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Maynard · 07-30-2009, 11:23 AM

I have been testing sliders since the patch and I finally have a set that works to give a competitive and realistic game of football. I dont think I will be making any changes. Maybe a reduction in the Hum pass rush if I figure out how to get solid pressure within 3 seconds with my D Line

AA
7 Min Quarters
Chew Clock (used when needed)

QB Accuracy: This will allow you to see a difference in avg/good/great QB's. You will see errant passes and will have trouble if you make bad decisions.
Pass Block: I feel the CPU needs to be at 0 for a realistic rush. As OSU I struggle to get a pass rush unless I bring a blitz. My 4 down linemen dont get sacks. I usually get them from blitzing players.
WR Catching: Just not enough drops for my liking. At 45 I still see #3 WR getting hammered as they catch. 40 provides great results
RB Ability: The CPU run game is solid. Great backs will make you pay for poor play. The Human run game is also a challenge. You may want to lower Hum RB Ability to 50-55, but at 60 it provides a realistic challenge for me. This slider is combined with Rush Dee for results
Run Blocking: This seems to be the only slider EA got right

Pass Cover: These will force you to play a smart game and make good reads. These will also force the CPU to do the same and help prevent ROBO QB
Pass Rush: The CPU is perfect at 45, Users may want to lower the number if its to easy for them. But for me, this is the only way to get realistic results
Inter: This is perfect, you wont see those lame 1 handed INT's, but bad passes run the risk of an INT
Rush Dee: Again, the perfect balance imo. Combined with RB ability and Tackling, the great RB will light you up if you dont play them correctly. Dont expect to sit in zone dee all game playing the pass.
Tackle: I had user at 50, but the higher RB ability allowed to many broken tackles. 55 is perfect. The RB will get his yards, but not by break 10 tackles for Big Plays.

Kicking Game This is one area I feel is dead accurate with FG's. I checked longest made kicks by some of the best and worst kickers and these numbers allow for a realistic result. Great kickers will make their 45-50 yarders, while crappy kickers will be struggle. Most kickers were lucky to have a 40+ yarder all year. The human accuracy forces you to actually move the meter properly. Dont expect a gimmie on FG and punts

Penalties: the sliders below give me the best results.

My last 3 games with these sliders
USC at OSU L 38-33 (#1 ESPN Classic)
USC at OSU W 28-24 (I was down 24-0. McKnight had 173 yards against me)
OSU at USC W 24-21 (dee battle all game until the 4th...see stats below)

RECENT CHANGES
I raised CPU rush dee to 60 to help make the human run game a bit more difficult. I tried lowering hum RB Ability to 55, but it seemed like the cpu dominated the LOS with there lame *** awareness of my playcalling. So i kept RB ability at 60 and raised cpu rush dee instead. Seems to be doing the trick.

Lowered hum pass block to prevent me from having to much time in the pocket. Although at 40 it feels like the cpu is getting to me alot more then they should. If you dont have a running QB, u may want to stay at 45

Raised CPU pass accuracy to 25 because good QB were just to inaccurate. Also lowered human pass coverage to 75 to give more of a challenge on defense

Code:

QB Accuracy         15/25
Pass Block          40/10
WR Catch            40/40
RB Ability          60/60
Run Block           50/50

Pass Cover          75/70
Pass Rush          100/45
Inter               15/15
Rush Dee            15/60
Tackle              55/60

FG Power            30/30
FG Accur            25/50
Punt Power          50/55
Punt Accur          15/50
KO Power            40/45

offsides            100
false start         90
holding             50
facemask            55
Off Pass Inter      100
Dee Pass Inter      100    
Clipping            55
Int Grounding       75
Rough Pass          100
Rough Kick          100

Maynard · 07-30-2009, 11:24 AM

just to give you an idea of what im seeing with these sliders....
Stats generally speak for themself. I wish I had more saved, but I only found the avid dynasty manager a few days ago

Box Score

School	1st	2nd	3rd	4th	Final
Ohio State	3	7	0	14	24
USC	0	7	0	14	21

Scoring Summary

School	Play & Players	Time	Quarter
Buckeyes	54 FG A. Petrey	4:19	1
Trojans	24 Pass A. Corp to D. Williams	6:05	2
Buckeyes	12 Run B. Saine	3:15	2
Buckeyes	27 Pass T. Pryor to J. Martin	6:09	4
Trojans	1 Run J. McKnight	4:52	4
Buckeyes	1 Run D. Herron	4:04	4
Trojans	4 Run S. Havili	2:03	4

