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  • canes21
    Hall Of Fame
    • Sep 2008
    • 22902

    #1

    Canes21 Sliders NCAA 11

    Hello NCAA community. This is my first year making sliders for NCAA, but I feel these are very good. I was striving for a realistic challenge that was also fun and did not make the CPU cheat to win.

    I spent a lot of time in practice mode just getting a base to start off with. Then after that I took it to play now and tweaked it from there. Than when I got a better set, I started the online dynasty below. From there I have tweaked it a bit to get it to where I want it.

    With this set one of the first things I wanted to accomplish was to make a realistic passing game. As the game comes out of the box, the coverage in this game is terrible. You'll see DB's making cuts on routes before the WR does. So that was the very first thing I worked on and thats basically what made me create a slider set.

    Once I got the passing game down, I worked on the rushing game and got it to where I couldn't get 4.0 YPC every game easily. If I play a defense like UNC its going to be hard to do anything on offense. But if I play a team like Miami University, moving the ball won't be too difficult.

    I hope you at least try this set and leave feedback. Give me ideas what you think needs to be tweaked and what not. I'd also like to mention this set is being used for the OS Legend's Online Dynasty, so you know something is right about it. :wink:

    V1.2 Post Patch #2

    All American
    8 Minute Quarters
    Slow Game Speed
    25 Speed Threshold

    Penalties: Holding, Clipping, and Facemask at 55. All others at 95. (this has gotten me other penalties outside the main three>
    Hum-Cpu

    QB Accuracy............20-35
    Pass Blocking...........50-40
    WR Catching............45-50
    RB Ability.................40-85
    Run Blocking.............45-100
    Pass Coverage..........55-55
    Pass Rush................55-55
    Interceptions............20-30
    Run Defense.............10-90
    Tackling...................35-60
    FG Power.................45-45
    FG Accuracy.............15-65
    Punt Power...............45-45
    Punt Accuracy...........20-75
    Kickoff Power.............45-45

    **I did these sliders a little different than the pre-patch set. Instead of going off looks like I did in the past, I went by results. I ran the same routes against man constantly tweaking the pass coverage until I got a realistic outcome of success, then I tried the play against random defensive plays until I found a realistic outcome. So, I am going to be honest and say you might see a little DB mirroring, but you should still get realistic stats.

    I have come to the decision you can't get this game to look 100% realistic and give you realistic stats. You have to do some things that may shake your head at times, but those are rare and are faults within the core gameplay. If we had realistic coverage in the base game, these sliders would be totally different, but I have to account for what this game does wrong and I have to try and correct it the best I can.**

    Please give me feedback on what can be improved.
    Last edited by canes21; 08-26-2010, 07:39 PM.
    “No one is more hated than he who speaks the truth.”


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  • thudias
    MVP
    • Jul 2006
    • 1995

    #2
    Re: Canes21 Sliders NCAA 11

    these sliders are based on one game?
    Because I can!

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    • thudias
      MVP
      • Jul 2006
      • 1995

      #3
      Re: Canes21 Sliders NCAA 11

      Ah so your gonna tweak and update as you go. Good plan..keep us posted.
      Because I can!

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      • SilverChaosVII
        Pro
        • Jul 2007
        • 559

        #4
        Re: Canes21 Sliders NCAA 11

        I was actually very satisfied with Heisman on default settings... they are very tough but I was getting great results.

        I just want sliders where I actually lose every once in awhile.

        I'll give these a shot in a bit
        PSN: SiiLv3Rx

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        • BenGerman
          No Place Better
          • Sep 2008
          • 2752

          #5
          Re: Canes21 Sliders NCAA 11

          Originally posted by canes21
          Alright, thanks. Leave any feedback. Its not going to hurt my feelings if they aren't for you. We each have different skills and play differently, so this set isn't going to work with everybody, I'd be willing to say it probably won't even be for the majority here.
          I'm interested in these as well. I'd love to see the stats from a couple games. Although, I feel like the game plays pretty well out of the box, so we'll see how sliders effect the game. Good luck.
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          • kennethxD
            Rookie
            • Jan 2009
            • 220

            #6
            Re: Canes21 Sliders NCAA 11

            Someone post stats please.

