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Old 07-22-2009, 02:13 PM   #1
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accurate r/p sliders for 2010 (work in progress)

alright, so i wanted some accurate r/p ratios for 2010 like hook'em horns (i think that is correct, sorry if not) did for 2009.

so far i have the real-life r/p ratios for all teams straight from ncaa official website, and adjusted for sacks allowed.

i also have all the coaching changes for this year, but have not adjusted for those yet.
link for coaching changes

COACHING CHANGES FOR 2009 SEASON
TEAM
OUT
IN
Army
Stan Brock - Story
Rich Ellerson - Story
Auburn
Tommy Tuberville - Story
Gene Chizik - Story
Ball State
Brady Hoke - Story
Stan Parrish - Story
Boston College
Jeff Jagodzinski - Story
Frank Spaziani - Story
Bowling Green
Gregg Bandon - Story
Dave Clawson - Story
Clemson
Tommy Bowden - Story
Dabo Swinney (interim) - Story
Dabo Swinney (official head coach) - Story
Eastern Michigan
Jeff Genyk - Story
Ron English - Story
Iowa State
Gene Chizik - Story
Paul Rhoads - Story
Kansas State
Ron Prince - Story
Bill Snyder - Story
Miami (O.)
Shane Montgomery - Story
Michael Haywood - Story
Mississippi State
Sylvester Croom - Story
Dan Mullen - Story
New Mexico
Rocky Long - Story
Mike Locksley - Story
New Mexico State
Hal Mumme - Story
DeWayne Walker - Story
Oregon
Mike Bellotti - Story
Chip Kelly - Story
*-Purdue
Joe Tiller
Danny Hope
San Diego State
Chuck Long - Story
Brady Hoke - Story
Syracuse
Greg Robinson - Story
Doug Marrone - Story
Tennessee
Phillip Fulmer - Story
Lane Kiffin - Story
Toledo
Tom Amstutz - Story
Tim Beckman - Story
Utah State
Brent Guy - Story
Gary Andersen - Story
Washington
Tyrone Willingham - Story
Steve Sarkisian - Story
Wyoming
Joe Glenn - Story
Dave Christensen - Story


real-life r/p ratios:










