accurate r/p sliders for 2010 (work in progress)

[theharbinater]

alright, so i wanted some accurate r/p ratios for 2010 like hook'em horns (i think that is correct, sorry if not) did for 2009.

so far i have the real-life r/p ratios for all teams straight from ncaa official website, and adjusted for sacks allowed.

i also have all the coaching changes for this year, but have not adjusted for those yet.
link for coaching changes

COACHING CHANGES FOR 2009 SEASON
TEAM	OUT	IN
Army	Stan Brock - Story	Rich Ellerson - Story
Auburn	Tommy Tuberville - Story	Gene Chizik - Story
Ball State	Brady Hoke - Story	Stan Parrish - Story
Boston College	Jeff Jagodzinski - Story	Frank Spaziani - Story
Bowling Green	Gregg Bandon - Story	Dave Clawson - Story
Clemson	Tommy Bowden - Story	Dabo Swinney (interim) - Story Dabo Swinney (official head coach) - Story
Eastern Michigan	Jeff Genyk - Story	Ron English - Story
Iowa State	Gene Chizik - Story	Paul Rhoads - Story
Kansas State	Ron Prince - Story	Bill Snyder - Story
Miami (O.)	Shane Montgomery - Story	Michael Haywood - Story
Mississippi State	Sylvester Croom - Story	Dan Mullen - Story
New Mexico	Rocky Long - Story	Mike Locksley - Story
New Mexico State	Hal Mumme - Story	DeWayne Walker - Story
Oregon	Mike Bellotti - Story	Chip Kelly - Story
*-Purdue	Joe Tiller	Danny Hope
San Diego State	Chuck Long - Story	Brady Hoke - Story
Syracuse	Greg Robinson - Story	Doug Marrone - Story
Tennessee	Phillip Fulmer - Story	Lane Kiffin - Story
Toledo	Tom Amstutz - Story	Tim Beckman - Story
Utah State	Brent Guy - Story	Gary Andersen - Story
Washington	Tyrone Willingham - Story	Steve Sarkisian - Story
Wyoming	Joe Glenn - Story	Dave Christensen - Story

real-life r/p ratios:

