In possible to play on ball in this game

[joewink23]

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I think I've become a chucker from playing against the CPU. I think the default should be a little bit less space on shooters though. I don't need to hedge so hard to guard a guy like Jimmy Butler leaving Deng SOO wide open. The overcommit on the hedge seems a bit too high. Now, this does happen when Rose has the ball in real life because he commands so much attention. But hedging and leaving all shooters with 10 feet of unrecoverable space regardless of the ballhandler seems more like the college game than the NBA game. Plus when you get caught leaving a shooter open it's like your defender is stuck in mud trying to get back. This isn't even a complaint, sorry to make it sound that way. Just an observation. This game plays better than anything we've ever seen.

[Solebru]

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I did encounter an instance today for the first time where I set Pressure Shooters but my D was still leaving Thabo Sefolosha open for open 3's. I guess 2k has a system where it chooses who the shooters are based on Tendencies maybe, kind've like they do with the Focus on Stars option. But I've found that the on/off ball pressure sliders fix that problem.

Hey for people using "pressure shooters" that puts deny ball for off ball and tight for on ball on smalls.... deny ball isnt going to put your player up close. thats why the opposition is getting space...
You want to set it yourself to "tight" offball and "tight" onball.

With players leaving their man open... you want to go in coach profiles and and put Help D to zero then they shouldnt leave their man at all because they wont be helping. Also in controller settings put CPU Def Assist to zero so you have full control of your players not cpu...

Try that guys

[CaseIH]

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I agree. On ball d is very much possible and fun this year. It took me a while to get it but now I can lock up bad player's and cause problems to good players with a good defender. The best part is that I can get better at it still. There are a lot of mechanics and things to think about like shading and using the right stick. I don't feel I'm disadvantaged playing on ball like last year.

Ive never had so much fun playing D as I have this year. I do think the player speed is still a tad to high, but its much better than they have ever done with a game.
For once I can stay in front of a player I am guarding but when I do get beat I have help D, never has that ever happen in before with any basketball game.
Adjusting Coaches profiles will also make a difference with your teams defense along with changing pressure on shooters. I love how they added in off ball D pressure slider in Coaches Profiles this year, that makes a big difference with guys staying tight and playing passing lanes. I hardly ever saw any of my AI players ever jump a passing lane in past yrs games, but they will this year. I just cant say enough great things about how thegameplay is this yr, finally 2k has got the game realistic.

[Krodis]

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From these complaints I wonder if some of these people ever pay attention to what actual NBA defenders do off-ball. Most of the time they aren't within 10 feet of their man (maybe a slight exaggeration). No one in the NBA just smothers their man off-ball all day. 2k14 is much more realistic in this respect.

[sreckless]

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From these complaints I wonder if some of these people ever pay attention to what actual NBA defenders do off-ball. Most of the time they aren't within 10 feet of their man (maybe a slight exaggeration). No one in the NBA just smothers their man off-ball all day. 2k14 is much more realistic in this respect.

Actual NBA defenders close out and contest when their man catches the ball spotted up with their toes behind the 3-point line. AI defenders in 2k14 (not always, but too often IMO) just stand there watching as the shot goes up.

And I'm not talking about circumstances with off-ball movement or penetration -- I'm talking about situations where the point guard is just dribbling 35 feet from the hoop, throws a pass to the wing, and the shot is uncontested. I shouldn't see that behavior from good wing defenders with high defensive awareness.

It was LD2K's suggestion to turn on "pressure shooters" in order to get the AI to smother shooters. I feel as though a) it shouldn't be necessary to "smother" defenders to get contests on wing/corner shots taken without any attempt to first break down the defense, and b) that even with that setting on, I still see the same issue.

From Solebru's post, LD2K's input was incorrect, and there may be a different solution, so I plan to use his suggestion.

[DatGD12guage]

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Is it possible to play on ball d in this game?

Offline yes

Online no, you will not be able to be as effective as you are playing on ball d offline b/c of lag and other delay issues.

Anyone who says they can be as effective playing on ball d online with the delays etc. as they are offline, I dont believe you and I will not believe you until I see a video of someone doing it or I play you. So words are bs to me.

Until then everybody is ego trippin LOL

Online is a different story and you have to find a mix between the two, im just being honest.

[nova91]

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Is it possible to play on ball d in this game?

Offline yes

Online no, you will not be able to be as effective as you are playing on ball d offline b/c of lag and other delay issues.

Anyone who says they can be as effective playing on ball d online with the delays etc. as they are offline, I dont believe you and I will not believe you until I see a video of someone doing it or I play you. So words are bs to me.

Until then everybody is ego trippin LOL

Online is a different story and you have to find a mix between the two, im just being honest.

You can play on ball d offline IF you tweak sliders and coach settings etc., without the ability to do that(MyCareer) you are left with a mess.

[DatGD12guage]

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You can play on ball d offline IF you tweak sliders and coach settings etc., without the ability to do that(MyCareer) you are left with a mess.

I know what you mean but your movements can be managed better offline when you come up with different ways to defend ie manually sagging off, to moderate, to close plus the way the cpu moves is not as erratic as human players in most instances so you have a little more reaction time also to know if you want to shade or whatever.

ONLINE you have players turbo running laterally in some games and you will not be able to consistently stop that online with delay and lag as much as you will offline. Offline is a different experience than online but some ppl still act as if the same changes you make offline apply and work online which is nonsense, like, there's no sliders online you feel me lol(as far as I know for quick matches, my team?, blacktop, or team up)

So when someone who plays online has a problem a offline guy will say something crazy like "all I have to do is tweak this slider and the game is perfect" but thats OFFLINE. Everybody does not play offline and some dont want to at all. Me, I dont care for it that much b/c the cpu and the AI is not up to par in my op so sometimes I can deal with it but only for a certain amout of time then I have the I have a question face and then Im like eff it.

There's definitely a misunderstanding between offline and online guys LOL

[nova91]

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I know what you mean but your movements can be managed better offline when you come up with different ways to defend ie manually sagging off, to moderate, to close plus the way the cpu moves is not as erratic as human players in most instances so you have a little more reaction time also to know if you want to shade or whatever.

ONLINE you have players turbo running laterally in some games and you will not be able to consistently stop that online with delay and lag as much as you will offline. Offline is a different experience than online but some ppl still act as if the same changes you make offline apply and work online which is nonsense, like, there's no sliders online you feel me lol(as far as I know for quick matches, my team?, blacktop, or team up)

If you watch CPU vs CPU, the CPU dribbles almost as erratically as online humans opponents; they will dribble around in circles until they find the slightest opening and put up(and make) a heavily contested layup or draw a foul and get an and-1.

As a MyCareer player, the lack of the ability to adjust coach and defensive settings(you can at least change these online) and sliders is a killer, if I use the default pressure shooters it leaves the paint wide open, if I use lockdown paint it leaves shooters open.