Will there be another patch for 2k12?

[Kaworu517]

I just watched Chris Smoove's video about the "Big Patch" and early on he says that this is what we have to settle with until 2k13.

Is this correct? 2K isn't gonna change ANYTHING about the game until next year? I didn't get 2k11 until about 7 months after it came out, but a friend told me that there were multiple patches for it. I figured there would be multiple patches for 2k12 as well.

[Flightwhite24]

Re: Will there be another patch for 2k12?

I just watched Chris Smoove's video about the "Big Patch" and early on he says that this is what we have to settle with until 2k13.

Is this correct? 2K isn't gonna change ANYTHING about the game until next year? I didn't get 2k11 until about 7 months after it came out, but a friend told me that there were multiple patches for it. I figured there would be multiple patches for 2k12 as well.

Not sure if anyone knows at this point but don't hold me to that.

[Court_vision]

Re: Will there be another patch for 2k12?

Beluba does the patches.

Beluba has been working on NBA 2K13 for a while now.....

Take that however you want.

IMO it seems fairly clear that NBA 2K12 hasn't been supported post release the way NBA 2K11 was.

Just my opinion, but the DLC took a lot of time away from the team...IMO that woud have been better spent patching 2K12.

DLC = $$$.

Patch fixing doubles, online, AI bugs = customer's happier.

Not blaming 2K...it's the way things are nowadays. I am sure the DLC made them a lot of $$$. Personally, I just don't like the trend of games being released with bugs...these not being fixed, DLC given priority...it's happening in a lot of games.

[eF 5ive]

Re: Will there be another patch for 2k12?

When the nba announced a lockout did 2k just take a vacation? I don't see how they didn't already have rookies ready to be inserted the moment they signed so they could focus on major flaws to patch afterwards. I hope 2k has something special planned for 2k13 considering there's still players not added.

[Flightwhite24]

Re: Will there be another patch for 2k12?

Beluba does the patches.

Beluba has been working on NBA 2K13 for a while now.....

Take that however you want.

IMO it seems fairly clear that NBA 2K12 hasn't been supported post release the way NBA 2K11 was.

Just my opinion, but the DLC took a lot of time away from the team...IMO that woud have been better spent patching 2K12.

DLC = $$$.

Patch fixing doubles, online, AI bugs = customer's happier.

Not blaming 2K...it's the way things are nowadays. I am sure the DLC made them a lot of $$$. Personally, I just don't like the trend of games being released with bugs...these not being fixed, DLC given priority...it's happening in a lot of games.

The gaming industry had changed no doubt than what it used to be.

Even though I don't agree with everyone and there opinion regarding 2K but I can say I think enough issues and disappointment regarding some of the gameplay decisions that it warrants a response from 2K as to what exactly was the direction they took this year regarding some of the major gripes about there game. I am curious will they respond????

[dkrause1971]

Re: Will there be another patch for 2k12?

No benefit to responding for them. If it was decisions and not mistakes with some game-play work then its just a matter of taste. If its mistakes and not decisions, then they are saying we didn't support the game well enough. No upside to addressing either to the community. I personally feel some of the "issues" were decisions made on purpose. Now whether i agree with them, is one thing but it doesn't mean they were lazy to not fix something, means i just do not agree with how they think it should work (fast-breaks for example). Other "issues" i do think they missed. Like the lack of double teams.

As for the DLC comments. This has been mentioned many times before. The DLC has little to no gameplay changes. Its mainly all artwork which is its own department. Its not like the same guys literally do every aspect of the game. Whether you feel the gameplay is good, average or poor, its not on the art guys, which means the DLC has nothing to do with it.

I hope we see a patch, i just do not think we will. I do not think 2K12 received less support. I believe the game just had further to go in the eyes of those who do not like it as much as they did 2K11.

[Court_vision]

Re: Will there be another patch for 2k12?

I hope we see a patch, i just do not think we will. I do not think 2K12 received less support. I believe the game just had further to go in the eyes of those who do not like it as much as they did 2K11.

The 2K11 patch was outstanding...it transformed the game from a 7.5 type title to a strong 9.5. Developers were frequently conversing and just about all issues were addressed.

Conversely, 2K12 came out with a number of issues...and the patch basically fixed fast breaks to a degree and not a lot else. A number of glaring things were left out / ignored.

It's still a really solid game and I enjoy it...a solid 8.0 / 10 game. It probably could have been a 9.5 + with a stronger patch, but that seems unlikely.

[anonex]

Re: Will there be another patch for 2k12?

As long as the PC version gets its patch, I don't care what could possibly happen.

[spankdatazz22]

Re: Will there be another patch for 2k12?

The 2K11 patch was outstanding...it transformed the game from a 7.5 type title to a strong 9.5. Developers were frequently conversing and just about all issues were addressed.