										updated for sacks
team		run att		pass att		total plays		sacks allow		rush att		pass att		run ratio	pass ratio
Air Force		777		138		915		5		772		143		84%	16%
Akron		435		404		839		18		417		422		50%	50%
Alabama		568		334		902		25		543		359		60%	40%
Arizona		504		412		916		28		476		440		52%	48%
Arizona St.		369		395		764		34		335		429		44%	56%
Arkansas		378		443		821		46		332		489		40%	60%
Arkansas St.		488		308		796		29		459		337		58%	42%
Army		635		128		763		12		623		140		82%	18%
Auburn		469		341		810		21		448		362		55%	45%
Ball St.		520		405		925		14		506		419		55%	45%
Baylor		481		290		771		28		453		318		59%	41%
Boise St.		449		438		887		13		436		451		49%	51%
Boston College		518		448		966		22		496		470		51%	49%
Bowling Green		407		411		818		22		385		433		47%	53%
Buffalo		486		472		958		30		456		502		48%	52%
BYU		424		493		917		20		404		513		44%	56%
California		435		397		832		25		410		422		49%	51%
Central Mich.		484		480		964		31		453		511		47%	53%
Cincinnati		455		472		927		31		424		503		46%	54%
Clemson		431		400		831		33		398		433		48%	52%
Colorado		439		404		843		30		409		434		49%	51%
Colorado St.		456		427		883		26		430		453		49%	51%
Connecticut		556		329		885		15		541		344		61%	39%
Duke		419		410		829		22		397		432		48%	52%
East Carolina		518		418		936		29		489		447		52%	48%
Eastern Mich.		418		499		917		19		399		518		44%	56%
Fla. Atlantic		416		457		873		16		400		473		46%	54%
Florida		545		329		874		16		529		345		61%	39%
Florida Int'l		418		353		771		28		390		381		51%	49%
Florida St.		483		387		870		26		457		413		53%	47%
Fresno St.		479		372		851		17		462		389		54%	46%
Georgia		426		400		826		17		409		417		50%	50%
Georgia Tech		640		165		805		19		621		184		77%	23%
Hawaii		412		490		902		57		355		547		39%	61%
Houston		406		610		1016		27		379		637		37%	63%
Idaho		425		379		804		36		389		415		48%	52%
Illinois		460		393		853		25		435		418		51%	49%
Indiana		445		358		803		28		417		386		52%	48%
Iowa		515		320		835		27		488		347		58%	42%
Iowa St.		403		438		841		19		384		457		46%	54%
Kansas		445		500		945		31		414		531		44%	56%
Kansas St.		408		425		833		16		392		441		47%	53%
Kent St.		527		300		827		21		506		321		61%	39%
Kentucky		444		415		859		13		431		428		50%	50%
La.-Lafayette		533		288		821		21		512		309		62%	38%
La.-Monroe		424		347		771		31		393		378		51%	49%
Louisiana Tech		523		343		866		25		498		368		58%	42%
Louisville		454		391		845		21		433		412		51%	49%
LSU		495		391		886		22		473		413		53%	47%
Marshall		423		351		774		13		410		364		53%	47%
Maryland		435		399		834		28		407		427		49%	51%
Memphis		540		437		977		17		523		454		54%	46%
Miami (Fla.)		426		411		837		27		399		438		48%	52%
Miami (Ohio)		376		461		837		19		357		480		43%	57%
Michigan		453		338		791		22		431		360		54%	46%
Michigan St.		511		399		910		24		487		423		54%	46%
Middle Tenn. St.		412		414		826		15		397		429		48%	52%
Minnesota		436		415		851		30		406		445		48%	52%
Mississippi		520		340		860		20		500		360		58%	42%
Mississippi St.		398		384		782		37		361		421		46%	54%
Missouri		417		565		982		17		400		582		41%	59%
Navy		715		93		808		10		705		103		87%	13%
Nebraska		486		433		919		21		465		454		51%	49%
Nevada		593		418		1011		19		574		437		57%	43%
New Mexico		540		289		829		18		522		307		63%	37%
New Mexico St.		318		492		810		45		273		537		34%	66%
North Carolina		451		320		771		28		423		348		55%	45%
North Carolina St.		442		392		834		29		413		421		50%	50%
North Texas		370		514		884		25		345		539		39%	61%
Northern Ill.		501		312		813		16		485		328		60%	40%
Northwestern		491		458		949		22		469		480		49%	51%
Notre Dame		436		447		883		22		414		469		47%	53%
Ohio		392		386		778		24		368		410		47%	53%
Ohio St.		540		267		807		29		511		296		63%	37%
Oklahoma		589		517		1106		13		576		530		52%	48%
Oklahoma St.		582		326		908		16		566		342		62%	38%
Oregon		585		373		958		20		565		393		59%	41%
Oregon St.		487		448		935		21		466		469		50%	50%
Penn St.		511		383		894		13		498		396		56%	44%
Pittsburgh		492		381		873		32		460		413		53%	47%
Purdue		392		502		894		24		368		526		41%	59%
Rice		449		516		965		29		420		545		44%	56%
Rutgers		423		415		838		19		404		434		48%	52%
San Diego St.		284		489		773		21		263		510		34%	66%
San Jose St.		386		383		769		31		355		414		46%	54%
SMU		217		476		693		27		190		503		27%	73%
South Carolina		417		452		869		39		378		491		43%	57%
South Fla.		518		407		925		29		489		436		53%	47%
Southern California		503		388		891		18		485		406		54%	46%
Southern Miss.		531		457		988		30		501		487		51%	49%
Stanford		490		287		777		21		469		308		60%	40%
Syracuse		392		299		691		29		363		328		53%	47%
TCU		642		371		1013		18		624		389		62%	38%
Temple		413		339		752		29		384		368		51%	49%
Tennessee		409		309		718		25		384		334		53%	47%
Texas		508		447		955		26		482		473		50%	50%
Texas A&M		365		412		777		39		326		451		42%	58%
Texas Tech		317		662		979		13		304		675		31%	69%
Toledo		375		381		756		16		359		397		47%	53%
Troy		448		524		972		13		435		537		45%	55%
Tulane		399		409		808		21		378		430		47%	53%
Tulsa		674		423		1097		24		650		447		59%	41%
UAB		435		353		788		23		412		376		52%	48%
UCF		453		308		761		33		420		341		55%	45%
UCLA		379		433		812		35		344		468		42%	58%
UNLV		404		385		789		14		390		399		49%	51%
Utah		499		414		913		25		474		439		52%	48%
Utah St.		437		342		779		32		405		374		52%	48%
UTEP		371		448		819		27		344		475		42%	58%
Vanderbilt		471		319		790		27		444		346		56%	44%
Virginia		339		439		778		16		323		455		42%	58%
Virginia Tech		645		291		936		42		603		333		64%	36%
Wake Forest		515		370		885		30		485		400		55%	45%
Washington		419		366		785		31		388		397		49%	51%
Washington St.		450		361		811		43		407		404		50%	50%
West Virginia		517		305		822		18		499		323		61%	39%
Western Ky.		428		318		746		25		403		343		54%	46%
Western Mich.		358		535		893		14		344		549		39%	61%
Wisconsin		567		333		900		29		538		362		60%	40%
Wyoming		502		277		779		18		484		295		62%	38%

