Exhausted bigmen

[ffpp]

Why is it that bigs in this game get tired so fast ? While some of my guards can easily go up to 40 minutes I they have to, others struggle to reach 30 or even just 25 minutes in a single game.

Example: (player - stamina)
Lillard - 99
Aldridge - 83
R.Lopez - 73

* Lillard can basically play as much as I like.
* I even had to play Aldrige with only two bars of stamina left during important stretches in that game and he reached only 32 minutes at the end.
* R.Lopez was on the floor as much as he could while staying above two stamina bars if possible. He got only 23 minutes of playing time...

The whole team had two days of rest, then one medium training session right before the game, btw (asociation). I get that this is factored in for the fatigue. Overall to me it still feels like bigs are tired out too quickly.

Should this be fixed in the rosters ? Patched in the game even ?

[RobMUFC1987]

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I might be imagining things, but the slower the player, the quicker he tires? Say a 99 speed takes 5 seconds to get from one end to the other, but a 50 takes 10, the 50 is sprinting for longer so uses more stamina

[FluffyTonka]

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Nah, it's the sig skill, Bruiser.

It wastes your bigmen.

Stupid from 2K, that they'd give a big man like Aldridge who plays 36 mins a night, stupid that they'd give him stamina of 75 or 82 or whatever it was.

All the stamina ratings are whack, imo ... I've been getting into my career, and those rosters are so bad, its a bit of a gamekiller for me after tweaking my own rosters & playbooks for 2 weeks for franchise mode.

[timmio1990]

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The other day I played as Golden State just after I got the game, was really pushing the tempo and just playing around getting used to the controls. Bogut had around 16mins in the first half but early in the 3rd he was so fatigued he wouldn't jump for rebounds. Benched him and he came back on and he was fine for an 8 min stretch later in the game. Personally I like it though haha.

[ffpp]

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I also thought of the bruiser skill but it seems to happen the same way in every game. I didn't check if there was always an opposing big with that skill around.

The constant turboing seems to be a problem, though. I always cringe when I receive the inbounds pass from my center, dribble the ball upcourt extra-slow and he starts turboing towards his position.

[petz_e]

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The constant turboing seems to be a problem, though. I always cringe when I receive the inbounds pass from my center, dribble the ball upcourt extra-slow and he starts turboing towards his position.

Yes! That's the main issue! Also, ever noticed that you big always turbo back on defense? This was also present in last years game but This year it's even worse. I raised the stamina of all bigmen in the game by 15 points to counter this. Was a lot of work but well worth it.

[ffpp]

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Yes! That's the main issue! Also, ever noticed that you big always turbo back on defense? This was also present in last years game but This year it's even worse. I raised the stamina of all bigmen in the game by 15 points to counter this. Was a lot of work but well worth it.

Good idea.
It should make the game more challenging again if you play against a team which's most important player is a PF or C. I just played against the Kings and their best player in Cousins barely played around 30 minutes. Factoring in that he was most likely playing half-exhausted all the time he was on the court, this should really impact his performance (he had 13 points and 11 rebounds though).

[worstsportsgamer1977]

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it depends on how you use such players. you have to remember in real life big men usually do not have the same stamina as the smaller players. there are exceptions due to there athletic ability. so if your using a big and spamming the speed button your going to gas him out. chasing fast breaks or things of that nature. stop using your centers and power forwards like guards and his stamina will last longer. i have learned to not use that speed button very often.

i normally play power forward and i start to get gassed by the the beginning of the third quarter if i chase around everything.

[Boilerbuzz]

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Hey. On average, don't bigs tire sooner than little guys in RL.

[ffpp]

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it depends on how you use such players. you have to remember in real life big men usually do not have the same stamina as the smaller players. there are exceptions due to there athletic ability. so if your using a big and spamming the speed button your going to gas him out. chasing fast breaks or things of that nature. stop using your centers and power forwards like guards and his stamina will last longer. i have learned to not use that speed button very often.

i normally play power forward and i start to get gassed by the the beginning of the third quarter if i chase around everything.

The problem is only that you cannot fully control what your teammate PF and C are doing. As I described, even when I take my time bringing the ball upcourt, they will print upcourt to get into position, while I would prefer them to just jog there in most situations.

Doing this all game long and throwing in the extra fatigue implied by fighting for position in the post, this forces them to deal with a lot of wear, which you cannot control directly.

[ffpp]

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Hey. On average, don't bigs tire sooner than little guys in RL.

I think so too. But the difference in fatigue between smaller players and big men just doesn't seem right to me.
If I manage their respective minutes as good as possible, towards the deciding minutes in a game the guards are often as fresh as they where in the beginning. While my post players get their resting time for the critical minutes late in the 4th, but after 1-2 minutes of play already have a hard time standing upright :/

[RangersCruz]

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Did you try to mess with the sliders a little? id recommend the OS rosters if you're playing offline.

[jaateloauto]

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I might be imagining things, but the slower the player, the quicker he tires? Say a 99 speed takes 5 seconds to get from one end to the other, but a 50 takes 10, the 50 is sprinting for longer so uses more stamina

Yes, speed is a big factor. Pressing turbo uses the same amount of stamina/second no matter what your speed is. Big men turbo for a lot longer when running up and down the floor. It's to the point where I always take control of my center after a possession to walk him down the court without pressing turbo so he doesn't tire in like two minutes of play. It's been like this since 2K13 where they drastically changed how much stamina is being spent without thinking it would mess up the balance between bigmen and guards.

Hey. On average, don't bigs tire sooner than little guys in RL.

Yes. But they don't tire in the first two minutes while the guards play the full game without getting tired at any point. They already have a speed disadvantage which makes them spend a lot more stamina. Why do they have to have awful stamina ratings too?

The stamina ratings ruin teams like Spurs, Nets, Grizzlies for online use. As if it wasn't bad enough that everyone is running D'Antoni offense.

[Erithtotl]

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I have subs set to automatic and play as the Pacers. Hibbert averages about 24-26 minutes a game and that includes him playing the last 6-7 minutes completely exhausted. He doesn't have the best endurance in real life but averaged 29 last season and nearly 37 in the playoffs.

It'd be one thing if I had player lock on and was turbo-ing him all the time but I'm not.

[threattonature]

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The stamina in the game is horrible. On default slider for big men is decent IMO but backcourt players never get tired at all and can play a full game. If you bump up sliders to a level that backcourt players actually get tired, big men can't play more than 3 minutes at a time. I have been unable to find a happy medium at all.