updated for sacks


team
run att
pass att
total plays
sacks allow
rush att
pass att
run ratio pass ratio
Air Force
777
138
915
5
772
143
84% 16%
Akron
435
404
839
18
417
422
50% 50%
Alabama
568
334
902
25
543
359
60% 40%
Arizona
504
412
916
28
476
440
52% 48%
Arizona St.
369
395
764
34
335
429
44% 56%
Arkansas
378
443
821
46
332
489
40% 60%
Arkansas St.
488
308
796
29
459
337
58% 42%
Army
635
128
763
12
623
140
82% 18%
Auburn
469
341
810
21
448
362
55% 45%
Ball St.
520
405
925
14
506
419
55% 45%
Baylor
481
290
771
28
453
318
59% 41%
Boise St.
449
438
887
13
436
451
49% 51%
Boston College
518
448
966
22
496
470
51% 49%
Bowling Green
407
411
818
22
385
433
47% 53%
Buffalo
486
472
958
30
456
502
48% 52%
BYU
424
493
917
20
404
513
44% 56%
California
435
397
832
25
410
422
49% 51%
Central Mich.
484
480
964
31
453
511
47% 53%
Cincinnati
455
472
927
31
424
503
46% 54%
Clemson
431
400
831
33
398
433
48% 52%
Colorado
439
404
843
30
409
434
49% 51%
Colorado St.
456
427
883
26
430
453
49% 51%
Connecticut
556
329
885
15
541
344
61% 39%
Duke
419
410
829
22
397
432
48% 52%
East Carolina
518
418
936
29
489
447
52% 48%
Eastern Mich.
418
499
917
19
399
518
44% 56%
Fla. Atlantic
416
457
873
16
400
473
46% 54%
Florida
545
329
874
16
529
345
61% 39%
Florida Int'l
418
353
771
28
390
381
51% 49%
Florida St.
483
387
870
26
457
413
53% 47%
Fresno St.
479
372
851
17
462
389
54% 46%
Georgia
426
400
826
17
409
417
50% 50%
Georgia Tech
640
165
805
19
621
184
77% 23%
Hawaii
412
490
902
57
355
547
39% 61%
Houston
406
610
1016
27
379
637
37% 63%
Idaho
425
379
804
36
389
415
48% 52%
Illinois
460
393
853
25
435
418
51% 49%
Indiana
445
358
803
28
417
386
52% 48%
Iowa
515
320
835
27
488
347
58% 42%
Iowa St.
403
438
841
19
384
457
46% 54%
Kansas
445
500
945
31
414
531
44% 56%
Kansas St.
408
425
833
16
392
441
47% 53%
Kent St.
527
300
827
21
506
321
61% 39%
Kentucky
444
415
859
13
431
428
50% 50%
La.-Lafayette
533
288
821
21
512
309
62% 38%
La.-Monroe
424
347
771
31
393
378
51% 49%
Louisiana Tech
523
343
866
25
498
368
58% 42%
Louisville
454
391
845
21
433
412
51% 49%
LSU
495
391
886
22
473
413
53% 47%
Marshall
423
351
774
13
410
364
53% 47%
Maryland
435
399
834
28
407
427
49% 51%
Memphis
540
437
977
17
523
454
54% 46%
Miami (Fla.)
426
411
837
27
399
438
48% 52%
Miami (Ohio)
376
461
837
19
357
480
43% 57%
Michigan
453
338
791
22
431
360
54% 46%
Michigan St.
511
399
910
24
487
423
54% 46%
Middle Tenn. St.
412
414
826
15
397
429
48% 52%
Minnesota
436
415
851
30
406
445
48% 52%
Mississippi
520
340
860
20
500
360
58% 42%
Mississippi St.
398
384
782
37
361
421
46% 54%
Missouri
417
565
982
17
400
582
41% 59%
Navy
715
93
808
10
705
103
87% 13%
Nebraska
486
433
919
21
465
454
51% 49%
Nevada
593
418
1011
19
574
437
57% 43%
New Mexico
540
289
829
18
522
307
63% 37%
New Mexico St.
318
492
810
45
273
537
34% 66%
North Carolina
451
320
771
28
423
348
55% 45%
North Carolina St.
442
392
834
29
413
421
50% 50%
North Texas
370
514
884
25
345
539
39% 61%
Northern Ill.
501
312
813
16
485
328
60% 40%
Northwestern
491
458
949
22
469
480
49% 51%
Notre Dame
436
447
883
22
414
469
47% 53%
Ohio
392
386
778
24
368
410
47% 53%
Ohio St.
540
267
807
29
511
296
63% 37%
Oklahoma
589
517
1106
13
576
530
52% 48%
Oklahoma St.
582
326
908
16
566
342
62% 38%
Oregon
585
373
958
20
565
393
59% 41%
Oregon St.
487
448
935
21
466
469
50% 50%
Penn St.
511
383
894
13
498
396
56% 44%
Pittsburgh
492
381
873
32
460
413
53% 47%
Purdue
392
502
894
24
368
526
41% 59%
Rice
449
516
965
29
420
545
44% 56%
Rutgers
423
415
838
19
404
434
48% 52%
San Diego St.
284
489
773
21
263
510
34% 66%
San Jose St.
386
383
769
31
355
414
46% 54%
SMU
217
476
693
27
190
503
27% 73%
South Carolina
417
452
869
39
378
491
43% 57%
South Fla.
518
407
925
29
489
436
53% 47%
Southern California
503
388
891
18
485
406
54% 46%
Southern Miss.
531
457
988
30
501
487
51% 49%
Stanford
490
287
777
21
469
308
60% 40%
Syracuse
392
299
691
29
363
328
53% 47%
TCU
642
371
1013
18
624
389
62% 38%
Temple
413
339
752
29
384
368
51% 49%
Tennessee
409
309
718
25
384
334
53% 47%
Texas
508
447
955
26
482
473
50% 50%
Texas A&M
365
412
777
39
326
451
42% 58%
Texas Tech
317
662
979
13
304
675
31% 69%
Toledo
375
381
756
16
359
397
47% 53%
Troy
448
524
972
13
435
537
45% 55%
Tulane
399
409
808
21
378
430
47% 53%
Tulsa
674
423
1097
24
650
447
59% 41%
UAB
435
353
788
23
412
376
52% 48%
UCF
453
308
761
33
420
341
55% 45%
UCLA
379
433
812
35
344
468
42% 58%
UNLV
404
385
789
14
390
399
49% 51%
Utah
499
414
913
25
474
439
52% 48%
Utah St.
437
342
779
32
405
374
52% 48%
UTEP
371
448
819
27
344
475
42% 58%
Vanderbilt
471
319
790
27
444
346
56% 44%
Virginia
339
439
778
16
323
455
42% 58%
Virginia Tech
645
291
936
42
603
333
64% 36%
Wake Forest
515
370
885
30
485
400
55% 45%
Washington
419
366
785
31
388
397
49% 51%
Washington St.
450
361
811
43
407
404
50% 50%
West Virginia
517
305
822
18
499
323
61% 39%
Western Ky.
428
318
746
25
403
343
54% 46%
Western Mich.
358
535
893
14
344
549
39% 61%
Wisconsin
567
333
900
29
538
362
60% 40%
Wyoming
502
277
779
18
484
295
62% 38%