            But in my opinion, the default sliders aren't bad.

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            • killercam
              Rookie
              • May 2010
              • 24

              #7
              Re: Canes21 Sliders NCAA 11

              Gonna do a game with these...I will let you know what I find.

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              • killercam
                Rookie
                • May 2010
                • 24

                #8
                Re: Canes21 Sliders NCAA 11

                Miami (CPU): 38
                at Florida (Me): 14

                I only did 7 minute quarters. Overall I thought the sliders played pretty good...most fun I've had during a loss in a long time. Mind you I don't have the patch yet...so idk how much that will have bearing on my results. I don't feel like I called my best game, but the reason the score looks as lopsided as it does is Jeff Demps fumbled three times on our side of the 30 and I'm still trying to get a hang of controlling guys on defense, blew right past a Miami ball carrier twice and gave them some long gains. 5 turnovers on our side really hurt us...though Miami also turned the ball over 3 times. Fumbles seem to be a bit of an issue in this game; I'm going to have to be more aware and cover up a bit more.

                For guys interested in the total plays run for a 7 minute game.

                55 total plays for Florida; 64 total plays for Miami...8 minute quarters is probably the way to go to get accurate play count.

                Individual Stats:

                UF - QB John Brantley: 21/38 55% 297 2 TD's 2 INT's
                UF - RB Jeff Demps: 7 car. 61 yds 8.7 AVG (Long of 36) 3 fumbles
                UF - RB Emmanuel Moody: 2 carries 3 yards
                UF - WR Andre Dubose: 5 rec. 145 yards TD

                Defense: 1 INT 0 sacks

                UM - QB Jacory Harris: 16/25 221 yards 3 TDs INT
                UM - RB Greg Cooper: 22 carries 64 yards TD
                UM - WR 85: 6 rec. 127 yards TD

                Defense: 2 sacks 2 INTs 4 FF

                Tweaking Suggestions:

                May want to up the HUM Pass Coverage a nudge. Can't remember if I had WR Catch at 55 or 50...3 drops for both teams which is reasonable. May need to up HUM Throw ACC...Wasn't bad for John Brantley but if you play with a lesser QB it could be pretty bad. I'll do a game with a lesser team next time and see what I get. Other than that so far I think the sliders are pretty damn good. IDK if there is a way to reduce RB's fumbling problems but I believe there were 7 fumbles in this game on both sides. Thats a little troubling in my opinion. IDK if there is anything we can do slider wise to help that.

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                • Striefer
                  Rookie
                  • May 2009
                  • 69

                  #9
                  Re: Canes21 Sliders NCAA 11

                  These are actually pretty close to the one's I am working on. I'll post mine tomorrow to compare.

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                  • killercam
                    Rookie
                    • May 2010
                    • 24

                    #10
                    Re: Canes21 Sliders NCAA 11

                    IDK if anyone is experiencing fumbling issues...I had 8 total CPU + ME in a 7 min game...Was thinking that maybe lowering CPU and HUM Tackling to 40 and RB ABILITY to 45...also upping run defense may help alleviate that problem...I think the tackle rating has something to do with the ability to force fumbles so lower tackling = lower occurance of fumbles.

                    The other issue I have found is with QB ACC....I think the CPU setting at 35 is pretty accurate...I may bump HUM ACC to 30 and up the pass defense on both sides, seems like WRs are getting open a little too easy on both ends. HUM PASS ACC at 15 is okay if your running with a team with a good QB but if you play as a mid level team they really seem to struggle throwing anything. Just a couple of suggestions.

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                    • ks99
                      Rookie
                      • Jul 2009
                      • 9

                      #11
                      Re: Canes21 Sliders NCAA 11

                      First game I played with the sliders and I thought they worked out very well.

