How can Ea bring you Back to Elite?

[Dawgthem]

Okay Guys lets throw it out there i'm sure you guys know me now, been making myself a nuisance around as a 2k fan, but like in all honesty how can you fans or guys that have begun to question Nba ELite from seeing those videos how can EA bring you back to the game that you make think about purchasing it again, what are somethings they have to show that will make you say Whoa,..maybe i miss judged this game ...


ALso shout out to sleepy trecel or howeve ryou say his name i'm not a member of the 2k forum but i go there alot to check the threads

[Jano]

Re: HOw can Ea bring you Back to ELIte

All EA needs to do this year is deliver a fun game for me. I don't need the greatest animations or the most robust features just a fun game.

And the modes and features it does have need to actually work properly. That means a dynasty mode that has respectable sim averages. Or defensive controls that actually work properly and don't make me want to throw my controller.

My expectations aren't all that high for this game because of the situation that EA has put themselves in. So I don't expect it to be anywhere near as complete as NBA 2K.

If the dev team can deliver on the above they'll get money out of me. Probably not on release day though unless 2K11 is just a game I can't stand playing or the Elite demo just completely blows me away.

[Dawgthem]

Re: HOw can Ea bring you Back to ELIte

All EA needs to do this year is deliver a fun game for me. I don't need the greatest animations or the most robust features just a fun game.

And the modes and features it does have need to actually work properly. That means a dynasty mode that has respectable sim averages. Or defensive controls that actually work properly and don't make me want to throw my controller.

My expectations aren't all that high for this game because of the situation that EA has put themselves in. So I don't expect it to be anywhere near as complete as NBA 2K.

If the dev team can deliver on the above they'll get money out of me. Probably not on release day though unless 2K11 is just a game I can't stand playing or the Elite demo just completely blows me away.

What situation have they put themselves in please deliberate....

Me myself i'm one just different from others and represent people that just likes a good game with good presentation but i think Ea is going strictly for gameplay

[bltzkrieg666]

Re: HOw can Ea bring you Back to ELIte

Okay Guys lets throw it out there i'm sure you guys know me now, been making myself a nuisance around as a 2k fan, but like in all honesty how can you fans or guys that have begun to question Nba ELite from seeing those videos how can EA bring you back to the game that you make think about purchasing it again, what are somethings they have to show that will make you say Whoa,..maybe i miss judged this game ...


ALso shout out to sleepy trecel or howeve ryou say his name i'm not a member of the 2k forum but i go there alot to check the threads

First off never mention that name Tercel to me. That individual is the epitome of a 2k homer with absolute no objectivity. The fact that he is a moderator for the 2k forums since 2003 renders his comments biased and useless.

Now on to your question. I never left Elite. Only a child would look at those videos and render such a rediculous asumption to a game. Let me ask you a question: Do you buy a car before you test drive it? No, you don't. You have to get behind the wheel and take it for a spin. Sure the car looks hot and in your mind you know its awesome but until you get behind the wheel, you never really know.

Well that is exactly the case with these 2 video games. Sure 2k is all pretty and shiny and makes your mouth water when you see it but you haven't taken it for a spin yet. Will it be a dream machine or will it be a lemmon? You simply don't know. Furthermore with the existing problems this game had last year I think I wanna see the CARFAX before I buy this car.

Now Elite. It doesn't necessarily look as pretty as 2k but what it has under the hood is a mystery and kind of exciting at the same time. But again is it quarter mile speed demon or just a loud clunker? Again we won't really know until we get behind the wheel.

So making any kind of comment about either one of these games is very premature. Once the demos hit, the pieces will fall in to place.

[staffan]

Re: HOw can Ea bring you Back to ELIte

You are referring to the videos and I really don't know what to think about them.
I will play the demo with a clean mind and take it from there.

I want to feel that i am in control.
I want it to be rewarding to make a difficult shot.
I want it to be rewarding to play good defense.

[Pokes404]

Re: HOw can Ea bring you Back to ELIte

I'll play the demos and rent both games, and whichever game gives me the most accurate representation of basketball will get a purchase from me. Will it be 2K's robust number of animations and tried-but-true gameplay, or will it be Elite's responsive controls and real-time physics? Won't know until I play them. You just can't judge a game from videos.

