Fixing the Quarterbacks

[WVUWILD12]

Quote: Originally Posted by nikka

I think the QB's overall in the game are terribly overrated.. This is considered somewhat of a weak class for the upcoming draft. Here is my take and probably how i'll re-rate things. Barkley and Wilson are definitely seperated in this pack of QB's ratings must reflect that.. Only 10 guys rated 90 or better Matt Barkley 96 OVR Tyler Wilson 95 OVR Landry Jones 93 OVR Denard Robinson 93 OVR Geno Smith 92 OVR Aaron Murray 92 OVR Tajh Boyd 92 OVR Keith Price 91 OVR Colin Klein 91 OVR Casey Paschall 90 OVR **Side note** I notice this isn't being done on rosters currently out but Jordan Rodgers from Vanderbilt is severaly underrated that dude made alot of plays and led Vandy to a bowl game. I'll have him as a 84 OVR

I know I'm biased but I still see Geno Smith as the third best QB?

[bdarnell]

Quote: Originally Posted by trigga58

Yep and when Tyler Bray came back he threw 40% with 4 picks and 3tds. And his only wins before his injury were against non-SEC teams. In fact all his wins were against crap teams accept the over time win against Vandy. So Tyler Bray nothing. Kid only played 7 games and hasnt proven anything against anyone. And Coach Dooley wont help the kid any either!

The guy had a broken thumb.

[GoSpartans11]

Quote: Originally Posted by TarHeelPhenom

Keep your eye on Bryn Renner. He is gonna light it up in Coach Fedora's up tempo spread. He spent most of last year in the top 10 in QB efficiency.

The thing is, Renner might not start, since Williams is more of a fit for Fedora's system.

[GoSpartans11]

Quote: Originally Posted by gohogs141

You obviously didn't see Arkansas' OL last year lol

I did. Wilson is amazing at escaping pressure, but he also had recievers who could take his short passes and go the distance. As in 4 NFL caliber game-breaking recievers. I see absolutely no way how Wilson can replicate his season last year with the losses at reciever and Knile Davis returning, at least yardage-wise. But he's still an elite college quarterback right now.

[WVUWILD12]

Quote: Originally Posted by GoSpartans11

Barkley is the clear #1 QB in the nation. After that, it IS between Bray and Wilson, with Wilson by a small margin right now only because Bray was hurt last year, had sub-par o-line play, snapping, best reciever (first round pick) hurt, etc. Bray will probably surpass Wilson as he has 3 first round talent recievers to throw to, veteran o-line, nice pass catching tight end, and talented recieving runningbacks. If I were to rank QBs (OVR is calculated through my own ranking formulas): Barkley-95 Wilson-93 Bray-93 Landry-92 Logan Thomas-92 Murray-90 Geno-90 Pachall-90 E.J.-89 McCarron-88 Glennon-88 Carr-87 Price-87 Boyd-87 Matt Scott-87 Carder-87 Renner-87 Bridgewater-87 Mett-86 Tuel-86 Denard Robinson-86 Drew Allen-86 Blake Bell-85 Vandenberg-85 Nassib-85 Franklin-85 Renfree-85 Brissett-85 Rodgers-84 etc Some highly rated players like Klein will have lower OVR (83) than what some may expect in my rankings, as generally the OVR for me is the players pure talent. Klein would still be able to run the ball with power/toughness, but he doesn't have a strong arm, nor is he really accurate on tough throws.

Logan Thomas HIGHLY overrated. He should have an 89 OVR at the most. Geno Smith should be 3rd best QB behind Barkley and Wilson. I would actually put him and Landry Jones in a tie for the 3rd best QB. It's a toss up between the two. However Geno Smith was named the Big 12's best QB by ESPN over Klein and Jones.

[shawnb82]

2009 Elite 11 QB Camp Awards:

Golden Gun Accuracy Award: Tyler Bray
Best Feet: Devin Gardner
Most Likely To Play Early: Jake Heaps
Most Upside: Tyler Bray
Best Leader By Example: Nick Montana
Best Leader Vocally: Jake Heaps
Highest Football IQ: Jake Heaps
Best In The Classroom: Devin Gardner
Best Arm: Robert Bolden
Most Accuracy: Chandler Whitmer
Best In Any System: Nick Montana
Quickest Release: Robert Bolden
Most Improved: Nick Montana
Most likely to win BCS Title: Jesse Scroggins

Overall MVP – Jake Heaps
MVP Second – Tyler Bray
MVP Third - Chandler Whitmer
MVP Fourth – Nick Montana
MVP Fifth – Robert Bolden

http://youtu.be/htKTRdA1nXw

12 career starts:
TOTAL
471-272 - .577 - 3832 - 143.8 - 35 - 16 - 239.5

[GoSpartans11]

Quote: Originally Posted by WVUWILD12

Logan Thomas HIGHLY overrated. He should have an 89 OVR at the most. Geno Smith should be 3rd best QB behind Barkley and Wilson. I would actually put him and Landry Jones in a tie for the 3rd best QB. It's a toss up between the two. However Geno Smith was named the Big 12's best QB by ESPN over Klein and Jones.

Well considering you're a WVU fan, it's not surprising you would think Geno should be higher. However, Geno is not as talented as Landry, Logan Thomas, or Bray. And the NFL scouts seem to agree. It's not like Geno won't play the way he does with this rating. Logan clearly isn't overated when many believe he has the talent to be the top pick in the draft in 2014 if he stays..Geno is at best a second round talent with many believing he will be a third round pick as of now..

[mattvols3103]

Quote: Originally Posted by trigga58

Yep and when Tyler Bray came back he threw 40% with 4 picks and 3tds. And his only wins before his injury were against non-SEC teams. In fact all his wins were against crap teams accept the over time win against Vandy. So Tyler Bray nothing. Kid only played 7 games and hasnt proven anything against anyone. And Coach Dooley wont help the kid any either!

With a team around him that was lost and the kid had the flu for two weeks and came back way early and his thumb was still broke. Even If I wasn't a Vols fan. I'd take Bray this year to run a team. And not saying they are awesome. But did you see what he did to cincy? Runner up in big east. I know it might be hard to admit you not being a Vols fan and all. Everyone outside of tenn including "experts" on tv say Bray is a big time QB. He is bringing the Vols back along with 4 of the best WR/TE in the college game.