Finisher...

[nova91]

it's damn near impossible for CPU players on my team or me in MC to make a layup in the the paint with a little bit of contact without that skill.

Career 1:
Kevin Love gets a mismatch with CJ Watson on him in the post, he backs him down, get him under the rim, turn baseline for the layup off glass, Watson jumps late making a little contact with Love and Love misses the shot.

Career 2:
Roy Hibbert posts up Derozan on the left block, I pass him the ball and he goes up for a baby hook Derozan stands there and makes some contact with Hibbert he changes the shot and misses it.

With my SF I get Duncan on the perimeter, I have 85 speed and 90 quickness, it should be an easy blow by for a layup(91) or dunk(87)(94 SIT) I get the blow by but Duncan is able to recover a bit as I get to the paint and raise up for a dunk I get little contact from Duncan from the side instead of finishing the the dunk my does a double clutch layup-push shot animation and bricks off the side of the rim.

[weeman2525]

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Yeah, you can't make anything inside if there's even a little bit of contact without finisher. What really gets me, is when you have the open layup, but the defender is kind of there, so you're sucked into that layup animation where you fade back. That shot never falls, and really makes me mad considering I shouldn't go to the animation in the first place.

I finally got finisher for my player, and it's crazy how much it helps.

[MrWise33]

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Yeah, you can't make anything inside if there's even a little bit of contact without finisher. What really gets me, is when you have the open layup, but the defender is kind of there, so you're sucked into that layup animation where you fade back. That shot never falls, and really makes me mad considering I shouldn't go to the animation in the first place.

I finally got finisher for my player, and it's crazy how much it helps.

I hate that fade layup animation, it seems like it never goes in or gets blocked even with finisher

[IYoDa]

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Finisher does nothing at all.
At least not for me. ( I have $$$ and maxed myplayer out with bought VC)
Almost 99 everything and still don't make layups. Even with finisher level 3

[Advanced]

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Agreed, Brook lopez (A top offensive center) misses stuff he hits while sleeping in rl because of a tiny bit of defence, even though he has a clear shot most of the time. Just the presence of someone in the paint is enough.

On the other hand.... he is 50x better at defending in 2K then he is at rl (Horrible in RL) so I guess 2K makes up for it in that sense.

[gator3guy]

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I noticed this as well. 99% of the time you get bumped you miss and that shouldn't be the case. Certainly, the probability should be lowered with contact but not as low as it is currently. Finisher and acrobat definitely help, and maybe that was there intention. I hate when I'm on a fast break with a cpu defender back and he clips my guy ever so slightly and clank. Euro, same thing. Again, I don't want contact layups to be the norm, but just adjusted a little bit maybe so that every time I get contact I don't know I missed before the shot even goes up. Of course, they would need to lower perimeter shot success to even out fg %.

[captainamerica10]

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I had a different problem here, I've got two careers, one as a scoring sf, one as an athletic sf. Both have finisher, and with the scorer, it's tremendously helpful, but with the athlete, I finally just unequipped it, because he was clearly worse at layups with it. Anybody had a similar issue?

[thompsanne]

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Finisher does nothing at all.

[gator3guy]

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Finisher does nothing at all.

I beg to differ.

[nova91]

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In MC, finisher for opposing CPU players is ridiculous, if they have it they rarely miss layups in the paint. Kemba Walker attacks the basket gets a little contact and blows his layup, same with Henderson, Sessions, and MKG, Thomas raises up for a dunk, gets grazed and a drastically alters his shot and misses instead of dunking it like he would in most occassions. My rating SIT, layup, dunk, strength should dictate how well I finish in traffic, the finisher sig skill slightly increase the chance I have to make a layup through contact.

[nova91]

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I had a different problem here, I've got two careers, one as a scoring sf, one as an athletic sf. Both have finisher, and with the scorer, it's tremendously helpful, but with the athlete, I finally just unequipped it, because he was clearly worse at layups with it. Anybody had a similar issue?

Did you also have acrobat equipped? In MC, I have noticed Kemba Walker take funky looking, unnecessary layups with it, but when I replaced it with finisher he rarely took awkward looking layup without there being a heavy shot blocking presence in the paint.

