I Will Say It First: This Game is PROGRAMMED to be Played on Default...

[BadAssHskr]

I appreciate your thread man, now that youve been honest with youself and stuck to it, you should fire up Fiddys sliders and do the whole thing over just for compare and contrast sake.

Just only to see what the actual difference is, good or bad.

Im only curious how the 2 would compare.

[windycityape]

What exactly is threshold used for?


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[The_Gaming_Disciple]

Quote: Originally Posted by windycityape

What exactly is threshold used for? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk - now Free

Basically, from my knowledge, it dictates the speed differentiation between players in order to emulate true speed on the field.

The higher the threshold, the closer the players will remain to one another despite their speed, agility, and acceleration attributes.

The lower the threshold, you will begin to see legitimate separation between players on the field and they tend to play toward their true player attributes.

In other words, a running back with 96 speed, 95 acceleration, and 93 agility should never be "hawked" down by a 300 lbs D-Lineman who has 85 speed, with 80 acceleration, and 70 agility.

The sweet spot with player threshold this year in my opinion is between 0-25. I use 0, in that, I believe it helps with regards to the cpu throwing over and under his receiver, especially on slant routes.

Oraeon1224 has written down his results and opinions with regards to tested player threshold in his slider thread.

[The_Gaming_Disciple]

Boston College Eagles at Minnesota Golden Gophers
Sep 6, 2014	1ST	2ND	3RD	4TH	SCORE
Boston College Eagles (2-0 (0-0))	7	0	10	7	24
Minnesota Golden Gophers (0-1 (0-0))	7	0	0	14	21

Team Stats Comparison
	BC	MINN
Total Offense	277	315
Rushing Yards	24	58
Passing Yards	253	257
First Downs	12	14
Punt Return Yards	18	47
Kick Return Yards	0	33
Total Yards	295	395
Turnovers	3	5
3rd Down Converstion	8-15 (53%)	6-10 (60%)
4th Down Conversion	0-2 (0%)	0-1 (0%)
2-Point Conversion	0-0 (0%)	0-0 (0%)
Red Zone Touchdowns/Field Goals	4-2-1 (75%)	2-2-0 (100%)
Penalties	0-0	0-0
Posession Time	15:51	16:09

Boston College Eagles PASSING C/A YDS TD INT J. Bordner 29/41 253 2 3 A. Howell 0/1 0 0 0 RUSHING ATT YDS AVG TD J. Bordner 11 8 0.7 0 T. Kimble 8 16 2.0 0 RECEIVING REC YDS AVG TD T. Kimble 11 116 10.5 1 D. Barksdale 1 3 3.0 1 BLOCKING PANCAKE SACK C. Parsons 0 1 A. Kramer 0 1 DEFENSE TACK SACK INT TD S. Rositano 6 0 1 0 S. Duggan 4 1 0 0 M. Asprilla 4 0 2 0 C. Wujciak 4 2 0 0 S. Daniels 3 0 1 0 B. Mihalik 2 1 0 0 A. Louis Jean 1 0 1 0

Minnesota Golden Gophers PASSING C/A YDS TD INT P. Nelson 19/32 257 1 5 RUSHING ATT YDS AVG TD D. Kirkwood Jr. 16 76 4.7 1 P. Nelson 5 -18 -3.6 1 RECEIVING REC YDS AVG TD L. Plsek 6 71 11.8 0 D. Kirkwood Jr. 4 78 19.5 1 I. Fruechte 4 84 21.0 0 BLOCKING PANCAKE SACK Z. Epping 1 0 C. Bak 0 2 J. Campion 0 1 DEFENSE TACK SACK INT TD D. Campbell 7 0 0 0 D. Wilson 6 1 0 0 B. Boddy 5 0 1 0 T. Cockran 4 1 0 0 N. Rallis 3 1 0 0 D. Wells 3 0 1 0 E. Murray 3 0 1 0

Boston College QB had a 70% completion rating.
Boston College still did not utilize their running game as much as I would have like to have seen.
Sack totals for both schools was pretty good.
This game I forced a lot of passes and the defense capitalized on it.
Possession time for both schools was about even, this was good to see.

