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  • sarlndr
    MVP
    • Apr 2009
    • 1086

    #31
    Re: Nba live 18 review

    Originally posted by splashmountain
    you should've gotten ea access so you could play the full trial for 10 hours. to see for yourself.

    as for waiting til black friday. the price is 30 bucks and change right now if you pre-order. if you dont. the price will most likely go back to the normal 59.99. when black friday sales roll around. It will be back to the 30 bucks it is right now.
    So, if you got the cash, buy it now. if not. then wait.
    I have EA Access and I've seen it for myself.

    Live 15 &16 were both $16 during the Black Friday sales. I've got enough cash to buy it now but I'll be fine waiting.

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    • CujoMatty
      Member of Rush Nation
      • Oct 2007
      • 5445

      #32
      Re: Nba live 18 review

      Originally posted by extremeskins04
      Pastapadre has a pretty big following and has been reviewing sports games since I can remember and he's about as unbiased as you can get. Not sure if you're talking about his review or not.
      No this one by William Schwartz


      Read that and tell me what this guy is smoking.
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      • splashmountain
        Pro
        • Aug 2016
        • 812

        #33
        Re: Nba live 18 review

        Originally posted by sarlndr
        I have EA Access and I've seen it for myself.

        Live 15 &16 were both $16 during the Black Friday sales. I've got enough cash to buy it now but I'll be fine waiting.

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        now if its that cheap. then by all means wait. thats an unbeatable deal.

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        • renome
          Rookie
          • Nov 2014
          • 406

          #34
          Re: Nba live 18 review

          Originally posted by scottyp180
          Well said man and it goes for any reviews. People have different expectations and like different things. In this situation, for some people, it might simply come down to liking the gameplay of Live more than 2K or liking The One more than My Career. Completely understandable. But for others the poor franchise mode or the lack of editing is enough to make Live skippable.

          I can definitely see why people will prefer one game over the other (whether it's Live over 2K or vice versa). The important thing for us all to remember is that as long as we have competition in the NBA videogame market we all win. Choice is always a good thing and with both games pushing the other to the limits it's only going to lead to two better products.

          And like you said criticism is a good thing, as long as there is valid reasoning. If the complaint is simply "Live sucks" well then that does no one any good. But complaints like "the franchise mode is lacking features. The improvements that can be made are..." then, hopefully, EA takes notice and does work to strengthen the mode.

          Constructive criticism > blimdly hating
          This. Well-written

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          • CMH
            Making you famous
            • Oct 2002
            • 26229

            #35
            Re: Nba live 18 review

            Originally posted by The 24th Letter
            Here's a great breakdown of franchise mode...

            No opinions, just whats there, what isnt , what works, and what doesn't...



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            • extremeskins04
              That's top class!
              • Aug 2010
              • 3802

              #36
              Re: Nba live 18 review

              How does this game NOT have a Trade Block? My mind is boggled.

              The simulation engine is a problem. The Sixers won the finals against the Warriors? lol
              Last edited by extremeskins04; 09-13-2017, 07:48 AM.

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              • HypoLuxa13
                MVP
                • Feb 2007
                • 1156

                #37
                Re: Nba live 18 review

                Well, in all honesty, my hopes for Live 18 really were hinging on the career mode anyway. And that was fairly entertaining in the Demo. Especially since NBA 2k18 MyCareer is going to be such a grind fest it looks like. And I'm an offline, single player mode only guy. So I'll probably pick up 2K soon after release, and will be giving Live a shot later in the year when I can get it on a good sale just to give the career mode a more in-depth try than what we got in the Demo.

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                • GisherJohn24
                  MVP
                  • Aug 2008
                  • 4577

                  #38
                  Re: Nba live 18 review

                  Originally posted by sarlndr
                  "The*NBA Live 18*franchise mode is poor. In fact, itโ€™s probably the worst mode in the game."

