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  • Miles Perry
    MVP
    • Jul 2012
    • 1474

    #1

    Minimum Changes, Maximum Results (Sliders)

    I've tried countless slider sets and haven't been completely happy with any of them. So a few friends and I set out to create a slider set with minimal tweaks. We think we've finally gotten them where we want them to be. The goal for this set was to make it very difficult to win with a significantly worse team.

    Please give us your feedback and thoughts! I'll answer any and all questions on here!

    Updated 12/8/2014

    All skill levels: Heisman
    Quarter Length: 8-10 minutes, up to you, we play 8.
    Game Speed: Slow
    Speed Threshold: 5
    Penalties (Note: Penalties in this game are broken, if you're trying to get a realistic number of penalties every game you are doing it wrong because they affect gameplay more than calls).
    Offsides: 55
    False Start: 50
    Holding: 50
    Facemask: 5 (Solves the lack of fumble problem)
    OPI: 1
    DPI: 1
    KR/PR Interference: 50
    Clipping: 50
    Intentional Grounding: 50
    Roughing the Passer: 54
    Roughing the Kicker: 50

    Sliders: (User/CPU)
    QB Acc: 5/50
    Pass Block: 45/55
    Catching: 25/45
    RB Ability: 35/75 (Your RB WILL seem sluggish to start the game)
    Run Block: 25/75
    Coverage: 35/75
    Ints: 30/35
    Rush D: 25/85
    Tackling: 40/50
    FG Power: 50/50
    FG Acc: 50/50
    Punt Power: 50/50
    Punt Acc: 50/75
    Kickoff Power: 45/50

    How we play:
    I personally try to limit the read options and corner routes as I believe they are over powered. We also sim ALL field goals for more realistic percentages. Don't use any "money" plays. None of that pulling up a lineman to block on punt return crap...

    Basically, if you play this game the way it should be played this is a great set. Don't go for it on 4th down unless you're in a position where you A) need to, or B) punting doesn't make sense.

    I'll post some box scores and would love to hear from y'all.
    All edits from this base set will be posted in the next post.
    Last edited by Miles Perry; 12-08-2014, 09:28 PM.
  • Miles Perry
    MVP
    • Jul 2012
    • 1474

    #2
    Re: Minimum Changes, Maximum Results (Sliders)

    GAME SPEED DROPPED TO SLOW
    User Rush D and tackling have been dropped to 40.
    User Pass D dropped to 40.
    CPU Pass Coverage raised to 70.
    CPU Rush D raised to 70 (may go with 65).
    CPU Run Block raised to 65 (may go with 60).
    INTs dropped by 5 for CPU and User

    All FG stats at 50 since we super sim.
    Last edited by Miles Perry; 12-27-2013, 08:36 PM.

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    • jaylu0204
      Rookie
      • Aug 2011
      • 10

      #3
      Re: Minimum Changes, Maximum Results (Sliders)

      Interested in these. Would love to see some boxes.

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      • Remixxxxxxx
        Rookie
        • Mar 2007
        • 17

        #4
        Re: Minimum Changes, Maximum Results (Sliders)

        I'm going to fire up a game in my newly started Texas Tech dynasty with this - I'll post some stats after.

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        • Miles Perry
          MVP
          • Jul 2012
          • 1474

          #5
          Re: Minimum Changes, Maximum Results (Sliders)

          Haven't been on much lately, I'll try and play a game later and post a box score. If not tonight, definitely tomorrow.

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          • Miles Perry
            MVP
            • Jul 2012
            • 1474

            #6
            Re: Minimum Changes, Maximum Results (Sliders)

            Bama vs VT

            <html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8" /><link href="http://dynasties.operationsports.com/css/osdyn.css" rel="stylesheet" type="text/css"></head><body><table cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1" class="osdyn" width="575"><tr class="masthead"><td align="center" colspan="6">Virginia Tech Hokies at Alabama Crimson Tide</td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td width="48%">Sep 7, 2013</td><td align="right" width="10%">1ST</td><td align="right" width="10%">2ND</td><td align="right" width="10%">3RD</td><td align="right" width="10%">4TH</td><td align="right" width="12%">SCORE</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Virginia Tech Hokies (0-0)</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">14</td><td align="right">14</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right" class="active">28</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td><span style="color:#CC0000;">#1</span> Alabama Crimson Tide (0-0)</td><td align="right">7</td><td align="right">10</td><td align="right">7</td><td align="right">6</td><td align="right" class="active">30</td></tr></table><table cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1" class="osdyn spacer" width="575"><tr class="masthead"><td colspan="3">Team Stats Comparison</td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td width="60%"></td><td align="center" width="20%">VT</td><td align="center" width="20%">ALA</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td align="center">Total Offense</td><td align="center">333</td><td align="center">433</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td align="center">Rushing Yards</td><td align="center">127</td><td align="center">118</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td align="center">Passing Yards</td><td align="center">206</td><td align="center">315</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td align="center">First Downs</td><td align="center">11</td><td align="center">21</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td align="center">Punt Return Yards</td><td align="center">0</td><td align="center">17</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td align="center">Kick Return Yards</td><td align="center">45</td><td align="center">89</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td align="center">Total Yards</td><td align="center">378</td><td align="center">539</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td align="center">Turnovers</td><td align="center">1</td><td align="center">2</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td align="center">3rd Down Converstion</td><td align="center">5-9</td><td align="center">8-11</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td align="center">4th Down Conversion</td><td align="center">0-0</td><td align="center">0-0</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td align="center">2-Point Conversion</td><td align="center">0-0</td><td align="center">0-0</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td align="center">Red Zone Touchdowns/Field Goals</td><td align="center">3-3-0</td><td align="center">5-2-3</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td align="center">Penalties</td><td align="center">0-0</td><td align="center">2-15</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td align="center">Posession Time</td><td align="center">13:30</td><td align="center">18"30</td></tr></table></body></html>