what i dont have is the sliders that will make these accurate for the game, and i will be working on that over the next several weeks, using hookem's 09 as a base.

please, if you would like to have these, do some tests on your own. use hookems as a base. link is above. EDIT: im an idiot, link is not above, it is here (scroll half way down page for his post)

also could use some help on what ratios for new coaches/coaching changes should look like.

i.e. mullen at miss st should be similar to fl, since he was ocoord at fl.

[sj7]

Quote: Originally Posted by theharbinater

alright, so i wanted some accurate r/p ratios for 2010 like hook'em horns (i think that is correct, sorry if not) did for 2009. so far i have the real-life r/p ratios for all teams straight from ncaa official website, and adjusted for sacks allowed. i also have all the coaching changes for this year, but have not adjusted for those yet. link for coaching changes COACHING CHANGES FOR 2009 SEASON TEAM OUT IN Army Stan Brock - Story Rich Ellerson - Story Auburn Tommy Tuberville - Story Gene Chizik - Story Ball State Brady Hoke - Story Stan Parrish - Story Boston College Jeff Jagodzinski - Story Frank Spaziani - Story Bowling Green Gregg Bandon - Story Dave Clawson - Story Clemson Tommy Bowden - Story Dabo Swinney (interim) - Story Dabo Swinney (official head coach) - Story Eastern Michigan Jeff Genyk - Story Ron English - Story Iowa State Gene Chizik - Story Paul Rhoads - Story Kansas State Ron Prince - Story Bill Snyder - Story Miami (O.) Shane Montgomery - Story Michael Haywood - Story Mississippi State Sylvester Croom - Story Dan Mullen - Story New Mexico Rocky Long - Story Mike Locksley - Story New Mexico State Hal Mumme - Story DeWayne Walker - Story Oregon Mike Bellotti - Story Chip Kelly - Story *-Purdue Joe Tiller Danny Hope San Diego State Chuck Long - Story Brady Hoke - Story Syracuse Greg Robinson - Story Doug Marrone - Story Tennessee Phillip Fulmer - Story Lane Kiffin - Story Toledo Tom Amstutz - Story Tim Beckman - Story Utah State Brent Guy - Story Gary Andersen - Story Washington Tyrone Willingham - Story Steve Sarkisian - Story Wyoming Joe Glenn - Story Dave Christensen - Story real-life r/p ratios: updated for sacks team run att pass att total plays sacks allow rush att pass att run ratio pass ratio Air Force 777 138 915 5 772 143 84% 16% Akron 435 404 839 18 417 422 50% 50% Alabama 568 334 902 25 543 359 60% 40% Arizona 504 412 916 28 476 440 52% 48% Arizona St. 369 395 764 34 335 429 44% 56% Arkansas 378 443 821 46 332 489 40% 60% Arkansas St. 488 308 796 29 459 337 58% 42% Army 635 128 763 12 623 140 82% 18% Auburn 469 341 810 21 448 362 55% 45% Ball St. 520 405 925 14 506 419 55% 45% Baylor 481 290 771 28 453 318 59% 41% Boise St. 449 438 887 13 436 451 49% 51% Boston College 518 448 966 22 496 470 51% 49% Bowling Green 407 411 818 22 385 433 47% 53% Buffalo 486 472 958 30 456 502 48% 52% BYU 424 493 917 20 404 513 44% 56% California 435 397 832 25 410 422 49% 51% Central Mich. 484 480 964 31 453 511 47% 53% Cincinnati 455 472 927 31 424 503 46% 54% Clemson 431 400 831 33 398 433 48% 52% Colorado 439 404 843 30 409 434 49% 51% Colorado St. 456 427 883 26 430 453 49% 51% Connecticut 556 329 885 15 541 344 61% 39% Duke 419 410 829 22 397 432 48% 52% East Carolina 518 418 936 29 489 447 52% 48% Eastern Mich. 418 499 917 19 399 518 44% 56% Fla. Atlantic 416 457 873 16 400 473 46% 54% Florida 545 329 874 16 529 345 61% 39% Florida Int'l 418 353 771 28 390 381 51% 49% Florida St. 483 387 870 26 457 413 53% 47% Fresno St. 479 372 851 17 462 389 54% 46% Georgia 426 400 826 17 409 417 50% 50% Georgia Tech 640 165 805 19 621 184 77% 23% Hawaii 412 490 902 57 355 547 39% 61% Houston 406 610 1016 27 379 637 37% 63% Idaho 425 379 804 36 389 415 48% 52% Illinois 460 393 853 25 435 418 51% 49% Indiana 445 358 803 28 417 386 52% 48% Iowa 515 320 835 27 488 347 58% 42% Iowa St. 403 438 841 19 384 457 46% 54% Kansas 445 500 945 31 414 531 44% 56% Kansas St. 408 425 833 16 392 441 47% 53% Kent St. 527 300 827 21 506 321 61% 39% Kentucky 444 415 859 13 431 428 50% 50% La.