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  • Inexplicitly
    Rookie
    • Feb 2012
    • 7

    #1

    How do I stop the 3's?

    I play online and I always get killed by the Lakers with the 3's (I'm the Knicks).

    The trick my friend does is ...

    He pumps fakes his 3 (I jump and attempt to block) then he moves to his left/right and makes an open 3.

    How do I stop that??
  • Kyle Friend
    Rookie
    • Feb 2012
    • 9

    #2
    Re: How do I stop the 3's?

    Rather than trying to block shots on the perimeter, just keep your hands up.

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    • Goffs
      New Ork Giants
      • Feb 2003
      • 12279

      #3
      Re: How do I stop the 3's?

      I'm keeping an eye on this thread as I'm on an online league where one player has nothing but guards and what OP describes happens a lot!

      What defense should I run when they pull ish like that? Oh and that hands up defense has no effect if the guy knows how the release point for all those guards...all it takes is one shot to make it in and it's pretty much a wrap..

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      • TheKasmar
        Pro
        • Aug 2009
        • 955

        #4
        Re: How do I stop the 3's?

        Dont jump. Use LT + LS in the direction of the offensive player to contest. Play on-ball and dont leave it up to the computer.

        In coaching profiles, turn your defensive pressure high plus select direction pad on defense and pick "pressure shooters". Make sure your help defense isnt to high either. That will cause your defense to leave shooters open.

        All of these changes leave you more vunerable in the paint so adjust accordingly.

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        • Inexplicitly
          Rookie
          • Feb 2012
          • 7

          #5
          Re: How do I stop the 3's?

          Okay, I played him again and no luck!!!!

          I put play tight on ball and deny ball on off ball.

          Derek Fisher, Steve Blake, and Troy Murphy ****ted on me!

          Is it because im doing something wrong? Is it because the knicks defense suck?

          And why the heck is the lane always open for Kobe to dunk/layup???

          Sorry for the rant, really frustrated atm

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          • Arven
            Rookie
            • Sep 2009
            • 83

            #6
            Re: How do I stop the 3's?

            I understand the frustration. I am being crushed online as well (mostly inside, though. My shots fail, ball gets stolen from me, I am being outrebounded, the works).

            Is there any thread here that talks about "don't play video games, play BASKETBALL... online" here? ;-)
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            • cardinalbird5
              MVP
              • Jul 2006
              • 2814

              #7
              Re: How do I stop the 3's?

              Put your settings to the following:

              Coach Profile
              Defensive Pressure: 100
              Help Def: 0

              Go to defensive settings and put everyone's on ball defense to tight and off ball defense to deny ball. Play off the ball or if you play on ball put your hands up when you close by hitting up on the right analog stick towards the player. Once he picks up his dribble keep your hands up until he starts his jump shot then you can jump to try and block it.

              If this doesn't work you just need to step your game up lol.

              BTW how is he getting his 3 point shots. Is he just dribbling down the court and trying to pull up in your face? Is he penetrating in the lane and then dishing off to a 3 point shooter? Or is he running plays and getting his players to come off screens for 3 point shots? Is he posting up on you and kicking it back out? Or are they fast break 3's? Or is he doing neither and just passing the ball to a wing and pump faking until you jump? This is an important question before you mess with your settings.

              If he is beating by penetration then you need to increase your help defense and sag off or play moderate on ball def on the ball handlers so they cannot penetrate on you. If you stop penetration first and foremost he won't have the ability to get his shooters open. I'd put your on ball defense for everyone moderate then off ball defense to deny for the shooters and moderate for everyone else. If you use the constant pressure defense by pressing left on the dpad then Y it pretty much does this for you. I'd put your def pressure and help def to 50-75 in the coach profiles.

              If he is just passing it to a wing and do a billion pump fakes then I'd just play off the ball. Most people on here will be against it,but there is no reason to play on ball def 100 pct. You will get burnt back door and on a lot of isomotion moves. If he is doing this use the settings I first gave you.

              If he is using the post players ( I doubt he is because most people don't know how to) then you have to bring your double team from your weak side or deny the entry pass into the post by bring a weakside defender and standing in front of him. You can still use the settings I gave you for this too.

              If he is running off ball screens (Again I doubt it most players don't take advantage of this) then play off ball and fight through the screens.

              If he is beating you with fastbreak 3's then first cut down your turnovers obviously. Next go to coach profile and put your crash boards to 0 so everyone will get back on defense.

              Let me know if any of this helps.
              Last edited by cardinalbird5; 02-23-2012, 07:04 AM.
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              • ROABS
                Like Father Like son
                • Dec 2006
                • 1071

                #8
                Re: How do I stop the 3's?

                against shooters i put my on ball defense to tight and dont jump when they shoot use lt and hit the right stick up when they are about to release there shot. this should put a hand in there face and disrupt the shot.