what i dont have is the sliders that will make these accurate for the game, and i will be working on that over the next several weeks, using hookem's 09 as a base.

please, if you would like to have these, do some tests on your own. use hookems as a base. link is above. EDIT: im an idiot, link is not above, it is here (scroll half way down page for his post)

also could use some help on what ratios for new coaches/coaching changes should look like.

i.e. mullen at miss st should be similar to fl, since he was ocoord at fl.

Last edited by theharbinater; 07-22-2009 at 02:17 PM. Reason: add link
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Old 07-22-2009, 07:13 PM   #2
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Re: accurate r/p sliders for 2010 (work in progress)

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Originally Posted by theharbinater
alright, so i wanted some accurate r/p ratios for 2010 like hook'em horns (i think that is correct, sorry if not) did for 2009.

so far i have the real-life r/p ratios for all teams straight from ncaa official website, and adjusted for sacks allowed.

i also have all the coaching changes for this year, but have not adjusted for those yet.
link for coaching changes

COACHING CHANGES FOR 2009 SEASON

TEAM


OUT


IN


Army


Stan Brock - Story


Rich Ellerson - Story


Auburn


Tommy Tuberville - Story


Gene Chizik - Story


Ball State


Brady Hoke - Story


Stan Parrish - Story


Boston College


Jeff Jagodzinski - Story


Frank Spaziani - Story


Bowling Green


Gregg Bandon - Story


Dave Clawson - Story


Clemson


Tommy Bowden - Story


Dabo Swinney (interim) - Story

Dabo Swinney (official head coach) - Story

Eastern Michigan


Jeff Genyk - Story


Ron English - Story


Iowa State


Gene Chizik - Story


Paul Rhoads - Story


Kansas State


Ron Prince - Story


Bill Snyder - Story


Miami (O.)


Shane Montgomery - Story


Michael Haywood - Story


Mississippi State


Sylvester Croom - Story


Dan Mullen - Story


New Mexico


Rocky Long - Story


Mike Locksley - Story


New Mexico State


Hal Mumme - Story


DeWayne Walker - Story


Oregon


Mike Bellotti - Story


Chip Kelly - Story


*-Purdue


Joe Tiller


Danny Hope


San Diego State


Chuck Long - Story


Brady Hoke - Story


Syracuse


Greg Robinson - Story


Doug Marrone - Story


Tennessee


Phillip Fulmer - Story


Lane Kiffin - Story


Toledo


Tom Amstutz - Story


Tim Beckman - Story


Utah State


Brent Guy - Story


Gary Andersen - Story


Washington


Tyrone Willingham - Story


Steve Sarkisian - Story


Wyoming


Joe Glenn - Story


Dave Christensen - Story



real-life r/p ratios:




















updated for sacks





team

run att

pass att

total plays

sacks allow

rush att

pass att

run ratiopass ratio
Air Force

777

138

915

5

772

143

84%16%
Akron

435

404

839

18

417

422

50%50%
Alabama

568

334

902

25

543

359

60%40%
Arizona

504

412

916

28

476

440

52%48%
Arizona St.

