Preliminary Association Plans

**KyotoCarl** · 07-21-2013, 11:54 PM

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Are you going for realism or just trying to get together a superstar team? I don't think these trades are very realistic.

**mitch820** · 07-22-2013, 12:40 AM

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Immediately trade Beasley, Brown and Marshall for whatever I can get.

**zimmtron** · 07-22-2013, 03:08 AM

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Evan turner off the bench behind Hayward ???????¿¿¿¿¿

**turty11** · 07-22-2013, 03:29 AM

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this is the most unrealistic team/plan ive ever seen outside adding as many superstars to your team as you want

**TeamBuilder** · 07-22-2013, 09:59 AM

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Originally posted by KyotoCarl

Are you going for realism or just trying to get together a superstar team? I don't think these trades are very realistic.

Originally posted by turty11

this is the most unrealistic team/plan ive ever seen outside adding as many superstars to your team as you want

I wasn't initially seeking input on my Association and I was more interested in seeing what other people were planning for their Associations, but okay, I'll bite. What part of those two trades do you deem unrealistic, and how would you improve on them?

**BallIsLife2** · 07-22-2013, 10:09 AM

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Originally posted by TeamBuilder

I wasn't initially seeking input on my Association and I was more interested in seeing what other people were planning for their Associations, but okay, I'll bite. What part of those two trades do you deem unrealistic, and how would you improve on them?

Evan Turner for Jarett Jack? That's not very realistic.
If you want a franchise big man like Cousins, you are going to be giving up a lot of pieces to the Kings, like a couple first-rounders and young talent to replace Cousins.

**TeamBuilder** · 07-22-2013, 10:34 AM

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Originally posted by BallIsLife2

Evan Turner for Jarett Jack? That's not very realistic.
If you want a franchise big man like Cousins, you are going to be giving up a lot of pieces to the Kings, like a couple first-rounders and young talent to replace Cousins.

Perhaps you're right. Tell me if my justifications seem illogical.

1) Jarrett Jack and any necessary draft picks (likely includes a 1st rounder) for Evan Turner. Logic being that the 76ers are rebuilding and Turner's rookie contract is almost up. He's in line for a hefty increase that may not justify his ability. I assume the game will have him signing for around 9-10 million per year for 4/5 years. That's a lot of money to commit to a player whose talent registers as an above-average second option on an average team. The 76ers get a more affordable contract and backup point guard in Jack, financial flexibility moving forward, and a 1st round pick.

2) The exchange of Cousins for Bynum, Varajao, and T. Thompson is a trade I think the Kings would make in a heartbeat (with cap throw-ins Fredette, Salmons, and J. Thompson). The return on superstar players hasn't been that impressive (see Dwight Howard trade) and the Kings would be getting three established front line players. T. Thompson is still growing, and when healthy, Bynum and Varajao are top 7 centers in the NBA (and in the video game world, Bynum's knees aren't much of a concern).

That's my logic. Perhaps it's illogical. If it is, talk me out of it.

**s_dot8701** · 07-22-2013, 11:36 AM

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Just do a fantasy draft and be done with it.

**turty11** · 07-22-2013, 01:29 PM

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every single part of your trades are unrealistic.

it boils down to bynum for cousins, and hayward for waiters pretty much....and thats just lol

**TeamBuilder** · 07-22-2013, 02:34 PM

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Originally posted by turty11

every single part of your trades are unrealistic.

it boils down to bynum for cousins, and hayward for waiters pretty much....and thats just lol

I'll ask you again to please provide details about why these trades are unrealistic. Can you defend your comment suggesting that Anderson Varajao and Tristan Thompson are "boil away" material? Their player efficiency ratings and statistics certainly don't identify them as such.

Are you making an argument that Dion Waiters (only 1 year into his inexpensive rookie contract) may not be near the value of what Gordon Hayward will be at a rough estimate of $10 million per year?

Either, 1) provide a good argument that forces me to think and "aids" me in my Association plans, as I am currently not sure if you're attempting to aid me or just troll, or 2) post your preliminary Association plans as the thread was intended for. Please. Thank you.

**turty11** · 07-22-2013, 06:10 PM

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Cavs receive: Evan Turner, Anthony Randolph

76ers receive: Jarrett Jack, any necessary draft picks from Cavs

Nuggets receive: Alonzo Gee, any necessary draft picks from Cavs

---turner is a point forward, hes young but probably at his ceiling, and nowhere near a franchise player.

--JJ is one of the best backup guards out there. His value is much greater than turners, especially on a Cleveland, who just drafted bennett and has no backup PG to begin with

---well... gee for randolph...gee isnt a starting caliber SF IMO, but randolph is barely a bench warmer...

--------you dont need to see my association plans becuase its already been started ^^ but ill tell you anyways

--take the new look celtics, turn rondo and green into perennial all-stars, and make sullinger a borderline star (and its going well so far)

**TeamBuilder** · 07-22-2013, 07:46 PM

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Originally posted by turty11

Cavs receive: Evan Turner, Anthony Randolph

76ers receive: Jarrett Jack, any necessary draft picks from Cavs

Nuggets receive: Alonzo Gee, any necessary draft picks from Cavs

---turner is a point forward, hes young but probably at his ceiling, and nowhere near a franchise player.

--JJ is one of the best backup guards out there. His value is much greater than turners, especially on a Cleveland, who just drafted bennett and has no backup PG to begin with

---well... gee for randolph...gee isnt a starting caliber SF IMO, but randolph is barely a bench warmer...

--------you dont need to see my association plans becuase its already been started ^^ but ill tell you anyways

--take the new look celtics, turn rondo and green into perennial all-stars, and make sullinger a borderline star (and its going well so far)

It's not clear what your point is but it sounds like you're implying that the Cavs are losing out on this deal. Not sure why that's a big deal since the Cavs are the team I'm controlling.

Anyway, Turner will work well as the primary ball-handler in a 2nd unit where Jimmer Fredette can spot up and play off the ball. Randolph offers needed size and athleticism at the 4/5 that Gee cannot offer.

I assume your "already started" Celts Association is in 2K13 because 2K14 isn't out yet. Dynamics and player ratings may be significantly different when 2K14 releases (specifically Jeff Green, I imagine his ratings will be higher in 2K14).

**turty11** · 07-23-2013, 12:32 AM

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what im implying is the trade is no realistic, nor fair. nothing else. i dont control your dynasty you do.

--nah green will be the same, because i use my own rosters not 2k's garbage.. not even sure im getting 2k14 at this point

**zimmtron** · 07-23-2013, 03:13 AM

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I'm still trying to understand why you'd be playing turner off the bench

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