Does the lack of Signature Dribbling hurt 2k13's authenticity?

[alabamarob]

The lack of signature dribbling really hurts the authenticity of 2k13. The dribble stick is a good feature theoretically. However, it is implemented poorly and makes the game "SLIGHTLY" and1ish.

Signature dribbling was not only aesthetically a good thing, it was important to the realism of the game. Every average ballhandler in 2k13 is extremely adept at handling the ball, and making quick dribble moves that they were unable to do in earlier versions of 2k (and in real life). The ability to use the dribble stick seamlessly with average dribblers has lowered the importance of using good ball handlers, and has made the ability to drive thru and around good on ball defense far to common.

The overpowered ballhandling in conjunction with the lack of a live ball are 2 things that make offensive play over powered in 2k13.

What do you think?

[drose_fan]

Re: Does the lack of Signature Dribbling hurt 2k13's authenticity?

FINALLY SOMEONE SPEAKS ON THIS!!!!

The lack of signature dribbling really hurts the authenticity of 2k13. The dribble stick is a good feature theoretically. However, it is implemented poorly and makes the game "SLIGHTLY" and1ish.

Signature dribbling was not only aesthetically a good thing, it was important to the realism of the game. Every average ballhandler in 2k13 is extremely adept at handling the ball, and making quick dribble moves that they were unable to do in earlier versions of 2k (and in real life). The ability to use the dribble stick seamlessly with average dribblers has lowered the importance of using good ball handlers, and has made the ability to drive thru and around good on ball defense far to common.

The overpowered ballhandling in conjunction with the lack of a live ball are 2 things that make offensive play over powered in 2k13.

What do you think?

[8KB24]

Re: Does the lack of Signature Dribbling hurt 2k13's authenticity?

Bring back 2K10 dribling moves.

[LoSoisNiCEx414]

Re: Does the lack of Signature Dribbling hurt 2k13's authenticity?

they should base crossovers on the type of moves they actually do. Meaning players like Kyrie Irving,Chris Paul,Brandon Jennings have their own dribble styles that shat should be in the game. Kyrie hits u with fast dribble moves many times between the legs & uses head fakes. Chris Paul uses many headfakes & pull back crossover moves to get the defender to think he will attack the basket. Brandon Jennings uses short fast dribble moves close to the ground to get the defender to get extremely low & of balance. Even a player like Kevin Durant who is tall has a very good crossover, he uses his long arms that often drags the defender when he fakes left then goes right or vise versa, Tracy Mcgrady,Iverson,etc all had unique crossover styles & in 2k13 every player is pretty much able to do the same thing as everyone else. There have been times in 2k a PF or C hits u with a mean crossover & your like huh? Fix that 2k

[WizardJay]

Re: Does the lack of Signature Dribbling hurt 2k13's authenticity?

Yes........

[Optimus James]

Re: Does the lack of Signature Dribbling hurt 2k13's authenticity?

I'm just now realizing this. Hmm...the crossovers I can do with Jennings, I can also do with Shane Battier...

Yeah I agree with OP, they need to revise the ball handling.

[VDusen04]

Re: Does the lack of Signature Dribbling hurt 2k13's authenticity?

I could be completely wrong, but there's a small part of me that feels like 2K may have mentioned that signature dribbling may have had to be scaled back a little (or a lot) this year to accommodate the implementation of their new dribbling system. Again, maybe I'm making that up, but there seemed to be the suggestion that signature dribbling would return, it just had to be simplified to get the new system off the ground.

Either way, I totally agree signature dribbling should be very much improved upon. It's pretty difficult to tell one ball handler from another in 2K13. And some of the very common moves for 2K players don't seem at all common in real life. For instance, the behind-the-back dribble seen at 2:17 of the clip below is seemingly executed by the computer at least once a game, as if it's a routine maneuver like a simple cross, when it reality it's relatively rare to pull off.

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[Goffs]

Re: Does the lack of Signature Dribbling hurt 2k13's authenticity?

It's the first year they added right stick dribbling so they had to compromise the signature stuff. Mike mentioned awhile back that he had more plans for the right stick dribbles...