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            • Miles Perry
              MVP
              • Jul 2012
              • 1474

              #7
              Re: Minimum Changes, Maximum Results (Sliders)

              Bama vs A&M
              Probably one of the most fun games I've played yet on NCAA. Got down 17-3 early, battled back and won.

              <html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8" /><link href="http://dynasties.operationsports.com/css/osdyn.css" rel="stylesheet" type="text/css"></head><body><table cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1" class="osdyn" width="575"><tr class="masthead"><td align="center" colspan="7">Alabama Crimson Tide at Texas A&M Aggies</td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td width="48%">Sep 14, 2013</td><td align="right" width="8%">1ST</td><td align="right" width="8%">2ND</td><td align="right" width="8%">3RD</td><td align="right" width="8%">4TH</td><td align="right" width="8%">OT</td><td align="right" width="12%">SCORE</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td><span style="color:#CC0000;">#2</span> Alabama Crimson Tide (1-0)</td><td align="right">3</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">7</td><td align="right">10</td><td align="right">6</td><td align="right" class="active">26</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td><span style="color:#CC0000;">#6</span> Texas A&M Aggies (2-0)</td><td align="right">7</td><td align="right">10</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">3</td><td align="right">3</td><td align="right" class="active">23</td></tr></table><table cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1" class="osdyn spacer" width="575"><tr class="masthead"><td colspan="3">Team Stats Comparison</td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td width="60%"></td><td align="center" width="20%">ALA</td><td align="center" width="20%">TA&M</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td align="center">Total Offense</td><td align="center">396</td><td align="center">360</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td align="center">Rushing Yards</td><td align="center">178</td><td align="center">162</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td align="center">Passing Yards</td><td align="center">218</td><td align="center">198</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td align="center">First Downs</td><td align="center">23</td><td align="center">14</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td align="center">Punt Return Yards</td><td align="center">24</td><td align="center">1</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td align="center">Kick Return Yards</td><td align="center">122</td><td align="center">71</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td align="center">Total Yards</td><td align="center">552</td><td align="center">432</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td align="center">Turnovers</td><td align="center">2</td><td align="center">0</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td align="center">3rd Down Converstion</td><td align="center">9-14</td><td align="center">4-12</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td align="center">4th Down Conversion</td><td align="center">0-0</td><td align="center">0-0</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td align="center">2-Point Conversion</td><td align="center">0-0</td><td align="center">0-0</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td align="center">Red Zone Touchdowns/Field Goals</td><td align="center">5-3-1</td><td align="center">3-1-2</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td align="center">Penalties</td><td align="center">0-0</td><td align="center">1-5</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td align="center">Posession Time</td><td align="center">19:45</td><td align="center">12:15</td></tr></table></body></html>

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              • Falacer
                Rookie
                • Aug 2009
                • 132

                #8
                Re: Minimum Changes, Maximum Results (Sliders)

                Thanks for these just started a new dynasty with New Mexico that I want to do on Heisman. Will give these a whirl later tonight.

                Edit: Played two games so far much more challenging at early point of this dynasty. Run defense still seems too strong my 67 rating D held opponents to 86 & 71 yards respectively. CPU interceptions are crazy! Grant it I am doing a very pass heavy run-n-shoot offense but holy cow I'm not even playing top 10 teams yet.
                Last edited by Falacer; 11-27-2013, 03:13 AM.

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                • Falacer
                  Rookie
                  • Aug 2009
                  • 132

                  #9
                  Re: Minimum Changes, Maximum Results (Sliders)

                  Made a couple adjustments so the cpu pass defense wasn't so overly difficult. Started out 5-2 then lost 4 in a row when I hit the heart of my MWC schedule. 2 of my 5 wins were OT wins. Losing those 4 in a row cost me 3 of my 5 top recruit targets.