-Lafayette 533 288 821 21 512 309 62% 38% La.-Monroe 424 347 771 31 393 378 51% 49% Louisiana Tech 523 343 866 25 498 368 58% 42% Louisville 454 391 845 21 433 412 51% 49% LSU 495 391 886 22 473 413 53% 47% Marshall 423 351 774 13 410 364 53% 47% Maryland 435 399 834 28 407 427 49% 51% Memphis 540 437 977 17 523 454 54% 46% Miami (Fla.) 426 411 837 27 399 438 48% 52% Miami (Ohio) 376 461 837 19 357 480 43% 57% Michigan 453 338 791 22 431 360 54% 46% Michigan St. 511 399 910 24 487 423 54% 46% Middle Tenn. St. 412 414 826 15 397 429 48% 52% Minnesota 436 415 851 30 406 445 48% 52% Mississippi 520 340 860 20 500 360 58% 42% Mississippi St. 398 384 782 37 361 421 46% 54% Missouri 417 565 982 17 400 582 41% 59% Navy 715 93 808 10 705 103 87% 13% Nebraska 486 433 919 21 465 454 51% 49% Nevada 593 418 1011 19 574 437 57% 43% New Mexico 540 289 829 18 522 307 63% 37% New Mexico St. 318 492 810 45 273 537 34% 66% North Carolina 451 320 771 28 423 348 55% 45% North Carolina St. 442 392 834 29 413 421 50% 50% North Texas 370 514 884 25 345 539 39% 61% Northern Ill. 501 312 813 16 485 328 60% 40% Northwestern 491 458 949 22 469 480 49% 51% Notre Dame 436 447 883 22 414 469 47% 53% Ohio 392 386 778 24 368 410 47% 53% Ohio St. 540 267 807 29 511 296 63% 37% Oklahoma 589 517 1106 13 576 530 52% 48% Oklahoma St. 582 326 908 16 566 342 62% 38% Oregon 585 373 958 20 565 393 59% 41% Oregon St. 487 448 935 21 466 469 50% 50% Penn St. 511 383 894 13 498 396 56% 44% Pittsburgh 492 381 873 32 460 413 53% 47% Purdue 392 502 894 24 368 526 41% 59% Rice 449 516 965 29 420 545 44% 56% Rutgers 423 415 838 19 404 434 48% 52% San Diego St. 284 489 773 21 263 510 34% 66% San Jose St. 386 383 769 31 355 414 46% 54% SMU 217 476 693 27 190 503 27% 73% South Carolina 417 452 869 39 378 491 43% 57% South Fla. 518 407 925 29 489 436 53% 47% Southern California 503 388 891 18 485 406 54% 46% Southern Miss. 531 457 988 30 501 487 51% 49% Stanford 490 287 777 21 469 308 60% 40% Syracuse 392 299 691 29 363 328 53% 47% TCU 642 371 1013 18 624 389 62% 38% Temple 413 339 752 29 384 368 51% 49% Tennessee 409 309 718 25 384 334 53% 47% Texas 508 447 955 26 482 473 50% 50% Texas A&M 365 412 777 39 326 451 42% 58% Texas Tech 317 662 979 13 304 675 31% 69% Toledo 375 381 756 16 359 397 47% 53% Troy 448 524 972 13 435 537 45% 55% Tulane 399 409 808 21 378 430 47% 53% Tulsa 674 423 1097 24 650 447 59% 41% UAB 435 353 788 23 412 376 52% 48% UCF 453 308 761 33 420 341 55% 45% UCLA 379 433 812 35 344 468 42% 58% UNLV 404 385 789 14 390 399 49% 51% Utah 499 414 913 25 474 439 52% 48% Utah St. 437 342 779 32 405 374 52% 48% UTEP 371 448 819 27 344 475 42% 58% Vanderbilt 471 319 790 27 444 346 56% 44% Virginia 339 439 778 16 323 455 42% 58% Virginia Tech 645 291 936 42 603 333 64% 36% Wake Forest 515 370 885 30 485 400 55% 45% Washington 419 366 785 31 388 397 49% 51% Washington St. 450 361 811 43 407 404 50% 50% West Virginia 517 305 822 18 499 323 61% 39% Western Ky. 428 318 746 25 403 343 54% 46% Western Mich. 358 535 893 14 344 549 39% 61% Wisconsin 567 333 900 29 538 362 60% 40% Wyoming 502 277 779 18 484 295 62% 38% what i dont have is the sliders that will make these accurate for the game, and i will be working on that over the next several weeks, using hookem's 09 as a base. please, if you would like to have these, do some tests on your own. use hookems as a base. link is above. EDIT: im an idiot, link is not above, it is here (scroll half way down page for his post) also could use some help on what ratios for new coaches/coaching changes should look like. i.e. mullen at miss st should be similar to fl, since he was ocoord at fl.

