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  • survivalsounds
    Rookie
    • Jan 2008
    • 69

    #1

    Temporary 2014 Roster w/ Names x Coaches (Edited Ratings for all HC/OC/DC)

    While we wait for OS Community Rosters...

    This is a mod of MRBAD31's roster, which itself is a mod of PASTAPADRE and GAMEROSTERS.COM's early (but imperfect) rosters, which are fully-named rosters w/ BASE (unchanged) ratings. Lots of flaws but definitely playable!

    MRBAD31 did 8 hours of transfer work and added some freshmen... I liked his roster work so I used it as my starting point.

    I developed a BETA coach rating update methodology. The main feature you'll notice is the OC/DC on every single team is not the same anymore! Hooray.

    The next thing you'll notice is the HC ratings are changed to a new scale. At this moment, I have NO IDEA how this will affect Dynasty or Gameplay Difficulty, Recruiting Balance, or Coaching Carousel and Off-Season valuation or appraisal of coaching talent.

    However, this is better than the vanilla coaching lineup that was bothering me. Schools HAVE to have a strength/weakness on the coaching staff... The OC/DC's can't just be all the same.

    I used several criteria to edit coach ratings...
    • Years of Experience Regardless of Win/Loss Record
    • Win/Loss Record and Percentage
    • Trajectory of Career Path/Recent Success or Failure
    • "Name" and NFL Experience or Family Affiliation (i.e. recruiting boost) or School Attributes that might help that coach (i.e. Oregon's new head coach should hit the ground running due to the Oregon program's system.)


    What I did not account for:

    Decline in Coaching Skills in Recent Years i.e. Mack Brown or Steve Spurrier.

    As such, Those two dudes are at the top of the food chain along with Nick Saban and several others w/ levels of 50/51 range and TONS of Team Boosts which might come back to haunt us. Some middle of the pack coaches were not changed, and some lower tier coaches were given perks based on early success or "name", resume, or credentials.

    Download from my locker if you want to try it out, feel free to let me know if it is buggy and I will change it if, and only if, the OS Community Rosters for 360 have not been released.

    Only thing I can forewarn is if you take a stud coach and program, there's not as much room to "grow" and unlock new perks and game boosts as if you pick a lower tier coach... just an FYI.

    Also, recruiting will be HARD if you don't pick a stud since the "Kitchen Sink" boost gives a coach a lot of weekly influence w/ extra points assignable to recruits (500 is the starting max if you don't have that perk but they can exceed that w/ the perk...) Personally, I dig the challenge.


    Update: My 1st Offline Dynasty w/ Florida State (Jimbo Fisher Level 17) going up against coaches in the Level 40's and Level 50's head to head in recruiting and I had a Top 5 recruiting class. Also, the Signing Day was fairly realistic in terms of Top Classes. Alabama killed the nation but no team had more than 2 ***** Five Star Blue Chips. Good News. On a side-note, I finished the season w/ two losses and game difficulty is negligible so far.

    Enjoy your Dynasty!

    My locker is located at:

    XBOX360 GamerTag: COACHMETA
    Last edited by survivalsounds; 07-14-2013, 11:56 AM.
  • thuglove2005
    Rookie
    • Jul 2012
    • 16

    #2
    Re: Temporary 2014 Roster w/ Names x Coaches (Edited Ratings for all HC/OC/DC)

    THANKS BRO NICE JOB

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    • chadex
      Rookie
      • Dec 2011
      • 189

      #3
      Re: Temporary 2014 Roster w/ Names x Coaches (Edited Ratings for all HC/OC/DC)

      This sounds really awesome man, anyway I can get an offline, non Locker Share file uploaded on the internet to download? Really want to try these.

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      • survivalsounds
        Rookie
        • Jan 2008
        • 69

        #4
        Re: Temporary 2014 Roster w/ Names x Coaches (Edited Ratings for all HC/OC/DC)

        Originally posted by chadex
        This sounds really awesome man, anyway I can get an offline, non Locker Share file uploaded on the internet to download? Really want to try these.
        I'm not able to do that... apologies.

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        • survivalsounds
          Rookie
          • Jan 2008
          • 69

          #5
          Re: Temporary 2014 Roster w/ Names x Coaches (Edited Ratings for all HC/OC/DC)

          Update: My 1st Offline Dynasty w/ Florida State (Jimbo Fisher Level 17) going up against coaches in the Level 40's and Level 50's head to head in recruiting and I had a Top 5 recruiting class. Also, the Signing Day was fairly realistic in terms of Top Classes. Alabama killed the nation but no team had more than 2 ***** Five Star Blue Chips. Good News. On a side-note, I finished the season w/ two losses and game difficulty is negligible so far.

