The 2014 New York Knicks: It Ain't Gettin' Easier

[ehh]

The 2013 season was the must successful Knick season in a long, long time but still ended in disappointment in the ECSF. Camp kicks off next week so it's on to the new thread - OS' most bumping team thread each and every year.


Who's Arrived

• Andrea Bargnani
• Metta World Peace
• Beno Udrih
• Tim Hardaway Jr

Who's Gone

• Steve Novak
• Marcus Camby
• Jason Kidd
• Chris Copeland

PG: Felton/Prigioni/Udrih
SG: Shumpert/JR Smith/Hardaway JR
SF: Carmelo/World Peace
PF: Stoudemire/Martin
C: Chandler/TBD

There are a handful of guys in camp this year.

• CJ Leslie
• Jeremy Tyler
• Chris Smith
• Toure Murray
• Cole Aldrich

Some story lines heading into the season:

• What will Bargs give us? Can he revitalize his career or will this be another wasted 1st round pick that we gave up for nothing but earlier cap relief?
• Will Amare stay healthy? Will he give us anything in the final year before he becomes an attractive expiring deal? He supposedly will not play in the preseason and will probably still be on a 20-minute-per-game cap.
• JR is out with the knee and then has to serve a 5-game suspension.
• How will the team fare in the stronger Eastern Conference this year? Derrick Rose is back to Chicago. Indy gets Granger back and picked up Scola and Copeland. The Nets got older but tougher and having Knick-killer Paul Pierce on the roster will make any Knick fan queasy.
• Will Melo's game evolve at all and will he continue to play primarily at PF?
• Will Shump's game jump to the next level?
• Will we find some depth/help for Chandler?
• How much can Hardaway contribute as a rookie?

As always I look forward to the journey us Knick fans take in this thread each year.

[Vast]

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Thanks for starting the thread Ehh, good post. I'm excited for camp and to finally get the basketball season going, only thing is our season ended in dissappointment in the ECSF. I wish we made it to the ECF but i digress.

Great story lines heading into the season. The 4 big question marks for me are

Bargnani- what can this guy bring to the table, will he be able to rebound??????????? I personally think (and hope) he will be rejuvinated playing in NY.

Amare- I can't believe they're treating him with such kid gloves. I understand it and glad we're trying to keep him healthy but it just screams (super fragile old guy that doesn't have much left). smh. I thought he played really well in the post last year in the limited time he was out there, and i thought he was just getting into a rhythm when he got injured.

J.R.- This guy has soo much potential and talent its crazy, but he's proven to be a doofus. Who knows if he'll come back the same player or what he'll do this season. The good thing is maybe Woodson will chill out and not give the guy Lebron minutes and give Shumpert more burn.

Shumpert- Love this guy. The way he came back from injury was impressive, especially considering Rose still hasn't returned. Can he become a lockdown perimeter defender ala Avery Bradley. and will this be his breakout season. I think it will be. I like his game and his jumpshot can only get better. J.R. injury should give him more playing time.

[NYJets]

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Glen Grunwald out, Steve Mills in. Grunwald stays on as an "advisor."

Unless he chose to step down for personal reasons or whatever, this makes no sense.

[ehh]

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Just saw the news on my phone, def a head scratcher until more details emerge, which knowing the Knicks will probably never happen.

Re-hiring a guy that was demoted four years ago and basically pushed out the door. SMH. Grunwald did a stellar job with this team during his brief stint. Can't believe Dolan once again...

Posting and Toasting has some information...

http://www.postingandtoasting.com/2013/9/26/4773512/stein-knicks-to-replace-glen-grunwald-with-steve-mills

[ProfessaPackMan]

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Any of ya'll catch the Presser announcing the ASG for NYC in 2015? If not, Dolan took questions from the Media for the first time in 6 years:

http://nypost.com/2013/09/25/dolan-answers-first-question-from-reporter-in-six-years/

[Jeffx]

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Just saw the news on my phone, def a head scratcher until more details emerge, which knowing the Knicks will probably never happen.

Re-hiring a guy that was demoted four years ago and basically pushed out the door. SMH. Grunwald did a stellar job with this team during his brief stint. Can't believe Dolan once again...

Posting and Toasting has some information...

http://www.postingandtoasting.com/20...th-steve-mills

There was absolutely no reason for Grunwald to lose his job. Team overachieved, won 54 games and a playoff round for the first time since 2001. But Donnie Walsh undid Isiah's stupid-a** contracts, got us out of salary-cap hell, and look what happened to him.

