Re: Old school raptors team
I certainly did not use the 76ers as a comparison. Instead, my comparison was that of the 1991 Golden State Warriors. Your reasons for the inclusion of the 1991 Warriors were as follows:
1. "Chris Webber had skills for a big man that had rarely been seen at that time in the game"
2. "One of the first "branded" nicknames in the "new basketball" era"
3. "They were exciting and relevant"
I do not believe the inclusion of a classic team because a player that didn't play for that squad had skills, the team had a nickname, and they were exciting holds any more depth than the reasons a 2000 or 2001 Raptors team inclusion may have:
1. The Raptors were also exciting and relevant. They were a hot ticket in the NBA, they were rightfully recognized as being a team on the rise, one that could (and did) make some noise in the playoffs.
2. They featured two of the most popular players in NBA basketball over the past 15 years, perhaps more famous than Run TMC itself.
3. The success of the team requested in this thread matches or eclipses that of a number of other classic squads already included in 2K12 ('85 Bucks, '91 Warriors, '86 Hawks, '86 Bulls, '90 Cavs, '93 Hornets, and '94 Nuggets). Moreover, many of the teams mentioned were some of the most exciting classic teams to use in NBA 2K12, despite not being teams that made deep playoff runs.
4. The team's star, Vince Carter, was arguably the most exciting player in basketball during that era, perhaps its most popular, and hands down the most spectacular dunker to ever step foot on an NBA basketball court.
To believe the reasons cited for Golden State's inclusion in 2K12 (an inclusion I welcomed with open arms) are somehow more valid than the brief set provided in Toronto's regard, would perhaps insinuate a fault in logic. Further, I feel as though the thousands of views garnered on YouTube of videos gamers uploaded of their own home-made 2K12 classic '00 Raptors would seem to suggest it's not just a handful of folks who'd welcome their addition.
Lastly, I'm still not sure I understand why a franchise must have a history of success in order for one of their best teams to be considered worthy of being included as a throwback team in NBA 2K. Instead, I think the successful teams of a franchise that struggles should be especially celebrated. It's a special moment in history when a team is able to break through and create league wide hype in a city that had traditionally struggled up to that point.
Finally, to state once more, I'm not a Toronto Raptors fan. Instead, I was a fan of Vince Carter, because even though he dunked over one of my favorite players and my favorite team in game-winning fashion, he was a game changer and a league changer. It's a testament to how relevant both Carter and the Raptors were in the early 2000's and even now.
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If nothing else, how could including a team featuring the game's best dunker of all time ever be a bad idea?
I certainly did not use the 76ers as a comparison. Instead, my comparison was that of the 1991 Golden State Warriors. Your reasons for the inclusion of the 1991 Warriors were as follows:
1. "Chris Webber had skills for a big man that had rarely been seen at that time in the game"
2. "One of the first "branded" nicknames in the "new basketball" era"
3. "They were exciting and relevant"
I do not believe the inclusion of a classic team because a player that didn't play for that squad had skills, the team had a nickname, and they were exciting holds any more depth than the reasons a 2000 or 2001 Raptors team inclusion may have:
1. The Raptors were also exciting and relevant. They were a hot ticket in the NBA, they were rightfully recognized as being a team on the rise, one that could (and did) make some noise in the playoffs.
2. They featured two of the most popular players in NBA basketball over the past 15 years, perhaps more famous than Run TMC itself.
3. The success of the team requested in this thread matches or eclipses that of a number of other classic squads already included in 2K12 ('85 Bucks, '91 Warriors, '86 Hawks, '86 Bulls, '90 Cavs, '93 Hornets, and '94 Nuggets). Moreover, many of the teams mentioned were some of the most exciting classic teams to use in NBA 2K12, despite not being teams that made deep playoff runs.
4. The team's star, Vince Carter, was arguably the most exciting player in basketball during that era, perhaps its most popular, and hands down the most spectacular dunker to ever step foot on an NBA basketball court.
To believe the reasons cited for Golden State's inclusion in 2K12 (an inclusion I welcomed with open arms) are somehow more valid than the brief set provided in Toronto's regard, would perhaps insinuate a fault in logic. Further, I feel as though the thousands of views garnered on YouTube of videos gamers uploaded of their own home-made 2K12 classic '00 Raptors would seem to suggest it's not just a handful of folks who'd welcome their addition.
Lastly, I'm still not sure I understand why a franchise must have a history of success in order for one of their best teams to be considered worthy of being included as a throwback team in NBA 2K. Instead, I think the successful teams of a franchise that struggles should be especially celebrated. It's a special moment in history when a team is able to break through and create league wide hype in a city that had traditionally struggled up to that point.
Finally, to state once more, I'm not a Toronto Raptors fan. Instead, I was a fan of Vince Carter, because even though he dunked over one of my favorite players and my favorite team in game-winning fashion, he was a game changer and a league changer. It's a testament to how relevant both Carter and the Raptors were in the early 2000's and even now.
<iframe width="420" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/3SnQDNUte8E" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
If nothing else, how could including a team featuring the game's best dunker of all time ever be a bad idea?
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