Duplicate Player ID's

[TarHeelPhenom]

Im sure this is old news...but I personally stumbled across this yesterday. But I know over the years a lot of people have had issues in their dynasties at about year 6 after using the dynasty editor with their file no longer loading up in the editor. This was due to the game duplicating players and multiple players having the same ID. Well ive been working on an NCAA 12 roster and I just happened to load it up in tye Madden 12 editor to see what could be done on it...and that editor actually can run a check for duplicated by either Player ID or Name. All these years i didn't know that lol...but man does that save a lot of headache!! Just thought I would pass it along.

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[ChubbyD]

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So here's a dumb question. I did this and found about two dozen dups. But of the dups, only the second player is found in the main roster view (i.e. of the two dups, I can't find the first listed player in the main roster view, but I can find the second named player). So how do you delete the duplicates in Madden editor, or change the PGID of anybody so I can open the dynasty in the NCAA editor again?


*edit* Never mind. I found it. For anyone interested, here's what you do. Go to the third pull down to the right of 'filters', and find the team "new." These are graduated RS Seniors from last year whose only goal in life is messing with your save file. Delete them. All of them. Save your roster, and then you can open your Dynasty file and edit away.

[JHamilton9]

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So here's a dumb question. I did this and found about two dozen dups. But of the dups, only the second player is found in the main roster view (i.e. of the two dups, I can't find the first listed player in the main roster view, but I can find the second named player). So how do you delete the duplicates in Madden editor, or change the PGID of anybody so I can open the dynasty in the NCAA editor again?

That's a lot of duplicates, but you can't delete players in the editors.

Do you use practice mode with your teams? If 'yes', then your players are re-created and added to the file. They'll have the same PGIDs, but their TGID will either be in the 300s or 400s. They will basically sit in the file and never be removed. You can still edit the file, but I haven't seen where it will affect gameplay.

With your duplicates, it isn't always easy as assigning a different PGID. You need to match an unassigned PGID with the proper team and TGID.

As always, back up your file before you make changes. And take notes of all your moves and assigned PGIDs and TGIDs.

For example, you have two LSU (TGID: 45) players with the same PGID. Both players are supposed to be on LSU. LSU players have a PGID range between 3150 and 3219. You have to assign the lowest unused number in that range to one of the players.

Another example, you have two BYU (TGID: 16) players with the same PGID. Player A is supposed to be on BYU, but Player B is supposed to be on Air Force (TGID: 1). The Player B will need to have the lowest unused PGID in Air Force's range (70-139).

If you don't notice the pattern in PGIDs and TGIDs, the PGID range can be figured out by the following formula*

TGID x 70 = first PGID for that TGID

first PGID + 69 = last PGID for that TGID

*I haven't looked at TeamBuilder PGIDs, so I don't know if this formula holds true

Using the formula:
Akron (TGID: 2) would have a PGID range of 140-209
Minnesota (TGID: 54) would have a PGID range of 3780-3849

[TarHeelPhenom]

Re: Duplicate Player ID's

So here's a dumb question. I did this and found about two dozen dups. But of the dups, only the second player is found in the main roster view (i.e. of the two dups, I can't find the first listed player in the main roster view, but I can find the second named player). So how do you delete the duplicates in Madden editor, or change the PGID of anybody so I can open the dynasty in the NCAA editor again?


*edit* Never mind. I found it. For anyone interested, here's what you do. Go to the third pull down to the right of 'filters', and find the team "new." These are graduated RS Seniors from last year whose only goal in life is messing with your save file. Delete them. All of them. Save your roster, and then you can open your Dynasty file and edit away.

You got it! Its a life saver for your dynasty...especially when you get to that year 5 and 6 range.

[TarHeelPhenom]

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That's a lot of duplicates, but you can't delete players in the editors.

Do you use practice mode with your teams? If 'yes', then your players are re-created and added to the file. They'll have the same PGIDs, but their TGID will either be in the 300s or 400s. They will basically sit in the file and never be removed. You can still edit the file, but I haven't seen where it will affect gameplay.

With your duplicates, it isn't always easy as assigning a different PGID. You need to match an unassigned PGID with the proper team and TGID.

As always, back up your file before you make changes. And take notes of all your moves and assigned PGIDs and TGIDs.

For example, you have two LSU (TGID: 45) players with the same PGID. Both players are supposed to be on LSU. LSU players have a PGID range between 3081 and 3150. You have to assign the lowest unused number in that range to one of the players.

Another example, you have two BYU (TGID: 16) players with the same PGID. Player A is supposed to be on BYU, but Player B is supposed to be on Air Force (TGID: 1). The Player B will need to have the lowest unused PGID in Air Force's range (1-70).

If you don't notice the pattern in PGIDs and TGIDs, the PGID range can be figured out by the following formula*

TGID x 70 = highest PGID for that TGID

highest PGID - 69 = lowest PGID for that TGID

*I haven't looked at TeamBuilder PGIDs, so I don't know if this formula holds true

Using the formula:
Akron (TGID: 2) would have a PGID range of 71-140
Minnesota (TGID: 54) would have a PGID range of 3711-3780

Yes you can. You can do it using either the Madden editor or dynasty editor. Ive made a couple of different roster conversions after simming dynasty for 5 years and each time the roster had duplicates that caused the game to freeze. Once I went in a deleted the duplicates and ran test dynasties it fixed the issue. You can def delete duplicates.

