If NBA Live Has a Future, It Has to Look Radically Different

[blackceasar]

I guess what all of this boils down to amongst the "basketball experts" The Live Fanboys, the 2k Fanboys, the people from EA signing up in secret on here to praise the game, and then the regular real OS members.... I have one question for you... do you feel EA Sports is legitmately warranted in asking for a full 59.99 for this year's title?

That's all want to know. Yes or no.

No "you just need to learn to play the game"... or "Iv'e seen this game do things I haven't seen in a basketball game in 10 years"... or EA Sucks 2k RULES!!!...

Do you think EA should charge people full price for this game.. I don't mean the "patched" version. I mean that game that people actually dropped their money on.. the game that's on the disk.. not the patches that are "in the works".. 60.00... yes or no.

It's a legitimate question seeing that not all games launch at full price... so I wanna know.

[Flightwhite24]

Quote: Originally Posted by shutdown10

I'm just glad that we have other review websites and other social media to let EA know that this is not going to cut it anymore. Lets just say I'm happy this is not the only place EA will get feedback from, because the game would never improve looking at the comments this past week. We cannot let them off the hook for this effort. My friend bought this game around Launch, and he got tired of it so he tried to trade it in yesterday, and was only offered 13 dollars from Gamestop. That lets you know this game has a very poor demand in the market. I suggest to all you guys who bought the game to hold on to your copies, because you will not even get 15 dollars credit for it if you try to trade it in now. EA needs to lower the price for this game because that is robbery on the trade in price.

You need to do your research before posting/giving advice. Check BestBuys trade in. $40. If you were talking about GameStop. Then you are correct. I always check BB



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[Flightwhite24]

Quote: Originally Posted by blackceasar

I guess what all of this boils down to amongst the "basketball experts" The Live Fanboys, the 2k Fanboys, the people from EA signing up in secret on here to praise the game, and then the regular real OS members.... I have one question for you... do you feel EA Sports is legitmately warranted in asking for a full 59.99 for this year's title? That's all want to know. Yes or no. No "you just need to learn to play the game"... or "Iv'e seen this game do things I haven't seen in a basketball game in 10 years"... or EA Sucks 2k RULES!!!... Do you think EA should charge people full price for this game.. I don't mean the "patched" version. I mean that game that people actually dropped their money on.. the game that's on the disk.. not the patches that are "in the works".. 60.00... yes or no. It's a legitimate question seeing that not all games launch at full price... so I wanna know.

I think it's worth it for what i look for. And that's coming from a graphics whore in myself.

I'm huge on graphics!! But this game is just plain fun. I listen to others opinions/takes on games but at the end if the day it's what I choose to do. No reviewer/OS member/Mod no matter who it is or what there opinion of the a game can make me purchase/not purchase a game. I find it VERY EASY to respect others opinions. I don't always agree but I do respect and don't try to use underlying tactics to make my OS brothers or anyone for that matter look bad

If I don't like it then so be it. I'm not gonna come on here and ask for PROOF and try to mask it in the form of I'm interested when I know damn well I'm really just trying to make the person look silly.

But to answer your question again. For me I think it's worth $60.

Also blackceasar my rant wasn't directed to you. Peace man



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[WTF]

blackceasar, I can comment on two things. The demo that was released Day 1 without Synergy updates and without the 2 small patches, and the full retail version with those two things.

The day 1 demo, without Synergy, without the patches, no it's not near a $60 purchase.

The demo with Synergy updates, yes, I can say that it's worth a $60 purchase to me, which is why I picked it up.

Now, the game with the Updates and Bug Fixes, I can say that it's worth every bit of the $60, I wouldn't hesitate to get the game again if something were to happen with this disc.

But to say without Synergy, and without the updates that it's already received, that's not an entirely fair question, as even the PS4 needed an update to play a bluray disc based game. If you would have asked me if the PS4 was worth $399 without the Day 1 patch, then of course not, . We're in the day and age of patches. In its current state however, I will say that Live is easily worth my $60 for what it brings to the table.

[Pared]

Quote: Originally Posted by FLIGHTWHITE

I think it's worth it for what i look for. And that's coming from a graphics whore in myself. I'm huge on graphics!! But this game is just plain fun. I listen to others opinions/takes on games but at the end if the day it's what I choose to do. No reviewer/OS member/Mod no matter who it is or what there opinion of the a game can maker purchase/not purchase a game. I find it VERY EASY to respect others opinions. I don't always agree but I do respect and don't try to use underlying tactics to make my OS brothers or anyone for that matter look bad If I don't like it then so be it. I'm not gonna come on here and ask for PROOF and try to mask it in the form of I'm interested when I know damn well I'm really just trying to make the person look silly. But to answer your question again. For me I think it's worth $60. Also blackceasar my rant wasn't directed to you. Peace man Sent from my iPhone

Well, this obviously wasn't directed at ME.

Pretty sad. You would think for all the years here at OS, all of the different series we liked the best like Live, ID, 2K people would be more mature in this discussion.

Apparently not. Oh well - life goes on, and so do the games. There's much more to worry about than this. All I can say is that sales are dismal and there's a reason for it. When the game gets axed, only the developer will be to blame, not the people that "refused to buy it" or "just couldn't grasp just how deep it really is" or some other outlandish claim.

[Flightwhite24]

Quote: Originally Posted by Pared

Well, this obviously wasn't directed at ME. Pretty sad. You would think for all the years here at OS, all of the different series we liked the best like Live, ID, 2K people would be more mature in this discussion. Apparently not. Oh well - life goes on, and so do the games. There's much more to worry about than this. All I can say is that sales are dismal and there's a reason for it. When the game gets axed, only the developer will be to blame, not the people that "refused to buy it" or "just couldn't grasp just how deep it really is" or some other outlandish claim.

Now you know if I had an issue with you I would have pm'd you. Of course you Mods tick me off at times but I'd rather have you around keeping myself included in order. I have crossed the line a time or 2 and I'm not perfect.

If everyone agreed on everything this would be one boring forum.


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[Pared]

Quote: Originally Posted by FLIGHTWHITE

Now you know if I had an issue with you I would have pm'd you. Of course you Mods tick me off at times but I'd rather have you around keeping myself included in order. I have crossed the line a time or 2 and I'm not perfect. If everyone agreed on everything this would be one boring forum. Sent from my iPhone

Sorry I was busy replying to your PM.

It's all gravy. Personally, I think some (including WTF) are just fed up with the extra bull in 2k and like the "complexity in the simplicity" in Live. It happens as you get older and I find myself no longer interested in altering rosters and publishing sliders for others to argue about and so on and so forth.

But me saying that could be taken the wrong way so I've held that one back until now. It's not a slight, it's just how I see it. I don't see anything that is being mentioned here so I guess I am just blind in that sense. I think some guys here have a solid opinion and I like hearing them explain it. I know Dre and I didn't see eye to eye on the direction of Live and 2k (and this was when I was visiting EA!). I genuinely wanted us to have more options and better games that weren't copies of one another; you would still have similarities because they were emulating bball but there WAS a way to do it. If only EA listened to feedback more closely.

We probably wouldn't be where we are today. I honestly don't know how many times EA is going to keep going with a game that sells this poorly. I bet you they would make more money selling this in the App Store than on the PS4 and XB1.

[DonWuan]

I though the NBA determined price.

Even though I got it for about half off, as of today I would pay 60. When demo dropped, a big no.

But I knew I wasn't picking up 2k till 2k15. I play on PC though but 95% of that game is cosmetic.

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