3/2 Nerf, when?

[GrapeApe216]

I have a bad feeling that this "fix" will pit teams of five normal star pros against teams with RC pros, PnPs pros, HoF pros, etc. Which would essentially be going full P2W

[Rip4ever]

Quote: Originally Posted by brad_nicholson

yeah, so we're not huge fans of the 3/2. philosophically, we want players to get awesome cards, put those awesome cards in their decks, and then perform better as a result. that rush you get whenever you pull something new or fantastic? we like that. that feeling you feel when a card really completes your five-man deck? we love that. making a decision to NOT use a card because it benefits your matchmaking isn't something we're all that after (minus the edge cases when you want to, say, avoid tipping over ++ until you receive a few more cards). we've tried to tackle the 3/2 a couple of times and my impression is that we finally got it. there's some more testing to do, i think, but we'll get that out to you as soon as possible. (also, sorry about the vagueness -- the fix is a 'secret sauce' kind of thing.)

I'm cool with that. I hope whatever it is works. Also glad to hear confirmation that the desire of the game is to promote a five man deck. I really like early on trying to get a rebounder and a playmaker. You know rounding your team and filling holes. To me when playing 3 killer PGs out of position and two scrub cards is a top strategy and playing five good complimentary cards is a recipe for failure something is wrong.

Be prepared for the mountain of cheesers to complain however unless they can somehow still win 95% + of their +5 games.

Sorry, but cheesers wanna cheese.

[Sir Master Tim]

Quote: Originally Posted by Rip4ever

I'm cool with that. I hope whatever it is works. Also glad to hear confirmation that the desire of the game is to promote a five man deck. I really like early on trying to get a rebounder and a playmaker. You know rounding your team and filling holes. To me when playing 3 killer PGs out of position and two scrub cards is a top strategy and playing five good complimentary cards is a recipe for failure something is wrong. Be prepared for the mountain of cheesers to complain however unless they can somehow still win 95% + of their +5 games. Sorry, but cheesers wanna cheese.

Ima cheese the..... out of this forum come monday mourn

[nzjase]

I think a fix to the 3/2 LU is to leave it alone but make it undesirable to play.

How do you do that... you give an extra pick for winning all 4 quarters. This means you can run a 3/2 lineup if you want but you are screwing your picks it also puts real value on filling out your quick game line up correctly.

Lastly winning all four quarters isn't overly easy, I am not saying win in 4 but to win all 4.

FYI - I can't take credit for the extra pick idea I read it on hear a week or two ago but can't remember who to give credit to for it :P

[Rip4ever]

I think that would just change the 3/2 strat to a 4/1 strat. I doubt it would promote full use of all five cards.

[Sir Master Tim]

Quote: Originally Posted by Rip4ever

I think that would just change the 3/2 strat to a 4/1 strat. I doubt it would promote full use of all five cards.

Lets just hope they know what they are doing. Games that were even more popular have collapsed because developers tried to "improve" upon features that werent really broken.


Im not taking a shot at CD. Im just saying its a fine line between improving and controlling. CD doesnt like the 3/2 so they intend to fix it. Players are already frustrated with season rewards,taxes, and the introduction of PO tier. If these new changes dont go as planned then it could be the tipping point for most players.

[Yonder]

Quote: Originally Posted by nzjase

How do you do that... you give an extra pick for winning all 4 quarters.

Like that!

Another easy fix would be to remove the predictable pattern the CPU is playing and randomize the order of their 5 cards. 3/2 would be dead in a heartbeat.

[Melcho]

Quote: Originally Posted by Yonder

Like that! Another easy fix would be to remove the predictable pattern the CPU is playing and randomize the order of their 5 cards. 3/2 would be dead in a heartbeat.

Yep, I suggested this one a while back too, basically the AI always plays their best cards 1st, 3rd and 5th. It's too easy to beat.