                  Good read from both of the reviews. But the quote above has pretty much sealed the deal for me. Very, very disappointed with this news. I guess that's why we haven't heard anything from EA about franchise mode. It still might be a good pickup when the Black Friday sales come rolling out.

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                  honestly, for 39.99 I Dind't expect a lot of depth for the game modes and I was sold not by offerings but how the game played on the court. They needed the engine fixed. And for me, they accomplished that and I feel for that reason alone, got me sold and wanting to give it a chance. NBA LIve 10 was bare boned too, but played great. I'd rather have it play great than have a bunch of game modes with goodies. But that's just me.

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                  • Sayheykid01
                    Rookie
                    • Apr 2014
                    • 114

                    #39
                    Re: Nba live 18 review

                    Just a question for any of you guys who had experience with Live 16's franchise.

                    I personally only play franchise. I run two franchises, one with my hometown team and one fantasy draft. It's always been a goal of mine to finish an 82 game season, and I'll try again this year.

                    I've owned every 2k since 2k5, but I ordered Live this year strictly because I personally enjoyed the gameplay more. For a simple franchiser like myself (not simulating multiple years, making three team trades, trying to relocate a team..etc), do you think I'll be satisfied?

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                    • CujoMatty
                      Member of Rush Nation
                      • Oct 2007
                      • 5445

                      #40
                      Re: Nba live 18 review

                      Originally posted by Sayheykid01
                      Just a question for any of you guys who had experience with Live 16's franchise.

                      I personally only play franchise. I run two franchises, one with my hometown team and one fantasy draft. It's always been a goal of mine to finish an 82 game season, and I'll try again this year.

                      I've owned every 2k since 2k5, but I ordered Live this year strictly because I personally enjoyed the gameplay more. For a simple franchiser like myself (not simulating multiple years, making three team trades, trying to relocate a team..etc), do you think I'll be satisfied?
                      I was satisfied with 16. I pretty much play like you described. I don't need to set ticket prices. Scout players all that stuff. That being said certain things need to be fixed like CPU trading,injuries and sim stats. But if they fix them I think you'll be more than satisfied.
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                      • GisherJohn24
                        MVP
                        • Aug 2008
                        • 4577

                        #41
                        Re: Nba live 18 review

                        Originally posted by Sayheykid01
                        Just a question for any of you guys who had experience with Live 16's franchise.

                        I personally only play franchise. I run two franchises, one with my hometown team and one fantasy draft. It's always been a goal of mine to finish an 82 game season, and I'll try again this year.

                        I've owned every 2k since 2k5, but I ordered Live this year strictly because I personally enjoyed the gameplay more. For a simple franchiser like myself (not simulating multiple years, making three team trades, trying to relocate a team..etc), do you think I'll be satisfied?
                        If you're like me and just want to go through a season and see how well you can do and keeping track of your favorite players stats and such, it's going to be fun for you.

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                        • splashmountain
                          Pro
                          • Aug 2016
                          • 812

                          #42
                          Re: Nba live 18 review

                          Originally posted by extremeskins04
                          How does this game NOT have a Trade Block? My mind is boggled.

                          The simulation engine is a problem. The Sixers won the finals against the Warriors? lol
                          again, the trade block, roster editing, a deeper franchise mode all seem basic. but obviously it isnt. It takes a strong dev team and a lot of devs to pull this off. I have a feeling Nba live did not have that size of a team that it would take to pull off what we call basic stuff outside of the basketball gameplay and them focusing on "THE ONE" and their blacktop/park to rival 2k's mycareer and the park. because those two modes are the most popular to play after quick play now games and Ultimate team.

                          Franchise is last on the list guys. Thats after polling people. 2k has done similar polls in the not so distant past and have come to the same conclusion. Franchise mode is not the mode that most people play or care about. the difference between 2k and live is 2k has the financial and people resources to tackle all of their modes at the same time. especially since their gameplay/animations isnt nearly as far off as lives were prior to this new live 18.