[Jano]

Re: HOw can Ea bring you Back to ELIte

What situation have they put themselves in please deliberate....

Me myself i'm one just different from others and represent people that just likes a good game with good presentation but i think Ea is going strictly for gameplay

Well that's the thing they put themselves in a position where it will be hard for them to have good gameplay AND great presentation at the same time.

They have rebooted the series so much they haven't given themselves an identity to fall back on. So things like sig animations are put on the back burner because they are too busy with trying to establish fundamentals.

Most people's definition of gameplay is not just commentary and graphics its animations too. EA for the last few years has failed in those areas to most gamers they've had the decent gameplay but airballed it with the presentation.

So that's the reason why it seems like they are only going for gameplay because they are trying to establish the fundamentals that most games (2K, NHL, Fifa, The Show, etc.) figured 3 or 4 years ago.

[Muzyk23]

Re: HOw can Ea bring you Back to ELIte

Signature stuff all over the place, quality and quantity of animations. Those are the two most important aspects to draw me. However, it won't happen as the competition won't sit on its hands. They constantly tweak, better, add and polish their title. It takes years to achieve such beatifully animated game as Take Two's. So that's why EA will never catch up imo.
Unfortunately, I can't stand the way EA's basketball moves and looks in motion.

I should also add two more: depth and little things. Live 10, although a decent game, felt really flat after some time. The little things are self-explanatory.

[btrapp]

Re: HOw can Ea bring you Back to ELIte

Simply put, just release an excellent fully featured basketball game. The problem though, is that i don't think they'll be able to do that until nba elite 12 comes out. I have no problem purchasing 2 baskeball games, but BOTH have to be worth the $60 in order for me to do that.

[Dalsanto0026]

Re: HOw can Ea bring you Back to ELIte

I'll use three words, "attention to detail". 2K has it, Elite doesn't.

I'm all for more control but not at the expense of signature, fluid animations and player movement. I don't buy the excuse that you can't have both, so until Elite's game resembles real basketball I'll stay away from it.

Ugly, goofy player movement and animations kills the immersion for me, no matter how resposive the controls are. Basketball is a beautiful game in real life so I want to see that beauty in the virtual world as well.

[Da-Man]

Re: HOw can Ea bring you Back to ELIte

After watching those videos that 23 posted from the elite 24 event i will buying the game on release day.

The game looked really good and i can't wait to play it so EA doesn't need to convince me or bring me back to elite because i'm already there.

[Muzyk23]

Re: HOw can Ea bring you Back to ELIte

After watching those videos that 23 posted from the elite 24 event i will buying the game on release day.

The game looked really good and i can't wait to play it so EA doesn't need to convince me or bring me back to elite because i'm already there.

the topic of the thread is How can EA bring you back to Elite..your post is off topic

[noshun]

Re: HOw can Ea bring you Back to ELIte

I dont think they can with me... and only a few posters who've I talked with know why, even some of EA's devs... wont really get into it on this thread though. This isnt to say I havent played their games a few times since 07... but I'll leave it at that.

[HoosierDaddy]

Re: HOw can Ea bring you Back to ELIte

I never left Elite, I buy both games every year. However, Elite lacks depth in animations and signature play. Part of the reason I stick with them, is their involvement with the community. You can tell they really want to put out a good product and listen to what we have to say. That and having a history with the franchise. I want to see them succeed and it's good to see a healthy competition between them and 2K. It pushes both companies to put out an even better product.

With that being said, Elite now having the foundation with this amazing control, the only way to go is up from here. I'm hoping next year will focus on animations and signature styles. It adds another dynamic that this franchise has been missing for years.

[Rob. D]

Re: HOw can Ea bring you Back to ELIte

EASBA been saying since I played NHL......the videos looked horrid but If they can deliver on this mode I'll come back. All I ask is that there are no 99 rated 7ft point guards, and that you can actually shut a team down by playing good TEAM defense. I want to be able to enjoy this mode without the cheese that was in Live Run. That along with a solid online system in which EA usually does a good job in that department.