                      Virginia - 0 (CPU) : Virginia Tech - 24 (User)

                      First Downs: 9 UVA - 17 VT
                      Total Offense: 177 UVA - 320 VT
                      Rushes-Yards-TD: 20-9-0 UVA - 50-180-2 VT
                      Comp-Att-TD: 15-29-0 UVA - 11-14-1 VT
                      Passing Yards: 168 UVA - 140 VT
                      Turnovers: 1 UVA - 1 VT
                      Total Yards: 286 UVA - 349 VT
                      Punts-Average: 6-38.0 UVA - 4-43.0 VT
                      T.O.P.: 16:05 UVA - 24:06 VT

                      The game was dominated by the defense of Virginia Tech and the stats show it. Overall not a bad showing for a very good VT team against a lesser team like Virginia
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                      My second game also played very well.

                      Colorado - 10 (CPU) : Kansas State - 13 (User)

                      First Downs: 6 CU - 12 KSU
                      Total Offense: 176 CU - 267 KSU
                      Rushes-Yards-TD: 27-115-1 CU - 40-146-1 KSU
                      Comp-Att-TD: 7-21-0 CU - 12-22-0 KSU
                      Passing Yards: 61 CU - 121 KSU
                      Turnovers: 2 CU - 3 KSU
                      Total Yards: 254 CU - 350 KSU
                      Punts-Average: 7-39.7 CU - 5-48.2 KSU
                      T.O.P.: 17:43 CU - 23:42 KSU

                      The only thing I would say is the kicking seems very difficult as my kicker missed two easy field goals inside the 40 and an extra point. Other than that the sliders seem to work very well and make an enjoyable game.
                      Last edited by ks99; 07-14-2010, 11:14 AM.

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                      • canes21
                        Hall Of Fame
                        • Sep 2008
                        • 22902

                        #12
                        Re: Canes21 Sliders NCAA 11

                        Just finished my game against Ohio State and it was a battle. I won 13-10. The Online Dynasty has the correct game stats for the teams, but when you look at individual player stats from that game it shows the stats from the FCS West game. Hopefully it will fix itself somehow or EA can get it ironed out.
                        “No one is more hated than he who speaks the truth.”


                        ― Plato

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                        • canes21
                          Hall Of Fame
                          • Sep 2008
                          • 22902

                          #13
                          Re: Canes21 Sliders NCAA 11

                          I'm getting . Anyone tried these and want to leave feedback?
                          “No one is more hated than he who speaks the truth.”


                          ― Plato

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                          • canes21
                            Hall Of Fame
                            • Sep 2008
                            • 22902

                            #14
                            Re: Canes21 Sliders NCAA 11

                            Just finished up my game against Pitt. Heard some nice commentary after the game too about my record . With the new game I saved 5 highlights that are some nice plays and show off the sliders in coverage a little bit.

                            I just checked the Game Details for the OSU game and they are up to date. But the Pitt game has the Player Stats from the FCS West game. Team stats are fin for it though.

                            EDIT: If you view the game details from the schedule, it will show the wrong player stats. But if you view the story for the game, the player stats will work when you view them from that page.
                            Last edited by canes21; 07-15-2010, 04:42 AM.
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                            ― Plato

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                            • gmac0322
                              MVP
                              • Aug 2009
                              • 1650

                              #15
                              Re: Canes21 Sliders NCAA 11

                              Originally posted by canes21
                              Just finished up my game against Pitt. Heard some nice commentary after the game too about my record . With the new game I saved 5 highlights that are some nice plays and show off the sliders in coverage a little bit.

                              I just checked the Game Details for the OSU game and they are up to date. But the Pitt game has the Player Stats from the FCS West game. Team stats are fin for it though.

                              EDIT: If you view the game details from the schedule, it will show the wrong player stats. But if you view the story for the game, the player stats will work when you view them from that page.
                              I am going to try these out tonight and i will get back with you. I had to put in qt time with the wifey so I didn't get a chance to play last night since she gave me all of tues with the game. i will back with ya

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