Matt10's Heisman sliders (zero based)

**booker21** · 07-14-2011, 02:58 PM

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Beautiful under throw!

**Fiddy** · 07-14-2011, 03:01 PM

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hmm, a different take on the kicking power etc. im gonna have to try this out. i know its always bothered me that the height on these kicks etc were always low, i dont understand how they never fixed it over the years. even in Madden they are a bit low for my liking.

**Matt10** · 07-14-2011, 04:13 PM

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Duke (CPU) @ Miami FL (User)
Final : 25-19 OT

Man - I hate myself for losing this one. Was up 17-3 until the 3rd quarter. Made some pretty bad throws - and lost momentum.

Early on Duke had the same things happen, built momentum - fantastic plays for big yardage, and then bonehead turnovers in the red zone.

Really enjoyed the feel.

Here are the stats:

Duke 25, Miami 19 (OT)

Duke Passing : Renfree, 20/41, 309 yds, TD, 2 INT (16 rush, 57 yds, TD)
Duke Rushing: Scott, 22 rush, 79 yds, TD (22 long, 6 btk)
Duke Receiving: Varner, 5 rece 87 yds, 2 drops
*the WR screen to this guy was money, I couldn't stop it.
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Miami Passing: Harris, 13/30 TD, 2 INT
Miami Rushing: Miller, 36 rush, 119 yds, TD (10 long, 3 btk)
Miami Receiving: Johnson, 5 rec, 121 yds, TD, 3 drops

**Krebstar** · 07-14-2011, 04:23 PM

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I'm going to try these out tonight and see how they go.

**Matt10** · 07-14-2011, 05:04 PM

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I'm streaming my games too. Bout to play one in a sec here.

http://www.justin.tv/matt10l

**mudtiger** · 07-14-2011, 06:03 PM

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Going straight to heisman to try these out.

**Matt10** · 07-14-2011, 06:18 PM

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Good to cya Mud!

Minnesota (user) @ Syracuse (cpu)
Final: Minnesota 21, Syracuse 40

Notes: Game played solid, I just got into a hole way too early - and proceeded to throw too many picks to be productive. Gray is a good QB, and I made him look pretty inaccurate. Some impulsive bonehead throws.

I was quite happy with the variety of play - the running game for both sides was hard earned. Pretty content with a little juke action on a punt return too.

Overall, I'm content - and look fwd to more games. I will be streaming each one, good thing about justin.tv is that all streams are archived - so if anyone wants to watch live but missed it, archive is great.

Minnesota 21, Syracuse 40

Minn Passing : Gray, 18/37, 224 yds, 3 TD, 5 INT
Minn Rushing: Bennett, 18 rush, 65 yds (9 long, 5 btk)
Minn Receiving: Keise, 6 rec, 74 yds, 2 TD, 1 drop
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Syracuse Passing: Nassib, 17/35, 341 yds, 2 TD, INT
Syracuse Rushing: Bailey, 27 rush 108 yds, TD (11 long, 4 btk)
Syracuse Receiving: Chew, 6 rec, 212 yds, TD (90 long, 1 drop)
*POG, one screen pass torched me for 80 yards and a TD

**RememberMe12** · 07-14-2011, 07:43 PM

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Im enjoying these sliders but I feel like throwing the controller through the TV with how the CPU defense plays. I did a game between two teams that are almost identical.

NC State at UNC (me)

NCS- 07 00 14 00 21
UNC- 03 03 06 03 15

UNC QB Bryn Renner- 13/40 236 yds 3 INT
NCST QB Mike Glennon- 15/27, 212 yds, TD

UNC HB Ryan Houston- 21 att, 68 yds, 3.2 avg TD
NCST HB Dean Haynes- 21 att, 80 yds, 3.8 avg

UNC WR Dwight Jones- 5 Rec, 112 yds, 22.4 avg
NCST TE George Bryan- 3 Rec, 53 yds, 17.6 avg

UNC- 4 sacks
NCST- 6 sacks

Scoring Summary
NCST TD: Greene, 20 yd pass from Glennon
UNC FG: 43 yds by Barth
UNC FG: 51 yds by Barth
NCST TD: Bishop 39 yd interception return
UNC TD: Houston 1 yard run
NCST TD: Amerson 29 yd interception return
UNC FG: 37 yds by Barth

Overall Thoughts: I used your sliders last year Matt and they were solid and these are a good starting point. My only suggestion after one game is that either the time in the pocket for the user needs to be increased or the CPU coverage toned down maybe. It seemed like the CPU defense played perfectly against the pass and I could never exploit them or if I was about to find a receiver open I would get sacked.