[alabamarob]

Re: Does the lack of Signature Dribbling hurt 2k13's authenticity?

2k did say that signature dribbling would take a step back for a year to add the dribble stick. However, they said that there would still be a difference between the ballhandlers in the speed and effectiveness of each ball handler and their moves.

My point is that in a dribble penetration league (which the NBA is) there must be a way to distinugish Chris Paul from Caron Butler, and I don't see that in 2k13. This really hurts the game.

2k needs to make sure that it is in 2k14. The dribble tendencies of the players dribble moves has absolutely no affect on the game at all, and every average ballhandler is Kyrie.

I set up this thread to see if there is a difference in ballhandling that I was missing, and to get others opinions on the effects of the generic dribbling in 2k13.

[Phreezy P]

Re: Does the lack of Signature Dribbling hurt 2k13's authenticity?

They need to bring back the Shammgod. That was my favourite crossover in 2k10.

I hate how every player under 6"4 can do that half spin behind the back crossover. It's like they are playing in the Drew league or something. I have never seen any NBA player do that crossover in a real game before.

There also needs to be more customization. As of now it is height based. 6"4 and below is the most effective set of crossovers, 6"10 230 and below is another set, and 6"10 230 and above is the slow ones. Chuck Hayes can easily break down half the players on isolation in this game, which should never, ever be able to happen.

[stillfeelme]

Re: Does the lack of Signature Dribbling hurt 2k13's authenticity?

I have to agree live ball that is only triggered when you do a spin move into a defender. With the handles given to the offense just gives too much of an advantage to the offense. Hopefully in 2K14 we get a better implementation of signature dribbling with the dribble stick and a way to separate elite handles.

1. I want to see only Crawford handle a seperate way. Where you really have to respect his dribble

2. Irving should have specific sizeups

Hopefully they have guys coming or already motion captured sig dribbling.

[JasonMartin]

Re: Does the lack of Signature Dribbling hurt 2k13's authenticity?

the behind-the-back dribble seen at 2:17 of the clip below is seemingly executed by the computer at least once a game, as if it's a routine maneuver like a simple cross, when it reality it's relatively rare to pull off.

CPU cheesing at it's finest. They need to take that out. I saw one guy doing this IRL and I think it was an indiana pacers players against Tony Parker or something.

(Stephenson vs Parker http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cLBVomNU__U and it's not even behind the back but close)

Go play against the Lakers, Nash with the ball, shot clock ticking, 10-9-8-7 - nash does the behind the back dribble and cheeses his way into the paint because you can't defend it because of sliding - 6-5-4-3- passes it to the outside to Howard-2- animation of Howard travelling 13 feet in 0.1 second - 1 dunk- goal.

[Phreezy P]

Re: Does the lack of Signature Dribbling hurt 2k13's authenticity?

CPU cheesing at it's finest. They need to take that out. I saw one guy doing this IRL and I think it was an indiana pacers players against Tony Parker or something.

(Stephenson vs Parker http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cLBVomNU__U and it's not even behind the back but close)

Go play against the Lakers, Nash with the ball, shot clock ticking, 10-9-8-7 - nash does the behind the back dribble and cheeses his way into the paint because you can't defend it because of sliding - 6-5-4-3- passes it to the outside to Howard-2- animation of Howard travelling 13 feet in 0.1 second - 1 dunk- goal.

That isn't even close.

[Ramboooo]

Re: Does the lack of Signature Dribbling hurt 2k13's authenticity?

Dribbling kicks a** this year compared to past games imo. Way more intuitive, responsive, and lets us be creative and spontaneous with stringing moves together. That said, sure it could be fine tuned like you guys said like toning it down for the big guys and making it look more like the real players.

[PJBrownHeat]

Re: Does the lack of Signature Dribbling hurt 2k13's authenticity?

For me it is still difficult to have a good feeling with Jordan to know excatly which dribble using according to the situation.

the only good dribble and easy dribble to use is the spin dribble but he didn't use this dribble a lot.