'13/'14 Rosters for NCAA '13 (XBox - WIP)

[Team UGA]

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Things we used for this roster file

• BuffEye's NCAA '13 Dynasty Rosters Base (Oct. Release)
• Xanathol's Roster Editor
• 24/7 Composite Rankings
• cfbstats.com

Gamertag: UGA Lovell32 / Call Me LSU

(ALL TEAMS DONE ✓)

Added Teambuilder Teams in spoiler tab

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[U][I][B]C-USA[/b][/I][/U]
Charlotte (Joining 2015)
Old Dominion (Joining 2014)

[U][I][B]Sun Belt[/b][/I][/U]
Georgia St ✓ [URL="http://www.easports.com/teambuilder#/school/2250870149:1364000340"][Teambuilder][/URL]
South Alabama ✓ [URL="http://www.easports.com/teambuilder#/school/2250870149:1363991918"][Teambuilder][/URL]
Appalachian St. (Joining 2014)
Georgia Southern (Joining 2014)

FAQ (Click Spoiler Tab)

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[I][u][B]How did you rate recruits?[/B][/u][/I] 

[I]This is the chart we used (24/7 Composite rankings) 

5 Stars (#1) - 83
5 Stars (#2-#17) - 82
5 Stars (#18-#34) - 81
4 Stars (Higher end 98/97) (#35-#51) - 80
4 Stars (Lower End 97) (#52-#66) - 79
4 Stars (96) (#67-#82) - 78
4 Stars (95) (#83-#102) - 77
4 Stars (94/93) (#103-#155) - 76
4 Stars (92/91) (#156-#226) - 75
4 Stars (90) (#227-#277) - 74
4 Stars (89) (#278-#330) - 73
3 Stars (88) (#331-#374) - 72
3 Stars (87) (#375-#479) - 71
3 Stars (86) (#480-#627) - 70
3 Stars (85) (#628-#797) - 69
3 Stars (84) (#798-#962) - 68
3 Stars (83) (#963-#1141) - 67
3 Stars (82) (#1142-#1368) - 66
3 Stars (81) (#1369-#1573) - 65[/I]

[I][u][B]What about JUCOs?[/B][/u][/I] 

[I]#1: 82
#2: 81
#3-#5: 80
#6-#10: 79
#11-#14: 78
#15-#18: 77
#19-#27: 76
#28-#36: 75
#37-#46: 74
#47-#59: 73
#60-#72: 72
#73-#86: 71
#87-#100: 70[/I]

[I][u][B]How did you come up with that Top 25?[/B][/u][/I]

Using ESPN's early top 25 predictions, which can be found [URL="http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/8778225/alabama-crimson-tide-headline-college-football-way-too-early-2013-top-25"]here[/URL]

[I][u][B]May I ask two questions about the chart? Are the rankings you use by position or are you using a national ranking that includes all players at all positions? Did you come up with the OVR ranges in the chart by studying the recruits generated in dynasty mode?[/B][/u][/I]

Its mostly just national ranking, but on some positions (QB) for example I will grade a little differently sometime. The OVR will comes close with the generated recruits on dynasty, only difference with mine is you wont see many diamonds in the rough. I'll post a pic of a dynasty I uploaded in the editor where it shows the overalls of the recruits...The highest recruits are 85/84 and most the time those guys are kickers and punters. Doing these the last couple of years I have looked backed at previous yrs game to see where certain guys have came in at.

[b][u][i]For the incoming freshman on this roster, I do not agree with using a table matching ranking to OVR. Each player should be rated individually rather than on a scale. An overall is nothing but a badly done average of individual ratings. If you want any help rating some of these incoming freshman, I'd be happy to help. This is a great project and I look forward to playing with this roster.[/i][/u][/b][u][i][/i][/u][i][/i]

I agree that the table will have its flaws, but at the same time numbers that have been posted of 40 times and other stats are just as flawed. I've tried this before somewhat and believe me it just creates fights over this guy is better then him and so on...Remember this is basically trying to predict the future with guys who have not played a down yet, there will be some boom and bust no doubt but I cant predict that. 

[b][u][i]The recruits are too low/too high...[/i][/u][/b][u][i][/i][/u][i][/i]

Simming couple seasons using the method I've done this yr and past yrs is kind of a happy medium, if you rank them too high - then come their SR season you will be seeing ALOT of high 90s, do them too low and you are gonna see alot of players cut when the next set of recruits come in.

[b][i][u]Do you improve the others players during the offseason?[/u][/i][/b][i][u][/u][/i][u][/u]

Yep, about all the players have 2 pt upgrade to their overall but there are some cases where we might say well this guy was too high to begin with. Also will give additional pts for guys on All American list (I use Phil Steele's) as well as checking stats on cfbstats.com

[b][u][i]Guys are too slow...[/i][/u][/b][u][i][/i][/u][i][/i]

Still tinkering around things with speed, I do think the game plays better at a slower speed but, I also did it for dynasty purposes as progression from yr to yr they will gain more speed. Still if you feel a guy is too low, just post it and we will check it out...