369

395

764

34

335

429

44%56%
Arkansas

378

443

821

46

332

489

40%60%
Arkansas St.

488

308

796

29

459

337

58%42%
Army

635

128

763

12

623

140

82%18%
Auburn

469

341

810

21

448

362

55%45%
Ball St.

520

405

925

14

506

419

55%45%
Baylor

481

290

771

28

453

318

59%41%
Boise St.

449

438

887

13

436

451

49%51%
Boston College

518

448

966

22

496

470

51%49%
Bowling Green

407

411

818

22

385

433

47%53%
Buffalo

486

472

958

30

456

502

48%52%
BYU

424

493

917

20

404

513

44%56%
California

435

397

832

25

410

422

49%51%
Central Mich.

484

480

964

31

453

511

47%53%
Cincinnati

455

472

927

31

424

503

46%54%
Clemson

431

400

831

33

398

433

48%52%
Colorado

439

404

843

30

409

434

49%51%
Colorado St.

456

427

883

26

430

453

49%51%
Connecticut

556

329

885

15

541

344

61%39%
Duke

419

410

829

22

397

432

48%52%
East Carolina

518

418

936

29

489

447

52%48%
Eastern Mich.

418

499

917

19

399

518

44%56%
Fla. Atlantic

416

457

873

16

400

473

46%54%
Florida

545

329

874

16

529

345

61%39%
Florida Int'l

418

353

771

28

390

381

51%49%
Florida St.

483

387

870

26

457

413

53%47%
Fresno St.

479

372

851

17

462

389

54%46%
Georgia

426

400

826

17

409

417

50%50%
Georgia Tech

640

165

805

19

621

184

77%23%
Hawaii

412

490

902

57

355

547

39%61%
Houston

406

610

1016

27

379

637

37%63%
Idaho

425

379

804

36

389

415

48%52%
Illinois

460

393

853

25

435

418

51%49%
Indiana

445

358

803

28

417

386

52%48%
Iowa

515

320

835

27

488

347

58%42%
Iowa St.

403

438

841

19

384

457

46%54%
Kansas

445

500

945

31

414

531

44%56%
Kansas St.

408

425

833

16

392

441

47%53%
Kent St.

527

300

827

21

506

321

61%39%
Kentucky

444

415

859

13

431

428

50%50%
La.-Lafayette

533

288

821

21

512

309

62%38%
La.-Monroe

424

347

771

31

393

378

51%49%
Louisiana Tech

523

343

866

25

498

368

58%42%
Louisville

454

391

845

21

433

412

51%49%
LSU

495

391

886

22

473

413

53%47%
Marshall

423

351

774

13

410

364

53%47%
Maryland

435

399

834

28

407

427

49%51%
Memphis

540

437

977

17

523

454

54%46%
Miami (Fla.)

426

411

837

27

399

438

48%52%
Miami (Ohio)

376

461

837

19

357

480

43%57%
Michigan

453

338

791

22

431

360

54%46%
Michigan St.

511

399

910

24

487

423

54%46%
Middle Tenn. St.

412

414

826

15

397

429

48%52%
Minnesota

436

415

851

30

406

445

48%52%
Mississippi

520

340

860

20

500

360

58%42%
Mississippi St.

398

384

782

37

361

421

46%54%
Missouri

417

565

982

17

400

582

41%59%
Navy

715

93

808

10

705

103

87%13%
Nebraska

486

433

919

21

465

454

51%49%
Nevada

593

418

1011

19

574

437

57%43%
New Mexico

540

289

829

18

522

307

63%37%
New Mexico St.

318

492

810

45

273

537

34%66%
North Carolina

451

320

771

28

423

348

55%45%
North Carolina St.

442

392

834

29

413

421

50%50%
North Texas

370

514

884

25

345

539

39%61%
Northern Ill.

501

312

813

16

485

328

60%40%
Northwestern

491

458

949

22

469

480

49%51%
Notre Dame

436

447

883

22

414

469

47%53%
Ohio

392

386

778

24

368

410

47%53%
Ohio St.