[JHamilton9]

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Yes you can. You can do it using either the Madden editor or dynasty editor. Ive made a couple of different roster conversions after simming dynasty for 5 years and each time the roster had duplicates that caused the game to freeze. Once I went in a deleted the duplicates and ran test dynasties it fixed the issue. You can def delete duplicates.

Wow. Every time I right click and delete a player and then save the file, I can't re-open and edit the players. I get the "unhandled expression error," but I can edit recruits, bowls, coaches, etc.

I need to take a closer look at this. The file I'm currently working on is a NCAA 12 file for PS3.

[TarHeelPhenom]

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Wow. Every time I right click and delete a player and then save the file, I can't re-open and edit the players. I get the "unhandled expression error," but I can edit recruits, bowls, coaches, etc.

I need to take a closer look at this. The file I'm currently working on is a NCAA 12 file for PS3.

Hmmm that's interesting. The roster i'm working on now is an NCAA 12 roster. I just happened to stumble across the duplicate check with the Madden editor and it saved a lot of work and time lol. Mine is for the 360. I wonder why you're getting the exception? Have you tried the Madden editor?

[Geaux Tigahs]

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Hmmm that's interesting. The roster i'm working on now is an NCAA 12 roster. I just happened to stumble across the duplicate check with the Madden editor and it saved a lot of work and time lol. Mine is for the 360. I wonder why you're getting the exception? Have you tried the Madden editor?

Where can I get the madden editor?

[TarHeelPhenom]

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Where can I get the madden editor?

here you go.

[ctdaprince]

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So here's a dumb question. I did this and found about two dozen dups. But of the dups, only the second player is found in the main roster view (i.e. of the two dups, I can't find the first listed player in the main roster view, but I can find the second named player). So how do you delete the duplicates in Madden editor, or change the PGID of anybody so I can open the dynasty in the NCAA editor again?


*edit* Never mind. I found it. For anyone interested, here's what you do. Go to the third pull down to the right of 'filters', and find the team "new." These are graduated RS Seniors from last year whose only goal in life is messing with your save file. Delete them. All of them. Save your roster, and then you can open your Dynasty file and edit away.

Ok I did this but every time I load it back into my 360 after deleting the players in the new* section it says my file is corrupted. Anyway to fix this ? Am I missing a step

[speedy43]

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Ran into an odd issue. I got ChubbyD's method to work in one season. The next season I come back and run the duplicate player function, see several duplicates, none of which are listed in the roster. But, when I go to change the 3rd filter box to "new" there is nothing there.

Has anyone seen this before?


Edit: So looking at the player IDs, they corresponded to some of my Teambuilder teams. I filtered by team and found those duplicates on those teams. Well, except for 2 that I can't find anywhere. Based on the ID, I know which team they belong to but they are not showing up in the roster view.

[Choppa21]

Re: Duplicate Player ID's

So here's a dumb question. I did this and found about two dozen dups. But of the dups, only the second player is found in the main roster view (i.e. of the two dups, I can't find the first listed player in the main roster view, but I can find the second named player). So how do you delete the duplicates in Madden editor, or change the PGID of anybody so I can open the dynasty in the NCAA editor again?


*edit* Never mind. I found it. For anyone interested, here's what you do. Go to the third pull down to the right of 'filters', and find the team "new." These are graduated RS Seniors from last year whose only goal in life is messing with your save file. Delete them. All of them. Save your roster, and then you can open your Dynasty file and edit away.

life safer bro ive been stressing past couple hours, shout out 2 u

[GAMEBREAKER85]

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I went to the new tab and deleted the list of players but I too am getting the corrupt file when trying to load my dynasty on my Xbox.

Please help

[TarHeelPhenom]

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I went to the new tab and deleted the list of players but I too am getting the corrupt file when trying to load my dynasty on my Xbox.

Please help

Whenever you use the Madden Reader to make in edits on an NCAA 14 file, you will have to use the Hex Editor(HxD) to make a change to the edited file so that it won't be corrupted. What you'll need is:

1) HxD editor.
2) An unedited version of the file that you are editing
3) Your edited file.

You will need to open both in HxD. You will notice that the second line on your unedited file is different from the second line on your edited file. You will need to copy the second line from your unedited file and Paste Write it onto the second line of your edited file and save. Once you do that and then Save/Rehash the file using Modio or Horizon, then you should be able to load the file back into the game.

If you're not familiar with any of this, here is a thread that you can check out right here...

https://forums.operationsports.com/f...ncaa-14-a.html

[GAMEBREAKER85]

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Tarheel, I tried.

The HxD directions worked for me to get the files loaded on my Xbox (I did have to change a number in the third column as well every time) - Thank You for the help.

However when I deleted players from the "New" Team list on the Madden editor, the files would load beautifully in the NCAA Dynasty Editor. Everything was spot on. However:

When you ran a duplicate number check - not all players were duplicates in the New Team Tab. I had Alabama as the original User Controlled team in the dynasty (I don't play as them but that's who I keep controlled); players from other depth charts went missing as well but this is the basics:

If I deleted all the players The RB#1, the C#1, The DT#1 and a few others would come up missing on the depth chart and the edit roster screen on the Xbox.

If I deleted only the Duplicate ID players on the New Team screen - The QB#1, LG#1, & CB#1 would go missing but the players that went missing when I deleted all of them appeared again.

Talk about making a guy nuts!