100 Speed Threshold Really Improves Blocking

[jahswill]

I know that most people here are really opposed to high speed thresholds. I've done a lot of research and the Oline undoubtedly blocks better with 100 threshold. If there is anyone here who really likes to run the ball while patiently following their blocks. You will see a dramatic difference, especially with pulling linemen and second level blocks. I know it's almost time for 14, but I'm hoping to milk the last bit of fun from 13. Give it a try and let me know what you see.

[billysims]

Re: 100 Speed Threshold Really Improves Blocking

I know that most people here are really opposed to high speed thresholds. I've done a lot of research and the Oline undoubtedly blocks better with 100 threshold. If there is anyone here who really likes to run the ball while patiently following their blocks. You will see a dramatic difference, especially with pulling linemen and second level blocks. I know it's almost time for 14, but I'm hoping to milk the last bit of fun from 13. Give it a try and let me know what you see.

Never tried that.

Same results for CPU also?

What difficulty level are you on! I play varsity or AA.

[jahswill]

Re: 100 Speed Threshold Really Improves Blocking

Never tried that.

Same results for CPU also?

What difficulty level are you on! I play varsity or AA.

I play on Heisman with Jarrod's sliders. The high threshold really gives a more organic feel to the game! Yes it also effects the CPU. I've been playing this game since release and I've dabbled with a high threshold here and there. But the last month I went back to it and it really makes a difference. People shy away from high threshold because they think their speedsters will be caught from behind by slower players. You don't have o worry about that because your linemen will spring you for big runs, just the way most big runs are made possible in real football.

[Bama man 42]

Re: 100 Speed Threshold Really Improves Blocking

I play on Heisman with Jarrod's sliders. The high threshold really gives a more organic feel to the game! Yes it also effects the CPU. I've been playing this game since release and I've dabbled with a high threshold here and there. But the last month I went back to it and it really makes a difference. People shy away from high threshold because they think their speedsters will be caught from behind by slower players. You don't have o worry about that because your linemen will spring you for big runs, just the way most big runs are made possible in real football.

Which set of Jarrods sliders are you using ? Does the higher threshold improve pass blocking as well ?

[jahswill]

Re: 100 Speed Threshold Really Improves Blocking

Which set of Jarrods sliders are you using ? Does the higher threshold improve pass blocking as well ?

I'm using the black version, yes the pass blocking is also effected in a positive way by the high threshold.

[jahswill]

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I actually have user run blocking at 50 and running back ability at 40 with the rest Jarrod's black sliders. I may go down to 35 RBA.

[The JareBear]

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I actually have user run blocking at 50 and running back ability at 40 with the rest Jarrod's black sliders. I may go down to 35 RBA.

I commend you for posting your findings. I've never fully understand the absolute insistence that threshold be at zero. Speed is not the only thing that matters. If real life football resembled what the game looks like on zero threshold then Devin Hester would be a 3,000 yard a year receiver and Darren Sproles would be a hall of famer.

People always complain that theirs fast players get caught be d-linemen. Have you ever seen Clowney play? Have you watched Julius Peppers overs the years? I even see defensive tackles catching up to the pile downfield all the time. It's called pursuit angles. I think the zero threhold thing is people not letting go of how th game worked in the old days on the ps2.

I'll try this out when 14 comes out,. I'll play three games at 100, three at 50, and three at 0 and see what I find

Ratings should matter, not just one rating

[jahswill]

Re: 100 Speed Threshold Really Improves Blocking

I commend you for posting your findings. I've never fully understand the absolute insistence that threshold be at zero. Speed is not the only thing that matters. If real life football resembled what the game looks like on zero threshold then Devin Hester would be a 3,000 yard a year receiver and Darren Sproles would be a hall of famer.

People always complain that theirs fast players get caught be d-linemen. Have you ever seen Clowney play? Have you watched Julius Peppers overs the years? I even see defensive tackles catching up to the pile downfield all the time. It's called pursuit angles. I think the zero threhold thing is people not letting go of how th game worked in the old days on the ps2.