540

267

807

29

511

296

63%37%
Oklahoma

589

517

1106

13

576

530

52%48%
Oklahoma St.

582

326

908

16

566

342

62%38%
Oregon

585

373

958

20

565

393

59%41%
Oregon St.

487

448

935

21

466

469

50%50%
Penn St.

511

383

894

13

498

396

56%44%
Pittsburgh

492

381

873

32

460

413

53%47%
Purdue

392

502

894

24

368

526

41%59%
Rice

449

516

965

29

420

545

44%56%
Rutgers

423

415

838

19

404

434

48%52%
San Diego St.

284

489

773

21

263

510

34%66%
San Jose St.

386

383

769

31

355

414

46%54%
SMU

217

476

693

27

190

503

27%73%
South Carolina

417

452

869

39

378

491

43%57%
South Fla.

518

407

925

29

489

436

53%47%
Southern California

503

388

891

18

485

406

54%46%
Southern Miss.

531

457

988

30

501

487

51%49%
Stanford

490

287

777

21

469

308

60%40%
Syracuse

392

299

691

29

363

328

53%47%
TCU

642

371

1013

18

624

389

62%38%
Temple

413

339

752

29

384

368

51%49%
Tennessee

409

309

718

25

384

334

53%47%
Texas

508

447

955

26

482

473

50%50%
Texas A&M

365

412

777

39

326

451

42%58%
Texas Tech

317

662

979

13

304

675

31%69%
Toledo

375

381

756

16

359

397

47%53%
Troy

448

524

972

13

435

537

45%55%
Tulane

399

409

808

21

378

430

47%53%
Tulsa

674

423

1097

24

650

447

59%41%
UAB

435

353

788

23

412

376

52%48%
UCF

453

308

761

33

420

341

55%45%
UCLA

379

433

812

35

344

468

42%58%
UNLV

404

385

789

14

390

399

49%51%
Utah

499

414

913

25

474

439

52%48%
Utah St.

437

342

779

32

405

374

52%48%
UTEP

371

448

819

27

344

475

42%58%
Vanderbilt

471

319

790

27

444

346

56%44%
Virginia

339

439

778

16

323

455

42%58%
Virginia Tech

645

291

936

42

603

333

64%36%
Wake Forest

515

370

885

30

485

400

55%45%
Washington

419

366

785

31

388

397

49%51%
Washington St.

450

361

811

43

407

404

50%50%
West Virginia

517

305

822

18

499

323

61%39%
Western Ky.

428

318

746

25

403

343

54%46%
Western Mich.

358

535

893

14

344

549

39%61%
Wisconsin

567

333

900

29

538

362

60%40%
Wyoming

502

277

779

18

484

295

62%38%


what i dont have is the sliders that will make these accurate for the game, and i will be working on that over the next several weeks, using hookem's 09 as a base.

please, if you would like to have these, do some tests on your own. use hookems as a base. link is above. EDIT: im an idiot, link is not above, it is here (scroll half way down page for his post)

also could use some help on what ratios for new coaches/coaching changes should look like.

i.e. mullen at miss st should be similar to fl, since he was ocoord at fl.
Looks good, keep us posted.
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I just updated the pass/run ratio table with new coach hires and offensive philosophies.

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Do these help just for sim or do they help when actually playing the computer?
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Hey Harninater

I wanted to post the sliders I came up with so you can take a look.

I have updated the list below to reflect the changes for NCAA10. I used the run/pass ratio's adjusted for sacks for each teams complete season stats. I have also reflected all of the coaching changes for the upcoming season which I explained in a previous post.

From what I can tell EA did a good job making the slider directly correlate to the % of passes a team will throw during the season. So if you set the slider at 40 then the team should be expected to throw 40% passes and 60% runs. After simming multiple seasons with multiple sliders these sliders have been pretty accurate.

One thing to note is the extremes such as sliders under 30 or over 70 do not seem to be as accurate but there are not many teams with run/pass ratios that high.

Also, the lowest you can go is 15 which still didnt give me the results I was looking for option teams that run the ball 80-90% of the time (i.e. Air Force, Navy, G-Tech) With that said each of these teams are put to 15 which usually results in a 75/25 run/pass ratio which isnt bad.