But like I said, its only one game and I never judge them based on one game. I am about to be UNC at NCST and I will post the results afterwards.

**Matt10** · 07-14-2011, 08:24 PM

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Originally posted by RememberMe12

Im enjoying these sliders but I feel like throwing the controller through the TV with how the CPU defense plays. I did a game between two teams that are almost identical.

NC State at UNC (me)

NCS- 07 00 14 00 21
UNC- 03 03 06 03 15

UNC QB Bryn Renner- 13/40 236 yds 3 INT
NCST QB Mike Glennon- 15/27, 212 yds, TD

UNC HB Ryan Houston- 21 att, 68 yds, 3.2 avg TD
NCST HB Dean Haynes- 21 att, 80 yds, 3.8 avg

UNC WR Dwight Jones- 5 Rec, 112 yds, 22.4 avg
NCST TE George Bryan- 3 Rec, 53 yds, 17.6 avg

UNC- 4 sacks
NCST- 6 sacks

Scoring Summary
NCST TD: Greene, 20 yd pass from Glennon
UNC FG: 43 yds by Barth
UNC FG: 51 yds by Barth
NCST TD: Bishop 39 yd interception return
UNC TD: Houston 1 yard run
NCST TD: Amerson 29 yd interception return
UNC FG: 37 yds by Barth

Overall Thoughts: I used your sliders last year Matt and they were solid and these are a good starting point. My only suggestion after one game is that either the time in the pocket for the user needs to be increased or the CPU coverage toned down maybe. It seemed like the CPU defense played perfectly against the pass and I could never exploit them or if I was about to find a receiver open I would get sacked.

But like I said, its only one game and I never judge them based on one game. I am about to be UNC at NCST and I will post the results afterwards.

Definitely agree with ya man - especially on playactions. No way are these final, but I give it about 5 games to test before making a change. The variety is working though, last game (undocumented) upset Stanford using Utah 20-7. Luck was pressured like crazy and Taylor couldn't get past my line.

Punt return for a touchdown too - my first.

Definitely still some tinkering needed. Up for review is User pass block since CPU pass rush is at zero. Going to also give CPU WR catch a little love - not much though as the drop numbers look good so far on paper.

**mudtiger** · 07-14-2011, 08:24 PM

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Air Force at Army(me)

Expecting AF to win here.

AF 21 - ARMY 7

AF
off 207
rsh 24-96
pas 4-12-109
3rd 36%
pen 1-10

Army
off 289
rsh 49-188
pas 7-16-101, 2 int
3rd 21%
pen 7-55

I got robbed

Seriously I thought the refs were out to get me. 5 of the penalties negated 3rd down conversions. Air force did outplay me, but overall offense felt a bit lackluster. Only one game, but it didn't feel like defense dominated, rather that offense couldn't move the ball enough.

The 2 picks I threw were my fault, no complaints there. Could just be my reflexes, but I felt like I needed another split second in the pocket to look down field. Had some wide open guys that I overthrew too so QBA was good I think. Drops were fine.

I liked the number of missed tackles, maybe felt like the D closed down a few too many running plays too quickly. Maybe the speed threshold slider has something to do with this? I never remember if you lower to have everyone closer in speed or raise it.

Not sure what to think about the number of plays, a pathetic 36 for AF and somewhat low 55 for me. Does the slow setting effect this? Felt like when I played on normal speed I was on my way to around 110 total plays after 3 qtrs. So that's not really related to anything you're doing in sliders though.

So good game, just felt like the offense on both sides needed a bit more juice in my opinion. Only 1 game though, could have an offensive explosion next game.

