A methodical approach to understanding sliders. Tests & Resuls

[The_Gaming_Disciple]

Cincinnati Bearcats at UCF Knights
Jan 1,	1ST	2ND	3RD	4TH	SCORE
Cincinnati Bearcats (6-3 (5-1))	14	7	14	6	41
UCF Knights (4-5 (2-4))	0	17	7	7	31

Team Stats Comparison
	CIN	UCF
Total Offense	501	421
Rushing Yards	235	104
Passing Yards	266	317
First Downs	21	23
Punt Return Yards	24	6
Kick Return Yards	1	164
Total Yards	526	591
Turnovers	1	3
3rd Down Converstion	8-12 (66%)	7-11 (63%)
4th Down Conversion	0-0 (0%)	1-1 (100%)
2-Point Conversion	0-0 (0%)	0-0 (0%)
Red Zone Touchdowns/Field Goals	6-4-1 (83%)	3-2-1 (100%)
Penalties	8-70	3-37
Posession Time	14:17	21:43

Cincinnati Bearcats

UCF Knights

Not sure if this is a result of heisman difficulty, at times however, my defensive backs appear lethargic and allow big plays downfield on man coverage and zone.

I also noticed with this slider set that the cpu makes you pay for turnovers. Not a problem though, in real life turnovers often dictate the flow and outcome of the game.

Also, I will tune down the roughing the passer penalty, there were at least 6-7 calls in the game. Many of them came against me at crucial points of the game.

Blake Bortles of UCF was 19/29, 317 YDS, 1 TD, 3 INT and had a 65% completion rate.

Gunner Kiel of Cincinnati was 16/25, 266 YDS, 3 TD, 1 INT and had a 64% completion rate.

[ZaPPPa]

San Jose State Spartans at Minnesota Golden Gophers
Jan 1,	1ST	2ND	3RD	4TH	SCORE
San Jose State Spartans (1-1)	7	9	15	7	38
Minnesota Golden Gophers (1-2)	7	7	0	7	21

Team Stats Comparison
	SJSU	MINN
Total Offense	431	320
Rushing Yards	33-184-2	26-78-2
Passing Yards	19-21-3 for 247	18-27-1 for 242
First Downs	22	13
Punt Return Yards	22	0
Kick Return Yards	82	88
Total Yards	535	408
Turnovers	1	1
3rd Down Converstion	8-12	4-10
4th Down Conversion	0-0	0-0
2-Point Conversion	1-1	0-0
Red Zone Touchdowns/Field Goals	5-4-1	2-2-0
Penalties	2-10	2-10
Posession Time	20:50	15:10

San Jose State Spartans

Minnesota Golden Gophers

Strong offensive showing with a little bit of everything. Both turnovers due to interceptions, mine was on a 50+y pass that got intercepted at the goal line. Finally some solid rushing from my team.

I am updating the slider set in the first post to represent the exact sliders I played this game with.

[The_Gaming_Disciple]

UCF Knights at South Florida Bulls
Jan 1,	1ST	2ND	3RD	4TH	SCORE
UCF Knights (4-6 (2-5))	0	14	7	3	24
South Florida Bulls (4-6 (3-4))	10	3	0	8	21

Team Stats Comparison
	UCF	USF
Total Offense	293	337
Rushing Yards	84	193
Passing Yards	209	144
First Downs	18	15
Punt Return Yards	11	18
Kick Return Yards	103	25
Total Yards	407	380
Turnovers	1	0
3rd Down Converstion	5-9 (55%)	1-6 (16%)
4th Down Conversion	1-1 (100%)	1-2 (50%)
2-Point Conversion	0-0 (0%)	1-1 (100%)
Red Zone Touchdowns/Field Goals	4-3-1 (100%)	3-0-2 (66%)
Penalties	2-30	2-22
Posession Time	21:09	14:51

UCF Knights PASSING C/A YDS TD INT Blake Bortles 22/25 209 2 0 RUSHING ATT YDS AVG TD Storm Johnson 22 96 4.3 1 RECEIVING REC YDS AVG TD Justin Tukes 10 61 6.1 1 Kevin Miller 3 39 13.0 1 DEFENSE TACK SACK INT TD Deion Green 3 1 0 0 Justin Callahan 2 2 0 0 Demetrius Anderson 1 1 0 0 KICKING FG XP PTS LONG Shawn Moffitt 1/1 3/3 6 18

South Florida Bulls PASSING C/A YDS TD INT Steven Bench 8/10 144 1 0 RUSHING ATT YDS AVG TD Michael Pierre 24 177 7.3 1 RECEIVING REC YDS AVG TD Chris Dunkley 2 72 36.0 1 DEFENSE TACK SACK INT TD Rahmon Swain 7 1 0 0 Eric Lee 5 1 0 0 Jalen Spencer 5 1 0 0 Aaron Lynch 4 1 0 0

This game came down to the last second, literally. Shawn Moffitt made a field goal with 0:02 left on the clock at the USF 1 yard line.

For the past two games the cpu run game has been overly effective. I literally have to stack the box in a 4-3 defense.

Both quarterbacks completed about 80% of their passes as opposed to my previous game where both qb's threw around a high 60% completion rate.

Let me know what your thoughts are concerning the stats for this game.