Game Statistics

	Ohio State	USC
Score	24	21
First Downs	13	14
Total Offense	326	340
Rushes-Yards	31-149	26-87
Comp-Att-TD	13-17-1	22-39-1
Passing Yards	177	253
Sacked	1	4
3rd Down Conv	6-10	6-15
4th Down Conv	0-0	2-3
2-Pt Conv	0-0	0-0
Redzone-TD-FG	2-2-0	2-2-0
Turnovers	2	0
Fumbles-Lost	0-0	0-0
Intercepted	2	0
PR Yards	34	5
KR Yards	141	132
Total Yards	501	477
Punts-Average	3-42.7	6-37.8
Penalties-Yards	8-56	2-15
T.O.P.	14:33	13:35

Ohio State Player Statistics

Passing	comp	att	yardage	TD	INT
Pryor, Terrelle	13	19	144	1	2

Rushing	att	yardage	TD	long
Saine, Brandon	15	77	1	17
Herron, Dan	8	38	0	11
Pryor, Terrelle	8	34	0	16

Receiving	rec	yardage	TD	long	drp
Small, Ray	4	38	0	14	2
Posey, DeVier	2	52	0	31	1
Martin, Jermil	1	27	1	27	0

Defensive	tackles	TFL	sacks
Coleman, Kurt	8	0	0
Howard, Travis	6	2	2
Moeller, Tyler	6	0	0
Russell, Anderson	6	0	0

Kicking	field goals	long	extra points
Pettrey, Aaron	1/1	54	3/3

Kick Returns	ret	yardage	long	TD
Saine, Brandon	2	97	83	0

USC Player Stats

Passing	comp	att	yardage	TD	INT
Aaron Corp	20	36	197	1	0

Rushing	att	yardage	TD	long	fum
Joe McKnight	21	107	1	15	0

Receiving	rec	yardage	TD	long	drp
Damian Williams	5	63	1	24	0
Anthony McCoy	5	36	0	21	3
David Ausberry	3	60	0	33	0
Brice Butler	3	34	0	21	2

Defensive	tackles	TFL	sacks	INT
Josh Pinkard	12	0	0	0
Chris Gallipo	6	0	0	1
Everson Griffith	5	3	1	0

Maynard · 07-30-2009, 11:29 AM

here is another one i saved. FYI this had Hum and CPU Rush dee at 35. I have since raised the CPU to 50 and lowered the Hum to 15

Box Score

School	1st	2nd	3rd	4th	OT 1	OT 2	OT 3	Final
Ohio State	7	7	7	3	7	7	0	38
Georgia	0	10	0	14	7	7	8	46

Scoring Summary

School	Play & Players	Time	Quarter
Buckeyes	53 Run B. Saine	5:12	1
Buckeyes	1 Run B. Saine	6:12	2
Bulldogs	25 FG B. Walsh	3:00	2
Bulldogs	3 Run R. Samuel	0:14	2
Buckeyes	3 Run B. Saine	2:37	3
Buckeyes	42 FG A. Pettrey	4:24	4
Bulldogs	8 Pass J. Cox to K. Dunham	2:27	4
Bulldogs	6 Pass J. Cox to R. Wooten	0:00	4
Bulldogs	13 Pass J. Cox to R. Samuel	-	OT 1
Buckeyes	14 Run B. Saine	-	OT 1
Buckeyes	6 Run B. Saine	-	OT 2
Bulldogs	5 Pass J. Cox to R. Samuel	-	OT 2
Bulldogs	14 Pass J. Cox to K. Dunham	-	OT 3

Game Statistics

	Ohio State	Georgia
Score	38	46
First Downs	17	20
Total Offense	406	411
Rushes-Yards	33-233	25-86
Comp-Att-TD	14-21-0	28-42-4
Passing Yards	173	325
Sacked	1	2
3rd Down Conv	3-6	4-12
4th Down Conv	0-0	2-2
2-Pt Conv	0-0	1-1
Redzone-TD-FG	5-4-1	7-6-1
Turnovers	4	3
Fumbles-Lost	2-2	0-0
Intercepted	2	3
PR Yards	4	11
KR Yards	72	89
Total Yards	482	511
Punts-Average	2-44	2-27.5
Penalties-Yards	12-98	6-65
T.O.P.	17:24	10:42