Here is a link to the box score of Minnesota's most recent game this past week against UNLV. I will throughout the season test to see if I can generate some of the box scores that are dictated in real life.
http://espn.go.com/ncf/boxscore?id=332410135

[The_Gaming_Disciple]

Minnesota Golden Gophers at Air Force Falcons
Sep 13, 2014	1ST	2ND	3RD	4TH	SCORE
Minnesota Golden Gophers (1-1 (0-0))	7	7	0	3	17
Air Force Falcons (1-1 (0-0))	0	0	0	0	0

Team Stats Comparison
	MINN	AFA
Total Offense	306	70
Rushing Yards	89	36
Passing Yards	217	34
First Downs	16	6
Punt Return Yards	57	0
Kick Return Yards	21	0
Total Yards	384	70
Turnovers	3	0
3rd Down Converstion	5-11 (45%)	4-12 (33%)
4th Down Conversion	1-2 (50%)	0-2 (0%)
2-Point Conversion	0-0 (0%)	0-0 (0%)
Red Zone Touchdowns/Field Goals	5-2-0 (40%)	0-0-0 (0%)
Penalties	1-15	0-0
Posession Time	19:13	12:47

Minnesota Golden Gophers PASSING C/A YDS TD INT P. Nelson 26/31 217 1 2 RUSHING ATT YDS AVG TD D. Kirkwood Jr. 14 100 7.1 0 R. Williams 6 17 2.8 1 RECEIVING REC YDS AVG TD D. Kirkwood Jr. 7 6 0.8 0 I. Fruechte 7 80 11.4 1 BLOCKING PANCAKE SACK M. Lenkiewicz 1 2 Z. Epping 1 0 T. Olson 0 1 DEFENSE TACK SACK INT TD M. Amaefula 4 1 0 0 C. Botticelli 3 3 0 0 S. Ekpe 2 1 0 0

Air Force Falcons PASSING C/A YDS TD INT K. Pearson 5/10 30 0 0 J. Awini 1/2 4 0 0 RUSHING ATT YDS AVG TD J. Lee 15 32 2.1 0 RECEIVING REC YDS AVG TD J. Lee 2 5 2.5 0 BLOCKING PANCAKE SACK D. Echeveria 0 3 T. Hall 0 1 M. Jackson 0 1 DEFENSE TACK SACK INT TD C. Healy 8 1 0 0 I. Imamura 5 0 1 0 J. Jones 3 2 0 0 G. McHenry 2 0 1 0 A. Hansen 2 1 0 0

I would like to have seen the AFA running game more potent, but it did not happen. AFA had 30 rushing attempts but did not generate much yardage.

Against Colgate last night AFA had 64 rushing attempts. Link to the bottom of the screen for the game against Colgate.

K. Pearson went 5/10 and had a 50% completion rating for the game.

Last night K. Pearson went 5/8 with a 62% completion rating against Colgate. Very interesting to see the stats match up pretty closely to a real game.

http://espn.go.com/ncf/boxscore?id=332432005

[The_Gaming_Disciple]

Eastern Michigan Eagles at Minnesota Golden Gophers
Sep 20, 2014	1ST	2ND	3RD	4TH	SCORE
Eastern Michigan Eagles (1-1 (0-0))	7	7	0	0	14
Minnesota Golden Gophers (1-1 (0-0))	3	21	0	21	45

Team Stats Comparison
	EMU	MINN
Total Offense	182	371
Rushing Yards	81	159
Passing Yards	101	212
First Downs	10	18
Punt Return Yards	0	77
Kick Return Yards	0	102
Total Yards	182	550
Turnovers	3	1
3rd Down Converstion	5-11 (45%)	5-10 (50%)
4th Down Conversion	0-1 (0%)	1-2 (50%)
2-Point Conversion	0-0 (0%)	0-0 (0%)
Red Zone Touchdowns/Field Goals	1-1-0 (100%)	6-5-1 (100%)
Penalties	1-15	0-0
Posession Time	10:31	21:29

Eastern Michigan Eagles PASSING C/A YDS TD INT T. Benz 14/29 101 2 2 RUSHING ATT YDS AVG TD T. Benz 10 40 4.0 0 B. Hill 8 41 5.1 0 RECEIVING REC YDS AVG TD T. Russel 6 44 7.3 1 Q. Jones 2 15 7.6 1 DEFENSE TACK SACK INT TD L. Robinson 8 0 0 0 D. Elliott 7 0 1 0 J. Canty 5 1 0 0 P. O'Connor 3 1 0 0

Minnesota Golden Gophers PASSING C/A YDS TD INT P. Nelson 26/33 212 2 1 RUSHING ATT YDS AVG TD D. Kirkwood Jr. 24 138 5.7 3 RECEIVING REC YDS AVG TD L. Plsek 6 65 10.8 1 K. Maye 5 38 7.6 1 BLOCKING PANCAKE SACK D. Goodger 1 0 M. Lenkiewicz 0 1 DEFENSE TACK SACK INT TD D. Campbell 6 1 0 0 D. Wells 2 0 1 0 B. Boddy 2 0 1 M Amaefula 0 0 0 1

Unfortunately all stats are not being reported.