[b][u][i]Can these be transferred over to the PS3?[/i][/u][/b][u][i][/i][/u][i][/i]

No, they cannot.

[miz468]

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Wow. This is impressive work done already. I was expecting it would be a couple of weeks before this came out. I'll let you know when I check them out.

Wish I could offer to do a team, but I only know Auburn really well, and you seem to have that handled already.

[Executioner042]

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Just checked it out. Awesome work for this soon. Look forward to future updates.

[miz468]

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One small note for Auburn is that DC Ellis Johnson runs a 4-2-5, not a 4-3.

[bb09red]

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Not sure of any real alternatives, but I've found Rivals to be the least reliable and most bias of any recruiting ranking system. Most sites will have similar consensus ratings with classes overall being ranked in the same ball park. I've seen some rivals classes for some schools that are almost 30 spots or more away from most other sites. For instance having a #30 class in most sites, and rivals putting it in the 60's.

[Team UGA]

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I would have to disagree, think there is even an article about Rivals being the most accurate...Will say ESPN and 24/7 have stepped up their game quite a bit. (Specially ESPN who I thought was terrible couple years ago) Scout, I am just not a huge fan of, I do think all of them have some bias according to member sites and what camps they are connected with.

Not saying that because it benefits my team either, think we finished #10 on ESPN and #12 on Rivals. There are a few guys I think rivals has underrated for us just like I'm sure everyone else does, just make the changes on the roster you are using like I did.

[Sportzfan0290]

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Will definetly check this out later. That Nkimdeche looks amazing. So Miami's done already as well? What about all the coaches have they changed?

[LsuTyga24]

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Miami is done,but if you see any corrections that need to be made post them and me and UGA will get the corrected. All of the coaching changes are up to date. If there is a Xx on any of the coaches that means they havent hired any one yet.

[prototype12]

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At it again!! Good to see you did this again UGA, I'll check them out when I get back from work. Man that roster editor must be a life saver. I'll be sure to toss any Florida or WV edits up on here!

[goblue248]

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This is great UGA and LSU thanks in advance for the work you're doing. On a side note I run a great od we are in season 14 we are going to restart with these new rosters so if anyone wants to join shoot me a message on xbl envy is atm

[miz468]

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Not sure of any real alternatives, but I've found Rivals to be the least reliable and most bias of any recruiting ranking system. Most sites will have similar consensus ratings with classes overall being ranked in the same ball park. I've seen some rivals classes for some schools that are almost 30 spots or more away from most other sites. For instance having a #30 class in most sites, and rivals putting it in the 60's.

24/7 has a composite ranking system now, where they use a formula to average out rankings from 24/7, Rivals, ESPN and Scout. It's legit.

[lccowboys]

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GREAT JOB! I love the speed and urgency y'all do this stuff with. It shows how much y'all care about authentic gameplay!

I have one request/remark. As a UT fan and having kept up with recruiting, I believe Tyrone Swoopes should have his running ability bumped up. He had 2267 rushing yards and 29 rushing tds.He is also 6'5, 229 lbs as a freshman, and his current strength on your rosters is 50. Just a request for y'all to do a little research into the kid. On tape he outruns everybody. Like Jerry Rice, he just isn't a 40 yard dash guy.

[flightteam623]

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Great job ! My only change would be to add jalin Marshall a freshman wide reciever to Ohio state and other than that its all perfect

[bb09red]

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24/7 has a composite ranking system now, where they use a formula to average out rankings from 24/7, Rivals, ESPN and Scout. It's legit.

Yea thats what Ive been using its a pretty legitimate system they have.

[bb09red]

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I would have to disagree, think there is even an article about Rivals being the most accurate...Will say ESPN and 24/7 have stepped up their game quite a bit. (Specially ESPN who I thought was terrible couple years ago) Scout, I am just not a huge fan of, I do think all of them have some bias according to member sites and what camps they are connected with.

Not saying that because it benefits my team either, think we finished #10 on ESPN and #12 on Rivals. There are a few guys I think rivals has underrated for us just like I'm sure everyone else does, just make the changes on the roster you are using like I did.

Understandable, but with a big school that is getting those big time recruits who have alot of coverage and scouting,it is easier to reflect classes that are similar. Where the problem emerges is down the list with small schools who get more unnoticed 3 stars and 2 stars, the spread is very bias and strong on rivals. I subscribe to 247 which uses a system that merges data from multiple recruit sites, and it seems the most reliable so far and even includes alot more schools like transitioning teams like charlotte and south alabama, ODU.