**RememberMe12** · 07-14-2011, 08:29 PM

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Originally posted by Matt10

Definitely agree with ya man - especially on playactions. No way are these final, but I give it about 5 games to test before making a change. The variety is working though, last game (undocumented) upset Stanford using Utah 20-7. Luck was pressured like crazy and Taylor couldn't get past my line.

Punt return for a touchdown too - my first.

Definitely still some tinkering needed. Up for review is User pass block since CPU pass rush is at zero. Going to also give CPU WR catch a little love - not much though as the drop numbers look good so far on paper.

I agree. Any auto sub package that you are using or are you going with default?

**RememberMe12** · 07-14-2011, 08:32 PM

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Originally posted by mudtiger

Air Force at Army(me)

Expecting AF to win here.

AF 21 - ARMY 7

AF
off 207
rsh 24-96
pas 4-12-109
3rd 36%
pen 1-10

Army
off 289
rsh 49-188
pas 7-16-101, 2 int
3rd 21%
pen 7-55

I got robbed

Seriously I thought the refs were out to get me. 5 of the penalties negated 3rd down conversions. Air force did outplay me, but overall offense felt a bit lackluster. Only one game, but it didn't feel like defense dominated, rather that offense couldn't move the ball enough.

The 2 picks I threw were my fault, no complaints there. Could just be my reflexes, but I felt like I needed another split second in the pocket to look down field. Had some wide open guys that I overthrew too so QBA was good I think. Drops were fine.

I liked the number of missed tackles, maybe felt like the D closed down a few too many running plays too quickly. Maybe the speed threshold slider has something to do with this? I never remember if you lower to have everyone closer in speed or raise it.

Not sure what to think about the number of plays, a pathetic 36 for AF and somewhat low 55 for me. Does the slow setting effect this? Felt like when I played on normal speed I was on my way to around 110 total plays after 3 qtrs. So that's not really related to anything you're doing in sliders though.

So good game, just felt like the offense on both sides needed a bit more juice in my opinion. Only 1 game though, could have an offensive explosion next game.

Thanks for reminding me of that. Happened to me too. It seemed like everytime I got something on 3rd down a holding call happened.

**rboocahrd** · 07-14-2011, 08:46 PM

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I just played my first game with these and I really liked how open the field could feel. I used Michigan for both sides just to be even. I like how you have to have a good angle to make a tackle but the CPU doesn't seem to understand that. I started off hot with Robinson and I was starting to wonder why I was so accurate but in the second half I had a lot of under/over throws which was great to see. I don't know if homefield played an advantage but I won big in this game. I had one return where I broke a tackle, spun out of another, and then was pushed out of bounds except I didn't go out and it resulted in a TD. I'll have to link it when I'm back on my comp because it looked awesome. Here are some stats

Hum Robinson 21/38 366 yards 2 TD 1 INT
CPU Robinson 9/18 190 yards 1 TD 0 INT

HUM Smith 24 att 82 yards 3 TD 14 long 3 BTK
CPU Smith 23 att 63 yards 0 TD 13 long 3 BTK

HUM 3 drops 2 pancakes 4 deflections 5 penalties for 55 yards
CPU 2 drops 0 pancakes 6 deflections 11 penalties for 105 yards

The feel of the game was great but their offense wasn't going well. I think I'll run it again and be the away team this time

**bigbob** · 07-14-2011, 09:41 PM

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Oregon Ducks (CPU) at Ohio State Buckeyes

Passing:
Miller: 19 of 30, 238 yards, 2 TDs/2 INT
Thomas: 7 of 14, 93 yards, 2 TD
Bennett: 5 of 9, 94 yards

Rushing:
Herron: 12 carries, 132 yards, 2 TD (Long of 57*TD*, also TD for 35 yards)
Miller: 8 carries, 25 yards, TD (long of 27)
Boren: 2 carries, 11 yards (long of 6)

James: 11 carries, 20 yards (long of 15)
Thomas: 7 carries, 16 yards (long of 13)
Lowe: 1 carry, 12 yards
Teague: 2 carries, 5 yards (long of 6)
Bennett: 9 carries, -10 yards (long of 14

Box Score:
ORG: 14-0-0-0
OSU: 0-24-0-17

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