Now Brain-Dead Dolan brings back Mills, who knows absolutely zero about the NBA(draft night should be a load of laughs). Brilliant move Dolan. This franchise continues to be a laughingstock, one of the worst run in professional sports and Dolan is a s*** owner.

I've said it before and I'll say it again. The Knicks are winning nothing as long as Dolan's in charge, NOTHING. We're never going to be like the Spurs because we stink from the top down. You all may think I'm nuts, but it's the truth. Bad owners kill franchises.

[Vast]

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There was absolutely no reason for Grunwald to lose his job. Team overachieved, won 54 games and a playoff round for the first time since 2001. But Donnie Walsh undid Isiah's stupid-a** contracts, got us out of salary-cap hell, and look what happened to him.

Now Brain-Dead Dolan brings back Mills, who knows absolutely zero about the NBA(draft night should be a load of laughs). Brilliant move Dolan. This franchise continues to be a laughingstock, one of the worst run in professional sports and Dolan is a s*** owner.

I've said it before and I'll say it again. The Knicks are winning nothing as long as Dolan's in charge, NOTHING. We're never going to be like the Spurs because we stink from the top down. You all may think I'm nuts, but it's the truth. Bad owners kill franchises.

Why??? Why B-ball gods why?????

[Jeffx]

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The only good thing is the team is pretty much set for this season, so Mills won't be able to screw things up.

[sleepyshotta]

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Did I hear we signed Chris Douglas-Roberts? Or was that just a training camp signing?


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[NYJets]

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New MSG scoreboard looks nice

[ehh]

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MSG will air the live training camp show next Tuesday at 11am.



Grantland's quick season preview...

New York Knicks

What a wacky bunch. New York is everyone's choice for the East's no. 5 spot, and though it didn't have the starry offseason of its crosstown rivals, New York managed some very nice moves despite lacking any financial flexibility. Nabbing Metta World Peace and Beno Udrih on the minimum is a smart way to leverage big-city appeal, and each provides Mike Woodson with flexible lineup options the 3-happy Knicks used to baffle opponents last season. Heck, I'm even on record as bullish about the potential — on offense — of a Carmelo Anthony–Andrea Bargnani–Tyson Chandler trio, which would mimic the effect of small-ball groups that unleashed Anthony's scoring and post passing last season. World Peace and Iman Shumpert could be an interesting defensive wing pairing in smaller lineups, though World Peace is declining.

But there's no road map from last year's below-average defense to the sort of unit any legit contender needs. It's nice to have Kenyon Martin behind Chandler, but Martin's 36 with a long injury history, and there are just too many defensive minuses here — too many guards who get smashed on picks, too few weakside rim protectors for when teams put Chandler into the pick-and-roll. If there's a team in the East's top five with a scary downside, this is it — and that's before we contemplate the future, and whatever is left of Amar'e Stoudemire.

[JayEmCee]

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Here we go!

[NYJets]

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Shump 7-7 18 points, picked up right where he left off from the playoffs. I really hope Woody's talk about starting JR is just lip service.

Nice debut for Hardaway Jr. too.

[Vast]

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Shump 7-7 18 points, picked up right where he left off from the playoffs. I really hope Woody's talk about starting JR is just lip service.

Nice debut for Hardaway Jr. too.

Shump is determined to keep his starting role, i love it, keep it up. JR is a bum until he makes up for last years playoffs.
THJ got that silky jumper; 2k14 wasn't lying. Artest also looked good, if we can get good offensive production from him it'll be huge.

I really like how Melo and Bargnani are trying to play well together. I think Melo respects Barg and vice versa. This is good news for team chemistry imo.

[ThatKidNamedTae]

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Whats up fellow #Knickstape fans!

Just wondering what everyone here prefers the 15-man roster to be with the 12 man rotation.

PG's: Ray/Pablo/Udrih/Murry
SG's: Shump/JR/THJ
SF's: Melo/MWP
PF's:Amare/Bargs/CJ/Kenyon
C's:Tyson/Tyler

STARTING

Raymond Felton
Iman Shumpert
Carmelo Anthony
Andrea Bargnani
Tyson Chandler

BENCH (in order)

JR Smith
Amare Stoudemire
Metta World Peace
Tim Hardaway J.R
Kenyon Martin
Pablo Prigioni
CJ Leslie

RESERVES

Toure Murry
Beno Udrih
Jeremy Tyler

** I personally think Murry and Tyler could prove to be valuable pieces if the injury bug happens. And Murry/Leslie are interchangeable, but whichever one is not in the 12-man should be in the d-league developing.