Conversely, 2K12 came out with a number of issues...and the patch basically fixed fast breaks to a degree and not a lot else. A number of glaring things were left out / ignored.

Now the complaints are about a lack of support/patches? Maybe I'm wrong, but I remember two for 2K11 - one early and one in November/December, as usual. With 2K12 there was a patch at 2 weeks (which fixed offline studdering and mostly fixed online connectivity), then another short patch in November I think, and the last one in December. I disagree that "all they fixed were fast breaks", because there were a number of improvements from contested jump shots, to improved movement, etc. That is, when the patch(es) seem to be in effect. They made sure NBA Today reflected what would've been the normal NBA schedule before the lockout ended and were able to adjust it to play with the NBA's modified/abbreviated NBA schedule. And while they may disappointed a lot of people with what they've done after the lockout was announced to be over, they were trying to put out updates on an almost daily basis initially.

Either way, not sure why there's this need to be selective about what's occurred. There's a big difference between failing and quitting. They didn't just give up on the title as some of you insinuate. They may not have delivered in the way you wanted them to, but it doesn't seem that's from a lack of effort. I know a lot of you don't want to hear it, but no one should be expecting them to behave in December like it's October when the NBA is normally just spinning up

[Court_vision]

Re: Will there be another patch for 2k12?

Either way, not sure why there's this need to be selective about what's occurred. There's a big difference between failing and quitting. They didn't just give up on the title as some of you insinuate. They may not have delivered in the way you wanted them to, but it doesn't seem that's from a lack of effort. I know a lot of you don't want to hear it, but no one should be expecting them to behave in December like it's October when the NBA is normally just spinning up

As you know, I've bought this title since day one. Like you, I've come to know the team and what they are like. This is the first time I can remember anyway that they've just actively ignored a major issue (complete lack of double teams) and simply let it ride out without responding. I admire your loyalty bro. However, I am just calling it as it is. I've praised them a lot the past few years...but on this one they deserve some criticism IMO.

For a lot of offline players the AI stuff has killed the game. Long termers like Altimus, Nogster etc have all given up. The AI flaws aren't minor.

Personally, they are bearable for me.It just depends on which team you use. The spin post move is absolutely money on any setting I have tried. They normally patch that stuff...this year, for whatever reason, they've decided to move on without public acknowledgment. (All we got is them admitting to Da_Czar they made an error).

[DJ]

Re: Will there be another patch for 2k12?

I am really surprised that 2K has been so quiet with the interaction this year. It seemed like last year they had a better pulse on the community. To not address the double-team issue is a huge oversight. I can live with it, but I understand how much it bothers others, and don't begrudge them for their point of view.

I don't know how much effort putting out another patch that would specifically address that issue would be, so I think at this stage in the game we're just going to have to learn to live with what we have, or just stop playing 2K12 and go back to 2K11.

[foofighter2455]

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As for online, I wouldn't mind if they finished their experimentation with the Online Association in 2k12 as an open beta for 2K13. The OA can't get any worse, so why not implement their changes into this while they work on the new game?

Obviously they can't completely recode the game for 2k12, but they have to be able to make some changes and could test those out now instead of in mid-October again...

[The 24th Letter]

I'm not surprised there won't be another patch...

VERY surprised there wasn't more effort out into the released patch though....seems like they completely ignored the suggestions threads...

I can see why some are frustrated. You've literally had to patch rebounding 3 years in a row....why not put out a game where it's correct from the start? What are we supposed to think about that?

[youALREADYknow]

Re: Will there be another patch for 2k12?

This game needs a roster and playbook overhaul more than a patch, but given the focus on 2K13 already I doubt anyone is spending the man hours necessary to completely re-do the rosters.

I still think the community is misguided and has misplaced anger when it comes to the issues in this game. NBA 2K12 is an A- game engine with a D- configuration.

[spankdatazz22]

Re: Will there be another patch for 2k12?

I admire your loyalty bro. However, I am just calling it as it is. I've praised them a lot the past few years...but on this one they deserve some criticism IMO.

For a lot of offline players the AI stuff has killed the game. Long termers like Altimus, Nogster etc have all given up. The AI flaws aren't minor.

Did you bother to read my post? I probably should've quoted you previous post, but you mentioned that you felt they weren't supporting 2K12 in the same way they supported 2K11. As I've continuously said - if you want to question the level of success or failure at what they attempted to implement, fine. But I don't see how anyone could question their effort. When you're bringing up DLC or saying they didn't attempt to support the game the same way they did 2K11 imo it's a disservice to their effort. All this muddying of the waters with trying to say the DLC and/or Legends kept the game from being what you feel it should be is false imo. Just as I said last night to the people trying to say EA's presence is needed/would've made a huge difference. Even if they didn't succeed at everything they set out to do, I appreciate their effort - because they attempt far more than what most sports game devs attempt to do. I didn't say anything about how well the patches fixed whatever problems you feel exist.