                          as for the sixers winning it all. you have to understand something. purely based on what the sixer players could do if healthy, well coached and if they all had High bball IQ's which we have no idea if thats the case or not. They could possibly give the warriors a nice run for their money.

                          Fultz is going to be a star scorer in the nba, embid can easily be a star big that can do it all on both ends if he stays healthy, ben simmons looks like the light skinned magic(to a degree) with more hops. magic couldnt/wouldnt shoot jumpers early in his career either.

                          Thats 3 stars possibly 3 superstars on one team. they have just not gelled yet or grown up yet.
                          Last edited by splashmountain; 09-13-2017, 03:45 PM.

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                          • extremeskins04
                            That's top class!
                            • Aug 2010
                            • 3802

                            #43
                            Re: Nba live 18 review

                            EA has the finances. Not to get too much into details but they have a 1.57 billion dollar revenue figure at March 2017. The reasons aren't money, it's willingness to take the time to add the features knowing that they may break the game and fixing THOSE potential issues.

                            I can't pretend to know the inner workings of EA but it boggles my mind how a multi billion dollar company needs to borrow resources from a different game instead of actually finding dev talent to work on Live separately.

                            I mean I understand wanting to cut costs but your game will suffer cause of it.

                            Also if you told me that in 2-3 years the Sixers were beating the Warriors in the finals I might buy it, in the game. Not the first year when the Warriors have so much talent it's ridiculous. And definitely not just because they have Fultz.

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                            • BluFu
                              MVP
                              • May 2012
                              • 3600

                              #44
                              Re: Nba live 18 review

                              Originally posted by The 24th Letter
                              Here's a great breakdown of franchise mode...

                              No opinions, just whats there, what isnt , what works, and what doesn't...



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                              Not having all the CBA rules in there is yet another blow to franchise players.. So disappointing

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                              • splashmountain
                                Pro
                                • Aug 2016
                                • 812

                                #45
                                Re: Nba live 18 review

                                Originally posted by extremeskins04
                                EA has the finances. Not to get too much into details but they have a 1.57 billion dollar revenue figure at March 2017. The reasons aren't money, it's willingness to take the time to add the features knowing that they may break the game and fixing THOSE potential issues.

                                I can't pretend to know the inner workings of EA but it boggles my mind how a multi billion dollar company needs to borrow resources from a different game instead of actually finding dev talent to work on Live separately.

                                I mean I understand wanting to cut costs but your game will suffer cause of it.

                                Also if you told me that in 2-3 years the Sixers were beating the Warriors in the finals I might buy it, in the game. Not the first year when the Warriors have so much talent it's ridiculous. And definitely not just because they have Fultz.

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                                EA is a large company. We're talking about NBA LIVE.

                                in business each unit/team gets a set budget.

                                The sports division of EA gets a set budget.

                                FIFA and Madden probably get the bulk of that budget because those games are highly anticipated games that sell really well. NBA live is not. NBA live gets the treatment it deserves based on the money it generates. It generates the least by far so it gets the least amt of R&D cash coming out of the sports budget. Thats how real businesses work. yes there are times when a ceo or VP may make an executive decision to put more resources into a lacking division of the company. They do this because they see that the stuff that division puts out still has a decent audience for it being so bad or not nearly up to where it should be vs the competition in the industry(2k). So they will infused extra help/cash to get them on par with the current comp.

                                But that has not happened all the way to the point where nba live's team is the same size or larger than 2k's team. not even close. nor do they have that kind of $$$ to spend if you work under the nba live umbrella.

                                NBA live mobile, made the live guys some cash. which is why i believe we have a better nba live 18. Which is why I think live 18 will sell much better than previous lives since live 10. if it sells as well as I suspect. live 19 will be Lit. and live 20 will be on par with 2k. even with 2k making progress.

                                live 18's sales will put pressure on the budget holders to release more money and resources for 19. wash, rinse, and repeat every year thereafter.

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