NOTE: To change a rating from an off number(47, 48, 53) to an on number(45,50,55) take the slider all the way down to 15 then back up by 5's to whatever number is required. Hope that makes sense.


If you are getting different results please post.


TEAMRUN/PASS SLIDEROFF TYPE
Air Force15Option Run
Akron50
Spread Offense
Alabama40Balanced
Arizona47Spread Offense
Arizona State55Spread Offense
Arkansas60Balanced
Arkansas State43Option Run
Army15Option Run
Auburn40Spread Offense
Ball State45
Spread Offense
Baylor42Spread Offense
Boise State52
West Coast
Boston College50
West Coast
Bowling Green55Balanced
Buffalo55Balanced
BYU55Spread Offense
California52West Coast
Central Michigan55Spread Offense
Cincinnati55Spread Offense
Clemson53
Spread Offense
Colorado50
Balanced
Colorado State50
Balanced
Connecticut40
Balanced
Duke50
Balanced
East Carolina50Spread Offense
Eastern Michigan55Balanced
Florida40
Option Run
Florida Atlantic52
West Coast
Florida International50
Spread Offense
Florida State47Balanced
Fresno State45Balanced
Georgia50
Balanced
Georgia Tech15Option Run
Hawai'i65
Spread Offense
Houston65Spread Offense
Idaho50
Spread Offense
Illinois50Spread Offense
Indiana50
Spread Offense
Iowa40
Balanced
Iowa State55
Spread Offense
Kansas57
Spread Offense
Kansas State50Spread Offense
Kent State40Spread Offense
Kentucky52
Balanced
Louisiana Tech43Spread Offense
Louisiana-Lafayette39Option Run
Louisiana-Monroe48Option Run
Louisville50
Balanced
LSU50
Balanced
Marshall50
Spread Offense
Maryland52
West Coast
Memphis46Spread Offense
Miami (Florida)50
Balanced
Miami (Ohio)55Balanced
Michigan45
Option Run
Michigan State47Balanced
Middle Tennessee50Spread Offense
Minnesota52Balanced
Mississippi42Balanced
Mississippi State40Spread Offense
Missouri60
Spread Offense
Navy15Option Run
Nebraska50
West Coast
Nevada44
Spread Offense
New Mexico51Spread Offense
New Mexico State52
Spread Offense
North Carolina45
Balanced
North Carolina State50
West Coast
North Texas60
Spread Offense
Northern Illinois40Balanced
Northwestern50
Spread Offense
Notre Dame55Balanced
Ohio55Balanced
Ohio State35Balanced
Oklahoma50
Balanced
Oklahoma State40
Spread Offense
Oregon40
Spread Offense
Oregon State50
Balanced
Penn State45
Balanced
Pittsburgh46West Coast
Purdue60
Spread Offense
Rice55Spread Offense
Rutgers50
Balanced
San Diego State55West Coast
San Jose State54West Coast
SMU80Spread Offense
South Carolina60Balanced
South Florida46Spread Offense
Southern Mississippi50Spread Offense
Stanford40
West Coast
Syracuse50Spread Offense
TCU40Balanced
Temple50
Balanced
Tennessee50
West Coast
Texas52Spread Offense
Texas A&M60West Coast
Texas Tech75
Spread Offense
Toledo55
Spread Offense
Troy55Spread Offense
Tulane53West Coast
Tulsa42Spread Offense
UAB51Spread Offense
UCF45Balanced
UCLA58West Coast
UNLV50Spread Offense
USC50West Coast
Utah50Spread Offense
Utah State50Spread Offense
UTEP57Spread Offense
Vanderbilt45Spread Offense
Virginia59Spread Offense
Virginia Tech35Balanced
Wake Forest45Balanced
Washington50West Coast
Washington State50Spread Offense
Western Kentucky45Spread Offense
West Virginia40
Option Run
Western Michigan62Option Run
Wisconsin40Balanced
Wyoming60Spread Offense

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On that same page where we input run/pass ratios, it gives us the option for substitution rate. Has any one messed with it?
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i dont believe the substitution rate works from what i could tell as far as simulating.
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thanks for your work guys! will definately use it in my dynasty!
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