Maynard · 07-31-2009, 10:18 AM

getting really good feedback on these from The Tradition league members. I will post more stats as i get them

07-31-2009, 10:18 AM	#4
Maynard Banned OVR: 13 Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Cleveland	Re: Maynard's All American Sliders getting really good feedback on these from The Tradition league members. I will post more stats as i get them

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07-30-2009, 11:23 AM	#1
Maynard Banned OVR: 13 Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Cleveland	Maynard's All American Sliders I have been testing sliders since the patch and I finally have a set that works to give a competitive and realistic game of football. I dont think I will be making any changes. Maybe a reduction in the Hum pass rush if I figure out how to get solid pressure within 3 seconds with my D Line AA 7 Min Quarters Chew Clock (used when needed) QB Accuracy: This will allow you to see a difference in avg/good/great QB's. You will see errant passes and will have trouble if you make bad decisions. Pass Block: I feel the CPU needs to be at 0 for a realistic rush. As OSU I struggle to get a pass rush unless I bring a blitz. My 4 down linemen dont get sacks. I usually get them from blitzing players. WR Catching: Just not enough drops for my liking. At 45 I still see #3 WR getting hammered as they catch. 40 provides great results RB Ability: The CPU run game is solid. Great backs will make you pay for poor play. The Human run game is also a challenge. You may want to lower Hum RB Ability to 50-55, but at 60 it provides a realistic challenge for me. This slider is combined with Rush Dee for results Run Blocking: This seems to be the only slider EA got right Pass Cover: These will force you to play a smart game and make good reads. These will also force the CPU to do the same and help prevent ROBO QB Pass Rush: The CPU is perfect at 45, Users may want to lower the number if its to easy for them. But for me, this is the only way to get realistic results Inter: This is perfect, you wont see those lame 1 handed INT's, but bad passes run the risk of an INT Rush Dee: Again, the perfect balance imo. Combined with RB ability and Tackling, the great RB will light you up if you dont play them correctly. Dont expect to sit in zone dee all game playing the pass. Tackle: I had user at 50, but the higher RB ability allowed to many broken tackles. 55 is perfect. The RB will get his yards, but not by break 10 tackles for Big Plays. Kicking Game This is one area I feel is dead accurate with FG's. I checked longest made kicks by some of the best and worst kickers and these numbers allow for a realistic result. Great kickers will make their 45-50 yarders, while crappy kickers will be struggle. Most kickers were lucky to have a 40+ yarder all year. The human accuracy forces you to actually move the meter properly. Dont expect a gimmie on FG and punts Penalties: the sliders below give me the best results. My last 3 games with these sliders USC at OSU L 38-33 (#1 ESPN Classic) USC at OSU W 28-24 (I was down 24-0. McKnight had 173 yards against me) OSU at USC W 24-21 (dee battle all game until the 4th...see stats below) RECENT CHANGES I raised CPU rush dee to 60 to help make the human run game a bit more difficult. I tried lowering hum RB Ability to 55, but it seemed like the cpu dominated the LOS with there lame * awareness of my playcalling. So i kept RB ability at 60 and raised cpu rush dee instead. Seems to be doing the trick. Lowered hum pass block to prevent me from having to much time in the pocket. Although at 40 it feels like the cpu is getting to me alot more then they should. If you dont have a running QB, u may want to stay at 45 Raised CPU pass accuracy to 25 because good QB were just to inaccurate. Also lowered human pass coverage to 75 to give more of a challenge on defense Code: QB Accuracy 15/25 Pass Block 40/10** WR Catch 40/40 RB Ability 60/60 Run Block 50/50 Pass Cover 75/70 Pass Rush 100/45 Inter 15/15 Rush Dee 15/60 Tackle 55/60 FG Power 30/30 FG Accur 25/50 Punt Power 50/55 Punt Accur 15/50 KO Power 40/45 offsides 100 false start 90 holding 50 facemask 55 Off Pass Inter 100 Dee Pass Inter 100 Clipping 55 Int Grounding 75 Rough Pass 100 Rough Kick 100 Last edited by Maynard; 08-11-2009 at 03:30 PM.

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