                  Think I will definitely enjoy these as it doesn't seem like it will be as easy to build up a 1* program.
                  Last edited by Falacer; 11-30-2013, 04:52 AM.

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                  • Miles Perry
                    MVP
                    • Jul 2012
                    • 1474

                    #10
                    Re: Minimum Changes, Maximum Results (Sliders)

                    Thanks for trying them out! I'm glad you're enjoying them. My friends and I have been playing this game for years and we've gotten almost too good. We've tried to create a challenging game because we're tired of going undefeated every season. Still making some tweaks. And yeah pass coverage is pretty crazy for the CPU. THEY MAKE YOU PAY if you throw the ball in to coverage!

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                    • Miles Perry
                      MVP
                      • Jul 2012
                      • 1474

                      #11
                      Re: Minimum Changes, Maximum Results (Sliders)

                      Just got my *** handed to me by Notre Dame. Contemplating raising CPU rush d to 65 tho.

                      <html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8" /><link href="http://dynasties.operationsports.com/css/osdyn.css" rel="stylesheet" type="text/css"></head><body><table cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1" class="osdyn" width="575"><tr class="masthead"><td align="center" colspan="6">Temple Owls at Notre Dame Fighting Irish</td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td width="48%">Sep 7, 2013</td><td align="right" width="10%">1ST</td><td align="right" width="10%">2ND</td><td align="right" width="10%">3RD</td><td align="right" width="10%">4TH</td><td align="right" width="12%">SCORE</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Temple Owls (0-0)</td><td align="right">3</td><td align="right">7</td><td align="right">7</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right" class="active">17</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Notre Dame Fighting Irish (0-0)</td><td align="right">7</td><td align="right">17</td><td align="right">14</td><td align="right">13</td><td align="right" class="active">51</td></tr></table><table cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1" class="osdyn spacer" width="575"><tr class="masthead"><td colspan="3">Team Stats Comparison</td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td width="60%"></td><td align="center" width="20%">TEM</td><td align="center" width="20%">ND</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td align="center">Total Offense</td><td align="center">356</td><td align="center">507</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td align="center">Rushing Yards</td><td align="center">179</td><td align="center">101</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td align="center">Passing Yards</td><td align="center">177</td><td align="center">406</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td align="center">First Downs</td><td align="center">21</td><td align="center">19</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td align="center">Punt Return Yards</td><td align="center">0</td><td align="center">0</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td align="center">Kick Return Yards</td><td align="center">204</td><td align="center">90</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td align="center">Total Yards</td><td align="center">560</td><td align="center">597</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td align="center">Turnovers</td><td align="center">3</td><td align="center">0</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td align="center">3rd Down Converstion</td><td align="center">8-12</td><td align="center">6-10</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td align="center">4th Down Conversion</td><td align="center">0-1</td><td align="center">0-0</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td align="center">2-Point Conversion</td><td align="center">0-0</td><td align="center">0-0</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td align="center">Red Zone Touchdowns/Field Goals</td><td align="center">3-2-1</td><td align="center">5-4-1</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td align="center">Penalties</td><td align="center">1-10</td><td align="center">3-25</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td align="center">Posession Time</td><td align="center">19:54</td><td align="center">12:05</td></tr></table></body></html>

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                      • Falacer
                        Rookie
                        • Aug 2009
                        • 132

                        #12
                        Re: Minimum Changes, Maximum Results (Sliders)

                        Yea I've tried not to tweak the sliders anymore but damn I've had to work my butt off to win 3 of my first 4 games of season 2 with New Mexico. I have not really run the ball all too much but I end up in the high 60s for pass attempts each game.

                        My D only has a 70 rating so I expect my opponents to have it easy moving the ball. Tried 3 different playbooks for my pass heavy offense but have not come across one that I want to stick with yet.

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                        • Miles Perry
                          MVP
                          • Jul 2012
                          • 1474

                          #13
                          Re: Minimum Changes, Maximum Results (Sliders)

                          I've always wanted to run an Air Raid dynasty but have never been able to. I end up throwing too many picks.

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                          • Falacer
                            Rookie
                            • Aug 2009
                            • 132

                            #14
                            Re: Minimum Changes, Maximum Results (Sliders)

                            I've tried that then Run and Shoot & Texas Tech playbook. Run and Shoot is my default for now but once I get some better skill people I'll probably change to the Texas Tech playbook.

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                            • Miles Perry
                              MVP
                              • Jul 2012
                              • 1474

                              #15
                              Re: Minimum Changes, Maximum Results (Sliders)

                              I usually run a spread offense with a run emphasis (something like Auburn). I'm a huge believer in using the run to set up the pass.

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