Looks good, keep us posted.

[coachchris]

I just updated the pass/run ratio table with new coach hires and offensive philosophies.

Pass/Run ratio with new coach hires

[sj7]

Do these help just for sim or do they help when actually playing the computer?

[coachchris]

Hey Harninater

I wanted to post the sliders I came up with so you can take a look.

I have updated the list below to reflect the changes for NCAA10. I used the run/pass ratio's adjusted for sacks for each teams complete season stats. I have also reflected all of the coaching changes for the upcoming season which I explained in a previous post.

From what I can tell EA did a good job making the slider directly correlate to the % of passes a team will throw during the season. So if you set the slider at 40 then the team should be expected to throw 40% passes and 60% runs. After simming multiple seasons with multiple sliders these sliders have been pretty accurate.

One thing to note is the extremes such as sliders under 30 or over 70 do not seem to be as accurate but there are not many teams with run/pass ratios that high.

Also, the lowest you can go is 15 which still didnt give me the results I was looking for option teams that run the ball 80-90% of the time (i.e. Air Force, Navy, G-Tech) With that said each of these teams are put to 15 which usually results in a 75/25 run/pass ratio which isnt bad.

NOTE: To change a rating from an off number(47, 48, 53) to an on number(45,50,55) take the slider all the way down to 15 then back up by 5's to whatever number is required. Hope that makes sense.


If you are getting different results please post.