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          • survivalsounds
            Rookie
            • Jan 2008
            • 69

            #6
            Re: Temporary 2014 Roster w/ Names x Coaches (Edited Ratings for all HC/OC/DC)

            Another Update: The coach edits appear to be decent... The impact on gameplay and recruiting is negligible if you know how to recruit.

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            • vonnydigital
              Rookie
              • Jul 2013
              • 19

              #7
              Props and much kudos good sir.

              Sent from my GT-N8013 using Tapatalk 4 Beta

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              • survivalsounds
                Rookie
                • Jan 2008
                • 69

                #8
                Re: Temporary 2014 Roster w/ Names x Coaches (Edited Ratings for all HC/OC/DC)

                Originally posted by vonnydigital
                Props and much kudos good sir.

                Sent from my GT-N8013 using Tapatalk 4 Beta
                Thanks. I hope the OS Community Team for 360 does it even better with more in-depth strengths/weaknesses for coaches.

                Maybe I'm too optimistic from waiting so damn long!

                If I had it all to do over again, which I'm not going to do... I would have put the max coaches at about 25 and scaled everyone down from there. The 50 system is good but if you pick Nick Saban or Spurrier for a dynasty, you'll max coaching stats out (Level 54) eventually and too quickly IMO.

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                • survivalsounds
                  Rookie
                  • Jan 2008
                  • 69

                  #9
                  Re: Temporary 2014 Roster w/ Names x Coaches (Edited Ratings for all HC/OC/DC)

                  Super-functional coaching dynamic through a combination of sim and dynasty playthroughs...

                  Notes:
                  • Same errors as most rosters out from the Pasta Padre/Gamerosters original file.
                  • Good mods from MRBAD31 in place...
                  • Top tier coaches level up to full too quickly.
                  • Great for a challenge if you pick a mid-tier coach or lower.
                  • Coaching Carousel works just as good/bad as vanilla coach roster.


                  Like most of you... I keep hoping this 360 roster (that will henceforth go unnamed) would come out today so I can invest in a Online Dynasty w/ my crew (we're waiting for said roster to begin our dynasty) sometime before Madden Day!!!

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                  • thelasthurtknee
                    MVP
                    • Jun 2003
                    • 1459

                    #10
                    Re: Temporary 2014 Roster w/ Names x Coaches (Edited Ratings for all HC/OC/DC)

                    hey survival, i finished second year of dynasty and saban only went up 1 level in two years on very slow. im a level 5 after two years(mediocre years). i also didnt think he was that high of a level but might just looked at it wrong. he was the only one I looked at. at army my head coach was maybe a 19 or close and he didnt level up the first season at all on very slow.

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                    • survivalsounds
                      Rookie
                      • Jan 2008
                      • 69

                      #11
                      Originally posted by thelasthurtknee
                      hey survival, i finished second year of dynasty and saban only went up 1 level in two years on very slow. im a level 5 after two years(mediocre years). i also didnt think he was that high of a level but might just looked at it wrong. he was the only one I looked at. at army my head coach was maybe a 19 or close and he didnt level up the first season at all on very slow.
                      I personally don't have the patience to use very slow coach progression but high levels need a boatload to advance one level even on normal speed progression... Good feedback!

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                      • fmrodog
                        Rookie
                        • Jul 2004
                        • 155

                        #12
                        Re: Temporary 2014 Roster w/ Names x Coaches (Edited Ratings for all HC/OC/DC)

                        Originally posted by survivalsounds
                        Super-functional coaching dynamic through a combination of sim and dynasty playthroughs...

                        Notes:
                        • Same errors as most rosters out from the Pasta Padre/Gamerosters original file.
                        • Good mods from MRBAD31 in place...
                        • Top tier coaches level up to full too quickly.
                        • Great for a challenge if you pick a mid-tier coach or lower.
                        • Coaching Carousel works just as good/bad as vanilla coach roster.


                        Like most of you... I keep hoping this 360 roster (that will henceforth go unnamed) would come out today so I can invest in a Online Dynasty w/ my crew (we're waiting for said roster to begin our dynasty) sometime before Madden Day!!!

                        Love the rosters! I am wondering if all of the coaches have their run/pass ratio set up realistically?