Assisted tackles are not being recorded.

Minnesota had 3 turnovers, but only one was recorded; two interceptions and one forced fumble that resulted in a TD.

EMU's QB was held to a 48% completion rating this game.

On slow speed there are instances where players appear to be stuck in the mud after handoffs and receptions.

[The_Gaming_Disciple]

Florida State Seminoles at Pittsburgh Panthers
Sep 2, 2013	1ST	2ND	3RD	4TH	SCORE
#14 Florida State Seminoles (0-0 (0-0))	0	10	7	7	24
Pittsburgh Panthers (0-0 (0-0))	0	7	7	7	21

Team Stats Comparison
	FSU	PITT
Total Offense	332	287
Rushing Yards	123	52
Passing Yards	209	235
First Downs	16	10
Punt Return Yards	40	9
Kick Return Yards	104	0
Total Yards	476	296
Turnovers	1	1
3rd Down Converstion	2-10 (20%)	5-10 (50%)
4th Down Conversion	4-5 (80%)	1-2 (50%)
2-Point Conversion	0-0 (0%)	0-0 (0%)
Red Zone Touchdowns/Field Goals	4-3-1 (100%)	1-1-0 (100%)
Penalties	2-10	0-0
Posession Time	18:55	13:05

Scoring Summary
SECOND QUARTER SCORING		FSU	PITT
7:56	(FSU) FG FSU: R. Aguayo, 33 Yd FG	3	0
3:29	(FSU) TD FSU: J. Wilder, 1 Yd run (R. Aguayo kick)	10	0
1:09	(PITT) TD Pitt: M. Crockett, 22 Yd pass from T. Savage (C. Blewitt kick)	10	7
THIRD QUARTER SCORING		FSU	PITT
4:34	(PITT) TD Pitt: I. Bennett, 5 Yd run (C. Blewitt kick)	10	14
0:19	(FSU) TD FSU: J. Wilder, 1 Yd run (R. Aguayo kick)	17	14
FOURTH QUARTER SCORING		FSU	PITT
6:21	(PITT) TD Pitt: T. Boyd, 38 Yd pass from T. Savage (C. Blewitt kick)	17	21
3:03	(FSU) TD FSU: J. Wilder, 7 Yd run (R. Aguayo kick)	24	21

Florida State Seminoles PASSING C/A YDS TD INT J. Winston 22/26 84% 209 0 1 RUSHING ATT YDS AVG TD J.Wilder Jr. 21 94 4.4 3 RECEIVING REC YDS AVG TD Isaiah Jones 4 49 12.2 0 BLOCKING PANCAKE SACK T. Jackson 2 0 J. Matias 1 0 DEFENSE TACK SACK INT TD T. Brooks 8 0 1 0

Pittsburgh Panthers PASSING C/A YDS TD INT T. Savage 17/26 65% 235 2 1 RUSHING ATT YDS AVG TD I. Bennett 17 49 2.8 1 RECEIVING REC YDS AVG TD I. Bennett 5 37 7.4 0 T. Boyd 4 68 17.0 1 M. Crockett 1 22 22.0 1 DEFENSE TACK SACK INT TD J. Hendricks 8 0 0 0 K. Williams 4 0 1 0

FSU (me)
Pitt (cpu)

Offense - All American
Defense - Varsity
95 Threshold
Normal Speed
Only changes made were to FG and Punt for HUM and CPU
Auto Subs implemented as well

- Look folks, default is where it is at this year. But, if you must, continue frustrating yourself with slider sets...

[gymrat8168]

I agree that the game plays pretty well on default. However most of us that use sliders use them because on default the game is far to easy which makes it highly unrealistic. When I first got the game I used default AA and went undefeated with Old Dominion. Just because you seem to get a challenge from default does not mean that default is the way to go for everyone. Realistic stats and visuals are meaningless if I can go undefeated every year with any one star school.