[Riggs]

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Guys I am making a copy and paste of a post I've made on the 2k forums and neogaf, and in the possible bugs thread here on OS.

I really believe Finisher is bugged at 3/3. On 1/3 and 2/3 it seems to work.

Here is the post, it's long but it has lots of details.

Can any My Player experts PLEASE tell me what the hell is going on with my contact lay ups?

I cannot make any .... the slightest bump of an opposing player causes the ball to miss 95% of the time.

I am an athletic point guard.

Playstyle in this order is Cutter/Iso/Mid/P&B Handler

Layup package was All star Guard ... tried Jordan / C.Paul / D.wade currently. Makes no difference.

Here's the kicker though ....

(These are all maxed)

Layup/99
Shot in traffic/99
Shot mid/close/99
Shoot off dribble/99
Dunk/99
Strength maxed to 70
Emotion/99
Vertical/99
Signature Moves
Finisher 3/3
Acrobat 3/3
Shot creator 3/3
Dead Eye 3/3
Ankle Breaker 3/3


I can play D. Rose or R. Westbrook which are point guards, and I do the sickest lay ups. Especially with Westbrook I can finish the layup most of the time even with very rough contact.

I compared my stats to Westbrook and Rose, and I am higher then them in everything that has anything to do with lay ups. (And pretty much everything else to be honest)

Now I searched around the net and other scoring type point guards in my player are complaining of the exact same problem with lay ups. The slightest contact and it miss's , kind of ridiculous with how good my stats are. And I definitely know how to play this game so pretty sure it's not a control issue, but it could be. Just odd since I can do contact lay ups no problem with Rose / Westbrook (Nevermind Durant or Wade, but I left them out since they are not Point Guards.) Yet My Player miss's 90% of every lay up with the slightest contact even though I have 3/3 Finisher and 3/3 Acrobat, with the max'd stats I listed above

My friend is a SG with way lower stats, and he finishes contact lay ups just fine. So this is even stranger to me ....

Is 2K basically forcing my player Point Guards just to be shooters? Scoring is not a problem, I can drop 60 points a game if I want to be a ball hogging jerk. I am just tired of Jump Shots and the occasional dunk (I am only 6'3 but it happens often with max dunk and vert).

Please guys any advice would really be appreciated, sorry for the novel above I just wanted to describe everything I have tried. Really hope someone can help me this is beyond frustrating.


Ok so I hope you guys could read all that. I really think Finisher is broke on 3/3, it's the only thing that makes sense at this point. Me and my friend ran down every single stat in the game, and layup packages to boot .... the only thing I can think is that Finisher is borked on 3/3. His is 2/3 and he is like Westbrook or Rose on the layups with light/medium contact. My stats blow his out of the water and I can't make a light/medium contact layup to save my life.

Again the only possible conclusion I can come to is that Finisher is simply screwed up at 3/3 on My Player. I hope 2k can address this, me and my friend have tested this pretty extensively and think we are really onto something, but who knows .... all I know is with my max'd stats there is no way that I should be missing 90% of all layups with medium to light contact.

[Riggs]

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Really? Not one reply? I've been testing this all night. With finisher on (3/3) I cannot make any layups with light to medium contact. With it off, I make a ton of them (Still have acrobatic).

1) Finisher 3/3 is bugged

2) Acrobatic and Finish are some how bugging each other out

Can anyone please help? I am not the only one out there noticing this.

[thedoob]

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Really? Not one reply? I've been testing this all night. With finisher on (3/3) I cannot make any layups with light to medium contact. With it off, I make a ton of them (Still have acrobatic).

1) Finisher 3/3 is bugged

2) Acrobatic and Finish are some how bugging each other out

Can anyone please help? I am not the only one out there noticing this.

I've left mine on 2/3 because I've seen you post this before. Sorry, not willing to put my player in the shed and test it, but most definitely have taken your advice not to grab 3/3 on finisher.

[westwood]

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this would make sense, i play an ATH sf and early on when i had lvl1 finisher i was always dunking through and on people and now with 3/3 its almost impossible to make any shot with any contact at all. damn i really wish id of seen this earlier.