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                        • survivalsounds
                          Rookie
                          • Jan 2008
                          • 69

                          #13
                          No. They are untouched. OS Community 360 is supposed to be thorough.

                          If you analyze every team, you'll find some schools where the OC is "better" than the DC and I got it wrong.

                          I used basic knowledge of the programs and some online lookups for overall coach ratings only! The unlocked skills are not customized either, which I hope is in the "you know what" roster release...

                          -Coach

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                          • RebelHog
                            MVP
                            • Jun 2009
                            • 1022

                            #14
                            Re: Temporary 2014 Roster w/ Names x Coaches (Edited Ratings for all HC/OC/DC)

                            Originally posted by survivalsounds
                            While we wait for OS Community Rosters...

                            This is a mod of MRBAD31's roster, which itself is a mod of PASTAPADRE and GAMEROSTERS.COM's early (but imperfect) rosters, which are fully-named rosters w/ BASE (unchanged) ratings. Lots of flaws but definitely playable!

                            MRBAD31 did 8 hours of transfer work and added some freshmen... I liked his roster work so I used it as my starting point.

                            I developed a BETA coach rating update methodology. The main feature you'll notice is the OC/DC on every single team is not the same anymore! Hooray.

                            The next thing you'll notice is the HC ratings are changed to a new scale. At this moment, I have NO IDEA how this will affect Dynasty or Gameplay Difficulty, Recruiting Balance, or Coaching Carousel and Off-Season valuation or appraisal of coaching talent.

                            However, this is better than the vanilla coaching lineup that was bothering me. Schools HAVE to have a strength/weakness on the coaching staff... The OC/DC's can't just be all the same.

                            I used several criteria to edit coach ratings...
                            • Years of Experience Regardless of Win/Loss Record
                            • Win/Loss Record and Percentage
                            • Trajectory of Career Path/Recent Success or Failure
                            • "Name" and NFL Experience or Family Affiliation (i.e. recruiting boost) or School Attributes that might help that coach (i.e. Oregon's new head coach should hit the ground running due to the Oregon program's system.)


                            What I did not account for:

                            Decline in Coaching Skills in Recent Years i.e. Mack Brown or Steve Spurrier.

                            As such, Those two dudes are at the top of the food chain along with Nick Saban and several others w/ levels of 50/51 range and TONS of Team Boosts which might come back to haunt us. Some middle of the pack coaches were not changed, and some lower tier coaches were given perks based on early success or "name", resume, or credentials.

                            Download from my locker if you want to try it out, feel free to let me know if it is buggy and I will change it if, and only if, the OS Community Rosters for 360 have not been released.

                            Only thing I can forewarn is if you take a stud coach and program, there's not as much room to "grow" and unlock new perks and game boosts as if you pick a lower tier coach... just an FYI.

                            Also, recruiting will be HARD if you don't pick a stud since the "Kitchen Sink" boost gives a coach a lot of weekly influence w/ extra points assignable to recruits (500 is the starting max if you don't have that perk but they can exceed that w/ the perk...) Personally, I dig the challenge.


                            Update: My 1st Offline Dynasty w/ Florida State (Jimbo Fisher Level 17) going up against coaches in the Level 40's and Level 50's head to head in recruiting and I had a Top 5 recruiting class. Also, the Signing Day was fairly realistic in terms of Top Classes. Alabama killed the nation but no team had more than 2 ***** Five Star Blue Chips. Good News. On a side-note, I finished the season w/ two losses and game difficulty is negligible so far.

                            Enjoy your Dynasty!

                            My locker is located at:

                            XBOX360 GamerTag: COACHMETA
                            Great work, but you will have to explain to me why Will Muschamp, Butch Jones, Kevin Sumlin, Gary Pinkel are ahead of Bret Bielema.

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                            • survivalsounds
                              Rookie
                              • Jan 2008
                              • 69

                              #15
                              Re: Temporary 2014 Roster w/ Names x Coaches (Edited Ratings for all HC/OC/DC)

                              Explain? No I don't and I certainly won't.

                              You can change it yourself and click "Save Roster" then "Start Dynasty" fairly easy last time I checked.

                              There are a ton of errors in various spots my dude. I didn't upload them for any other reason than for people who want to try something other than the default coaches w/o editing dozens of coaches themselves.

                              On a good note... The OS Rosters should get it 99% correct across the board... and it looks like we'll be playing those on Xbox One.

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