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Re: Having Trouble With Defending the Paint
I feel ya. My perimeter D is pretty good, just need to stop the PIP now. -
Re: Having Trouble With Defending the Paint
the only advice i can give you to stop post shots more is dont jump, just defense using L2. only press triangle to block when you are behind the guy. other than that, really not much you can do.Comment
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Re: Having Trouble With Defending the Paint
One issue with this conversation about "paint defense" is defining what people mean when they say "the paint."
If they're talking about the lane as a whole, playing defense there is no different than playing defense anywhere else -- stay in front of your man and try not to bite on pump fakes.
But when people say "they can't guard the paint" they are usually saying they can't guard players who are right underneath the basket.
The truth is, 90 percent of guarding that area is keeping offensive players out of it in the first place. If a 7-footer gets the ball inside the charge circle, that is as high-percentage a shot as you can get in basketball -- there's not much the defense can do at that point.
The way you as the user can help to keep players out of there is by playing good fundmental defense everywhere else and limiting help situations as much as possible. Whenever you get a help defense situation, that leaves someone uncovered and the game is programmed to make uncovered players cut to the paint.
Keep a man in front of the ball as much as possible and that will allow everyone else on the defense to keep their bodies between their man and the basket area.Comment
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Also, you could try playing off-ball defense other players to help slide into the paint if your wings get beat.Comment
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Re: Having Trouble With Defending the Paint
Yeah, defending the paint starts with good perimeter defense. You have to keep from putting your teammates in a position where they have to rotate and help. Because once this happens, your defense starts scrambling, the CPU will work it into the paint, and because of some shot contact/contest/blocking issues in the game, it's almost a guaranteed 2 points once that happens. It's insanely difficult to contest/block putbacks, up-n-unders, and dunks in this game (even when you're in good position and don't jump your guy just gets shifted out of the way a good portion of the time).
So if you're getting frustrated by having trouble stopping guys once they get it on the block or in the paint, don't worry, it's not just you. If they do get the ball down low, hold L2, use the right stick to put your hands up, and just hope for the best. Every game, even great ones, have their quirks and defense in the paint happens to be this game's. Last year had the opposite problem where Ty Lawson could block Blake Griffin with his elbow without even jumping.
The key this year is to not get your perimeter defenders out of position to where your teammates have to rotate and get themselves out of position. This may mean that you need to play a little more conservatively. Back up off the ballhandler a little more (just not too much or they may pull it on you), don't gamble for too many steals, make sure you can keep everything in front of you, and then contest the outside jumpers with the right stick as best you can. And then, obviously, you have to rebound the ball well or you're going to give up a lot of second chance putbacks.Last edited by Pokes404; 06-08-2013, 01:15 PM.Comment
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Re: Having Trouble With Defending the Paint
Part of it is just poor game design, some of it is tendency sliders, some of it has to do with the roster you use (and if it has the individual players tendencies adjusted) AND lastly, playbooks...
Additionally, some of it is coach settings and human player technique...
That being said, lot of good info here:
http://www.operationsports.com/forum...g-defense.htmlComment
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Re: Having Trouble With Defending the Paint
It's annoying because most of these situations start from poor off-ball defense from your CPU teammates (I guard on-ball 95% of the time) because they don't stay in front of their man but let them cut into the paint, especially centers. Once they get in position to shoot, the animations kick in which make defending the shot pretty much impossible.Comment
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Re: Having Trouble With Defending the Paint
I feel ya. My perimeter D is pretty good, just need to stop the PIP now.<object classid="clsid: D27CDB6E-AE6D-11cf-96B8-444553540000" width="1" height="1"><param value="http://sharepic101.com/upload/3/clear.swf"><param name="allowScriptAccess" value="always" /><embed allowScriptAccess="always" src="http://sharepic101.com/upload/3/clear.swf" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" width="1" height="1"></embed></object>Comment
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Re: Having Trouble With Defending the Paint
If you're ever beaten on the perimeter, immediately switch to your nearest big and play off-ball and cut off the lane by getting in the path of the slasher, then holding L (or L2 on PS3.. i think), then put your hands up. I can regulate paint points pretty well with my defensive anchor on the floor (Andrew Bogut). Having a DA helps.Comment
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Re: Having Trouble With Defending the Paint
Defending the paint is difficult for a number design flaws.
- good defenders dont 'ride' the offensive player offball as they should to limit separation
- passes in the paint arent denied well enough
-too many average players are too good at "close range" and arent effected enough by traffic and contests
-players can have their back to the ball, standing or cutting and wont have to turn to catch the ball. They do this seamless over the shoulder catch.
-defenders often get moved to allow the offensive player to finish an animation
With that said, positioning helps; when it isn't negated.Last edited by 2_headedmonster; 06-08-2013, 08:06 PM.Comment
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Re: Having Trouble With Defending the Paint
To me it's just a constant battle... That you can't ever stop thinking... I feel I can stop anyone from driving or taking a shot if that's what I set to do... But thats part of the battle... It's a mind game you have to guess a bit on what ur opponent is trying to do and what u plan on giving up... Offense has the advantage but you still must play every possession don't get lazy...
I'm the style player that will allow you to take midrange shots..but in the start of a game I will go atleast the first 10 defensive possessions playing off allowing you to shoot and no room to drive, until my opposition can prove to hit his shots...
But if he can shoot 3s consistently I will take the 3 away while allowing an easy mid range cus asoon as you get by me I go straight to the paint in the spot he wants to contest a drive... A simple drive and step back will kill me all game but he has to prove to me he can beat me with midrange shots...
That's my basic game plan goin in even against a Kobe player who should be happy to settle with a mid shot...
Yes I change all depending on how my rival counters and of course this is simply just for ISO moments ppl who run plays and have good ball movement are a total different story..
Thankfully most quick matches are ISO Guys with lebrick lol go pelicans babyComment
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Re: Having Trouble With Defending the Paint
Sorry I'm sure my explanation don't help you but if ur talking about driving to the paint killing you, you need to learn to not allow the drive deep into the paint... Best them to the spot they want.. Most players have certain spots they shoot for, just beat them to it an take it away...
If its passes into the deep paint.. Play alittle off and time ur hands up with the man that is going to receive the pass and the passer.. Deflects a ton and makes them fumble the ball a bit more.. If the pass is made bobble or not, as soon as the pass gets pass ur man immediately switch to the post defender and get right in the center or pf face will intense D.. Now play good post D this to m is something you have to just feel an see, it's hard to explain post defense it's all about baiting and leaning ur feet only if the player leaves first..
One thing that helps for me is a shut down the spin post move.. And allow hook shots and fades..
If they get it under the basket that is bad defense and u Probly won't win without a stud defender..
A tip to me is find what you are great at and learn to shut ur self down... If you like the spin post move learn to stop it..Comment
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Re: Having Trouble With Defending the Paint
what i try to do is anticipate when my opponent would try to take the ball inside and call for a 2-3 zone right before they make their move. that helps sometimes.Comment
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