I'll try this out when 14 comes out,. I'll play three games at 100, three at 50, and three at 0 and see what I find

Ratings should matter, just one rating

I couldn't agree more! If the way the current threshold is implemented the same way in 14, I'm sure it will have a positive effect. If you happen to get the itch before 14 drops, give it a try. The players also seem to have more weight to them. I had my power back drag a guy about 3 yards and break the tackle to have someone clean him up as he broke free. I haven't seen that animation before.

[Matt10]

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I wonder if it'd fix the DB glitch? LOL.

[jahswill]

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I wonder if it'd fix the DB glitch? LOL.

I won't say it fixes the db gitch, but it does minimize it. I play with Jarrods Black sliders with user Rblk 50, RBA 35 and CPU Tkl at 55. It's tough to go deep to often because you need great pass protection for one. Secondly, when I have beat the CPU deep, the coverage was still pretty close.

[mkharsh33]

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could you post your EXACT set here, including your penalty settings. Will admit that Jarrod's format is tough to decipher because of all the options he posts. Would be nice if you'd share them here. thanks!

[jahswill]

Re: 100 Speed Threshold Really Improves Blocking

could you post your EXACT set here, including your penalty settings. Will admit that Jarrod's format is tough to decipher because of all the options he posts. Would be nice if you'd share them here. thanks!

Heisman 9 min. /100 speed threshold/game speed normal

Offsides 100
False Start 50
Holding 54
FM 55
OPI 100
DPI 100
KRI 100
Clip 55
IG 100
RP 54
RP 50
User/CPU
QBA 0/100
Pblk 0/75
WRC 40/100
RBA 35/100
Rblk 50/75
PC 25/100
PRsh 0/20
Int 25/90
RD 25/100
Tkl 50/55
FGP 40/60
FGA 35/35
PP 50/50
PA 50/100
KP 45/50

I'm playing in the year 2019, with my stacked FSU squad. I would start off with User RBA at 50 and bring CPU Tkl to 50. If the CPU pass rush is to overpowered I would bring User Pblk to 20 to match CPU Prush. These sliders were based on Jarrods Black set. They give a very stiff challenge. Football is won in the trenches. If the CPU is pancaking your Oline and Dline at the snap of the ball, almost every snap. That is not sim. But to try and make the game challenging, this is what happens sometimes. I've tried to eliminate that component from the CPU and still keep the game challenging by decreasing the speed gap, and not giving the CPU a unrealistic advantage in the trenches. Route running and acceleration are really accentuated in the passing game. It seems to me that a higher threshold gives your Oline time to get to their blocks more often than 0 or the 50 default. Let me know how it works out. MK, you're a vet here ,so if you see something that could be tweaked. Hit me up.

[jahswill]

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I suggest using the sliders that you already have with the 100 threshold. Unless you have a really stacked team and need a good challenge. These can be unforgiving otherwise.

[JoshC1977]

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I tried this setting using Thumstyx' sliders and it is interesting. I don't think that blocking is so much improved as much as it is that the reduction in speed/acceleration difference puts blockers in a better position to make blocks. It is like the blockers are more 'in sync' with the skill position players. I like the feel....

I've got the itch to play some NCAA this weekend, so I am going to keep playing games with this setting and see how it goes.

[jahswill]

Re: 100 Speed Threshold Really Improves Blocking

I tried this setting using Thumstyx' sliders and it is interesting. I don't think that blocking is so much improved as much as it is that the reduction in speed/acceleration difference puts blockers in a better position to make blocks. It is like the blockers are more 'in sync' with the skill position players. I like the feel....

I've got the itch to play some NCAA this weekend, so I am going to keep playing games with this setting and see how it goes.

That's a great way to describe it. With the higher threshold, they seem to have enough time to get to there blocks. As opposed to being almost in position and at the last second bailing to take a defender that's not an immediate threat!