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                • Colts18
                  MVP
                  • Feb 2010
                  • 1959

                  #9
                  Re: How do I stop the 3's?

                  Maybe you should stop jumping and instead use the right stick to contest.

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                  • Windy City Blues
                    Banned
                    • Feb 2012
                    • 21

                    #10
                    If your lg doesn't have a on ball rule play off ball

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                    • SwaggerCoach
                      MVP
                      • Oct 2011
                      • 1342

                      #11
                      Re: How do I stop the 3's?

                      You need to play more disciplined defense.

                      Like most people are saying, NEVER JUMP TO BLOCK a 3 PT SHOT. That's a huge no-no in basketball. Use RS to get your hand up. Time it as soon as he's about to release the shot.

                      Also, mix up your defense from time to time. Throw in a 3-2 zone or possibly 1-3-1 until he figures it out. Zones typically leave 3pt shooters open, but if he's burning you from a man-to-man set already, it won't hurt to try this. Also consider double teaming/trapping.

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                      • sword1986
                        Banned
                        • Nov 2011
                        • 1041

                        #12
                        Re: How do I stop the 3's?

                        Look at the entire picture, see who has a high 3PT rating and who doesn't. Speed and Quickness is a factor ... if the 3 Point Shooter sluggish (like Hedo Turkoglu) if so, you can adjust the assignments to Sag Off (Off Ball) and Play Tight (On Ball) and concentrate on another shooter.

                        Play the game out on default coach settings, and make adjustments accordingly.

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                        • STLRams
                          MVP
                          • Aug 2005
                          • 2847

                          #13
                          Re: How do I stop the 3's?

                          Hey, fellas I'm new to 2K online this year, but I've been a offline player for years. So I've had the exact same problem, everyone I play against bomb's 3's on me. Also I can't shoot online for the love of God. A question I have is that are the settings online for shooting set for shot stick timing or real fg%. I play with real fg% offline, never liked shoot stick timing, just personally don't have the time to learn everyone's release point. If it is shot stick timing only online, is there a way I can change the setting to real fg%? If it is unchangable does any have some pointers or advice on how to shoot better online for me? I've played 7 games so far and lost 2 cause I can't shoot well and the other guy is just bombing 3's on me. Please help...

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                          • cardinalbird5
                            MVP
                            • Jul 2006
                            • 2814

                            #14
                            Re: How do I stop the 3's?

                            Originally posted by sword1986
                            Look at the entire picture, see who has a high 3PT rating and who doesn't. Speed and Quickness is a factor ... if the 3 Point Shooter sluggish (like Hedo Turkoglu) if so, you can adjust the assignments to Sag Off (Off Ball) and Play Tight (On Ball) and concentrate on another shooter.

                            Play the game out on default coach settings, and make adjustments accordingly.
                            On a player like Hedo I would do the opposite. I would chase him off the 3 point line and make him drive to the basket. He will be too slow to burn you and if he does your help defense will be there since he is so slow and a poor finisher. I would deny him the ball and play tight on ball. If you sag off then one skip pass and boom he can hit the 3 pointer in your eye. Granted it might be slightly contested, but I'd rather chase him off the 3 point line. Now someone like Jason Richardson I would maybe play moderate on ball and moderate/sag off off ball defense, because I'd be more worried about him driving in on me. Just my 2 cents though. There are different philosophies for everyone.
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                            • cardinalbird5
                              MVP
                              • Jul 2006
                              • 2814

                              #15
                              Re: How do I stop the 3's?

                              Originally posted by STLRams
                              Hey, fellas I'm new to 2K online this year, but I've been a offline player for years. So I've had the exact same problem, everyone I play against bomb's 3's on me. Also I can't shoot online for the love of God. A question I have is that are the settings online for shooting set for shot stick timing or real fg%. I play with real fg% offline, never liked shoot stick timing, just personally don't have the time to learn everyone's release point. If it is shot stick timing only online, is there a way I can change the setting to real fg%? If it is unchangable does any have some pointers or advice on how to shoot better online for me? I've played 7 games so far and lost 2 cause I can't shoot well and the other guy is just bombing 3's on me. Please help...
                              Online is only shot stick timing, but I think you are missing the big picture. If you're open, take quality shots, shoot the ball in the player's hot spots, and use their best abilities then it will increase their chances of making the shot. So in a way, real fg pct is built into the shot stick timing. The timing of the release just benefits you and you are only hurting yourself if you do not use it. Always remember just try to release the X button or shot stick when the player flicks their wrist or at the peak of their jump. It is actually easy to get everyone's shot down except for a select few. As for the 3 point defense, read my post on the first page. Most people online just jack up 3's with no ball movement. I'd recommend always going to your coach profile before the game put def pressure to 100. Then either in the game or in pause menu go to defensive settings and deny the shooters the ball and play tight on ball on them. Or you can simply use the pressure shooters defense by hitting left on the d-pad then the A button on xbox or X for PS3.
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