[ZaPPPa]

In my games the CPU running game has been highly ineffective, but I defend the middle quite aggressively and use QB spy fairly often. Overall the stats look pretty decent. How's your sacks per game?

My last game:

Utah State Aggies at San Jose State Spartans
Jan 1,	1ST	2ND	3RD	4TH	SCORE
Utah State Aggies (1-3)	0	3	0	7	10
San Jose State Spartans (2-1)	14	21	14	7	56

Team Stats Comparison
	USU	SJSU
Total Offense	311	440
Rushing Yards	25-19-0	23-120-1
Passing Yards	23-34-1-292	24-31-7-320
First Downs	17	16
Punt Return Yards	9	22
Kick Return Yards	91	86
Total Yards	411	548
Turnovers	4	0
3rd Down Converstion	6-13	4-9
4th Down Conversion	0-0	1-1
2-Point Conversion	0-0	0-0
Red Zone Touchdowns/Field Goals	4-0-0	7-6-0
Penalties	1-15	5-55
Posession Time	16:30	19:30

Utah State Aggies

San Jose State Spartans

This game turned into an embarrassing slaughter of Utah State. My offense was not even that effective, but their offense was horrendous. 11 sacks, 1 INT, 1 fumble and 2 muffed punts. I wouldn't be surprised if the Utah State injury report reads: Chuckie Keeton - deceased. Yikes

[The_Gaming_Disciple]

Quote: Originally Posted by ZaPPPa

In my games the CPU running game has been highly ineffective, but I defend the middle quite aggressively and use QB spy fairly often. Overall the stats look pretty decent. How's your sacks per game? My last game: Utah State Aggies at San Jose State Spartans Jan 1, 1ST 2ND 3RD 4TH SCORE Utah State Aggies (1-3) 0 3 0 7 10 San Jose State Spartans (2-1) 14 21 14 7 56 Team Stats Comparison USU SJSU Total Offense 311 440 Rushing Yards 25-19-0 23-120-1 Passing Yards 23-34-1-292 24-31-7-320 First Downs 17 16 Punt Return Yards 9 22 Kick Return Yards 91 86 Total Yards 411 548 Turnovers 4 0 3rd Down Converstion 6-13 4-9 4th Down Conversion 0-0 1-1 2-Point Conversion 0-0 0-0 Red Zone Touchdowns/Field Goals 4-0-0 7-6-0 Penalties 1-15 5-55 Posession Time 16:30 19:30 Utah State Aggies San Jose State Spartans This game turned into an embarrassing slaughter of Utah State. My offense was not even that effective, but their offense was horrendous. 11 sacks, 1 INT, 1 fumble and 2 muffed punts. I wouldn't be surprised if the Utah State injury report reads: Chuckie Keeton - deceased. Yikes

Lol concerning Chuckie Keeton. I am averaging about 4-7 sacks a game.

[Oraeon1224]

1. I tried the testing of pass coverage as you suggested. I couldn't tell any difference betwenn 0 and 100 in man coverage looking back. For awhile I thought they were but when I stuck with it and completed 20 plays with each rating 0, 50, 100 it turned out to be 5-6 plays of good coverage that occured at 0 or 100. Maybe I am testing incorrectly but I just can't see what this slider does.

2. I think you are going to run into the same problem I have. Lower pass block + QBA adjustments result in realistic completion percentages but ludicrous sacks. I haven't figured out anyway to fix this other than having a realistic number of dropped passes. I'll be interested to see if you find a work around.

[skundy]

If QBA/Pass blck settings are yielding too many sacks try bumping Roughing the Passer up to 54, anything over and RTP will take over the penalties.

[ZaPPPa]

I will take another look at Pass Coverage. I saw nearly every pass being swatted or intercepted on 100 in the situation I tested. I'll try and see if I can find another scenario like that. I do know that I have seen some great swats in my dynasty games with a safety flying by the WR swatting the ball away at full speed. Also, tossing up the long ball into double coverage is asking for interceptions at PC 75.

You may be able to stifle sacks with the intentional grounding penalty slider. i noticed that sacks are heavy at 100, but less at 75. In my last game (shown below) I recorded zero sacks for both teams in a very pass-heavy game.

SJSU vs Hawaii

San Jose State Spartans at Hawaii Warriors
Jan 1,	1ST	2ND	3RD	4TH	SCORE
San Jose State Spartans (3-1)	7	7	14	14	42
Hawaii Warriors (1-3)	7	21	0	17	45

Team Stats Comparison
	SJSU	HAW
Total Offense	459	505
Rushing Yards	18-35-0	31-159-3
Passing Yards	28-37-6-424	25-34-3-346
First Downs	18	26
Punt Return Yards	0	13
Kick Return Yards	189	66
Total Yards	648	584
Turnovers	0	0
3rd Down Converstion	2-8	6-9
4th Down Conversion	2-3	0-0
2-Point Conversion	0-0	0-0
Red Zone Touchdowns/Field Goals	4-4-0	8-6-1
Penalties	6-51	4-36
Posession Time	18:03	17:56

San Jose State Spartans

Hawaii Warriors

Hawaii is always a very high scoring game, but this was an offensive slugfest. I was down 7-28, worked my way back to 28-28, but ended up losing 42-45. CPU running game was decent, mine was terrible. I really like the fact that these sliders can generate completely different games.