TOO SIM???

[RunTellThat]

I ask myself sometimes, am I "TOO SIM"? I hold 2k to a standard not seen anywhere else. Not saying noone else does. It's just I've been in so many leagues, ran a few and played millions of 2k gamers. I take my 2K'ing very serious, lol i call myself the Larry Brown of it. It's very hard for me to enjoy myself, ranked games are a catastrophe. Most leagues are advertised as sim, but guys will have one player averaging 30-40 ppg on 7-8 minutes per game. and there is good amount of senior owners that take advantage of exploits. But maybe it isn't them, maybe im just too dang sim!!!
Here's what I follow naturally in ranked, OA, Myplayer and even Offline verse:

• On Ball D, with man to man and zone (only 2-3)
• Only use turbo when, accelerating to the basket (after beating the defender), use to beat a press and on a fastbreak. An i dont usually use going towards basket because it draws extra contact.
• Lead passes only come accidental or in pick and roll
• Fastbreaking on turnovers, ball pushing when pressed
• And in OAs i never try to stack teams
• These are just a few...

[tetoleetd]

Re: TOO SIM???

this is the problem a lot of sim people have....they think too much about being sim.

just dont do cheesy ish, get all your teammates involved in the game and play the game. its not that complicated.

[Vni]

Re: TOO SIM???

I was in a sim league where you would fit perfectly.

No more than 50% points in the paint, fastbreaks included.
Two players can't combine for more of 35 shots.
Don't force fastbreaks.
Max 20 attempts from 3 points land.
Don't abuse up & under.
On ball D at all time, you may run zone but you should run man to man most of the time.

There where some other rules but nothing fun breaking.

10 minutes quarter.

It's sim but not too sim. We're still there to have fun. Mostly we woudn't bother checking stats too much because there where only good people in that OA. Had some great time there, hope it returns with 2K13.

[RunTellThat]

Re: TOO SIM???

this is the problem a lot of sim people have....they think too much about being sim.

just dont do cheesy ish, get all your teammates involved in the game and play the game. its not that complicated.

Well maybe i shouldve gave more detail. In associations i never have a top 5 leading scorer. Team averages tops in total assist, and my focus is on playing efficient defense. So it is that complicated, the game was for years considered "#1 Rated Basketball Simulation". An d to comment on the "dont do cheey ish", i think it preety much makes one sim if he doesn't do those things, right?

Vni, im not patient enough for 10 minutes lol

[tetoleetd]

Re: TOO SIM???

Well maybe i shouldve gave more detail. In associations i never have a top 5 leading scorer. Team averages tops in total assist, and my focus is on playing efficient defense. So it is that complicated, the game was for years considered "#1 Rated Basketball Simulation". An d to comment on the "dont do cheey ish", i think it preety much makes one sim if he doesn't do those things, right?

Vni, im not patient enough for 10 minutes lol

im trying to say it takes the fun out of the game if you have a set list of things you must do to be sim. you've seen real NBA games, you understand sim play. just play and dont think about it. you'll have more fun.

[JerzeyReign]

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I like rules because some guys don't get it. If you are sim then you don't really have to stare at the rules because thats how you play.

Out of the rules Vni and RTD listed, I only have an issue with the 35 combined shots with two players since my offense looks to get my first scoring option 20 shots and the second at least 15 so I'll be always at that mark or close to it. I also don't like the no sprint button rule -- if someone is running an actual offense I wouldn't care. A rule I like is that the 'quick isolation' can only be ran on the last possession of a quarter.

[Vni]

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Out of the rules Vni and RTD listed, I only have an issue with the 35 combined shots with two players since my offense looks to get my first scoring option 20 shots and the second at least 15 so I'll be always at that mark or close to it.

Honestly rules where more for the newcommers. I would never check the stats as long as the game was legit, fun & sim.

[Ramboooo]

Re: TOO SIM???

First you gotta ask yourself what sim even means.

Nowhere did I see in the "book of sim" lol that man on-ball D = sim, etc.

Where should you look to see if something is sim? Easy...The real NBA, real basketball. Not that complicated. If more did that instead of looking to some made up "rules of sim" or some made up thing where "offline association = sim" and "online = cheese," they'd probably have more fun with the game.

[JerzeyReign]

Re: TOO SIM???

On ball D is to ensure both players get the immersion of playing another human.

[Vni]

Re: TOO SIM???

First you gotta ask yourself what sim even means.

Nowhere did I see in the "book of sim" lol that man on-ball D = sim, etc.

Where should you look to see if something is sim? Easy...The real NBA, real basketball. Not that complicated. If more did that instead of looking to some made up "rules of sim" or some made up thing where "offline association = sim" and "online = cheese," they'd probably have more fun with the game.

Well rules are there to prevent people from abusing exploit & glitches. In 2K12 it's really needed.

On ball D is just obvious when I play in an online association. I don't want to play against the computer, just seems logical to me.

[tetoleetd]

Re: TOO SIM???

personally, i like to freestyle and i rarely call plays. this is mostly because 2k12 didnt do so hot with plays. a lot of broken plays and plays that just are not effective. i also seem to miss an absurd amount of open shots after running a successful play. my offense is still balanced and realistic though and i pass the ball around a lot as i work for an open shot.

i agree that on ball D and man defense should be used most of the time if being sim is your goal.

i dont get into the points in the paint stuff and the cap on shots u can take with one player. there are a lot of games where a team will dominate the paint, it just happens and usually due to bad defense. and there are a lot of nba players that take ALOT of shots. i mean a lot.

like you guys have said, you dont need these rules and stats to decide if a game is fair and sim. you can just tell by playing.

[Ramboooo]

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Ya vs known exploits rules are good to have. But other stuff that has no real basis for being sim (on ball D) is where it gets mixed up and "sim" is something we create instead having a basis in the real Nba or real basketball. I'm not clicking on Steve Nash to guard anyone lol... that's not unsim that's just smart basketball. And unless it's an exploit, the mentality in the real NBA is to "keep doing it until they prove they can stop it" - so that mentality should translate to videogames as well. You guys should play teamup -- more human on ball defenders

[d11king]

Re: TOO SIM???

Yeah if I ever join a league, I don't read into the rules that much, mainly because I'm very picky on leagues I join anyway, but moreso, when I play 2K, I just play basketball. I know the game, I know how it should be played, I've never used an exploit, and I rarely use the same move more then twice throughout the course o the game.

The only thing I hate about playing online is that is seems like I'm the only person who plays realistic. I don't like saying the word sim anymore, it just seems that word has lost its value by non-sim users tossing the word out, it's like those people who consider Maybach Music, Hip-Hop smh, but that's another subject.

I don't think there is anything wrong with being "too-sim" as you've called it out. There aren't many leagues that I know of that seem that way, they seem to have the gameplay rules down, but the trading is ridiculous with certain users trading up to 5x in a season, or swapping franchise players, etc. all of these things have just caused me to stick to myplayer and occasional team up games on another website with players that play like me.

It's an underground world. I feel as if there needs to be some kind of secret society of players who play just like this, just so we can enjoy 2K because the problem is when users play 2K, they 2K in a sense of a video game and not play basketball.

[Vni]

Re: TOO SIM???

I'm not clicking on Steve Nash to guard anyone lol...

I don't get the point.

[RaptorMania]

That's why I stopped playing in leagues after 2k9, all the rules ruin the game. You can't even have any fun and like you said the newcomers break the rules and some of the seniors trick the new ones into doing stupid trades.

Stay offline, you'll enjoy the game much more.