive with their time. Now sit there and get mad because of this trenchant post, and keep being in denial to pretend that you not getting respected or picked on a team on any court or park in real life will be all alleviated if you somehow establish in this digital and relatively insignificant medium that you truly know even a hint about basketball.

5 minutes? I guess I should have taken the under.

Also, after reading your pseudo-analytic rant trying to dissect and belittle what you perceive to be my life, accomplishments, and how I spend my time - you probably should've chosen the word juvenile as a descriptor at the end instead of trenchant. Your post didn't cut to the core of me nor was it keen and on-point. There was no genuine insight used, just guesses, misplaced anger and horribly unpolished analysis techniques you probably learned in an introductory psych class. I've seen better insight from 11 year old emotionally and behaviorally disordered kids.

I've been practicing the most intense form of Individual and Family therapy the state-in-which-I-live live offers for the past 5 years and have been supervising a team of therapists for the past 3. If you'd like some tips on how to improve your behavioral analysis game, let me know through a PM. I'd be happy to help. It's sorely lacking.

That being said, if you have the PC version of the game, check out my roster file in the PC sub-forum. It plays pretty good. If you have a 360, check out youALREADYknow's roster. He knows what he's doing, as well as multiple other roster makes on this site. As others have said, each individual shot rating is influenced by multiple other factors including hotspots, consistency, offensive awareness, shoot-in-traffic, shoot-off-dribble (which I assume is a hidden rating this year), and possibly others. It's helpful to understand how the individual parts of the game's ratings system works together before you start complaining about it.

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So Kobe's mid-range rating gets decreased because he is capable of making more difficult midrange shots? IF that question is too difficult to answer without spewing all that misleading logic(based on shooting variables) that are full of refutable holes like you guys just did, here is a simpler question: So when completely wide-open, in ideal situations, all of those players are better mid-range shooters than Kobe?

Kobe's shooting percentage is lower because he takes more difficult shots. He is a perennial sub-40% mid-range shooter because of forced shots and bad shot selection. He usually doesn't take wide-open 20 footers so your comparison is off to begin with.

If you don't want to listen to reason and sound explanation about how the rating system works then you just want to be right. Easy solution - jack Kobe's mid-range rating up to 99 so he can be the mid-range assassin you understand him to be. It's your game, do what you want with it.