TEAM	RUN/PASS SLIDER	OFF TYPE
Air Force	15	Option Run
Akron	50	Spread Offense
Alabama	40	Balanced
Arizona	47	Spread Offense
Arizona State	55	Spread Offense
Arkansas	60	Balanced
Arkansas State	43	Option Run
Army	15	Option Run
Auburn	40	Spread Offense
Ball State	45	Spread Offense
Baylor	42	Spread Offense
Boise State	52	West Coast
Boston College	50	West Coast
Bowling Green	55	Balanced
Buffalo	55	Balanced
BYU	55	Spread Offense
California	52	West Coast
Central Michigan	55	Spread Offense
Cincinnati	55	Spread Offense
Clemson	53	Spread Offense
Colorado	50	Balanced
Colorado State	50	Balanced
Connecticut	40	Balanced
Duke	50	Balanced
East Carolina	50	Spread Offense
Eastern Michigan	55	Balanced
Florida	40	Option Run
Florida Atlantic	52	West Coast
Florida International	50	Spread Offense
Florida State	47	Balanced
Fresno State	45	Balanced
Georgia	50	Balanced
Georgia Tech	15	Option Run
Hawai'i	65	Spread Offense
Houston	65	Spread Offense
Idaho	50	Spread Offense
Illinois	50	Spread Offense
Indiana	50	Spread Offense
Iowa	40	Balanced
Iowa State	55	Spread Offense
Kansas	57	Spread Offense
Kansas State	50	Spread Offense
Kent State	40	Spread Offense
Kentucky	52	Balanced
Louisiana Tech	43	Spread Offense
Louisiana-Lafayette	39	Option Run
Louisiana-Monroe	48	Option Run
Louisville	50	Balanced
LSU	50	Balanced
Marshall	50	Spread Offense
Maryland	52	West Coast
Memphis	46	Spread Offense
Miami (Florida)	50	Balanced
Miami (Ohio)	55	Balanced
Michigan	45	Option Run
Michigan State	47	Balanced
Middle Tennessee	50	Spread Offense
Minnesota	52	Balanced
Mississippi	42	Balanced
Mississippi State	40	Spread Offense
Missouri	60	Spread Offense
Navy	15	Option Run
Nebraska	50	West Coast
Nevada	44	Spread Offense
New Mexico	51	Spread Offense
New Mexico State	52	Spread Offense
North Carolina	45	Balanced
North Carolina State	50	West Coast
North Texas	60	Spread Offense
Northern Illinois	40	Balanced
Northwestern	50	Spread Offense
Notre Dame	55	Balanced
Ohio	55	Balanced
Ohio State	35	Balanced
Oklahoma	50	Balanced
Oklahoma State	40	Spread Offense
Oregon	40	Spread Offense
Oregon State	50	Balanced
Penn State	45	Balanced
Pittsburgh	46	West Coast
Purdue	60	Spread Offense
Rice	55	Spread Offense
Rutgers	50	Balanced
San Diego State	55	West Coast
San Jose State	54	West Coast
SMU	80	Spread Offense
South Carolina	60	Balanced
South Florida	46	Spread Offense
Southern Mississippi	50	Spread Offense
Stanford	40	West Coast
Syracuse	50	Spread Offense
TCU	40	Balanced
Temple	50	Balanced
Tennessee	50	West Coast
Texas	52	Spread Offense
Texas A&M	60	West Coast
Texas Tech	75	Spread Offense
Toledo	55	Spread Offense
Troy	55	Spread Offense
Tulane	53	West Coast
Tulsa	42	Spread Offense
UAB	51	Spread Offense
UCF	45	Balanced
UCLA	58	West Coast
UNLV	50	Spread Offense
USC	50	West Coast
Utah	50	Spread Offense
Utah State	50	Spread Offense
UTEP	57	Spread Offense
Vanderbilt	45	Spread Offense
Virginia	59	Spread Offense
Virginia Tech	35	Balanced
Wake Forest	45	Balanced
Washington	50	West Coast
Washington State	50	Spread Offense
Western Kentucky	45	Spread Offense
West Virginia	40	Option Run
Western Michigan	62	Option Run
Wisconsin	40	Balanced
Wyoming	60	Spread Offense

[angels28]

On that same page where we input run/pass ratios, it gives us the option for substitution rate. Has any one messed with it?

[ActLikeYouCrow]

i dont believe the substitution rate works from what i could tell as far as simulating.

[nuBolt]

thanks for your work guys! will definately use it in my dynasty!