As real as it gets CPU vs. CPU sliders

[zocrates]

Quote: Originally Posted by bamnmoe

Does it matter what roster you use while using these? Just wondering if that would change how the game plays at all

I actually forget exactly what rosters I'm using, but they're the original rosters, but with the real names added.

[GreenGlen]

Going to try 9 minute quarters for more snaps to keep average with the cpu generated snaps.

[bamnmoe]

Hey Zocrates any new changes/box scores?

[zocrates]

Quote: Originally Posted by GreenGlen

Going to try 9 minute quarters for more snaps to keep average with the cpu generated snaps.

You'll definitely get a more accurate total number of plays with 9 minute quarters, BUT...it will throw off the individual statistics, especially for the QBs. In CPU vs. CPU mode, the computer throws more often than they do IRL, so you'll end up with an average of about 40 attempts per game, when it should be about 32.

With 8 minute quarters, the RBs get the right amount of carries, individually, and the QBs get the right amount of pass attempts. The only difference is that you'll be short about 3-6 plays, which is usually accounted for the real life teams using the third-string RB 3-6 times per game, which the game does not do.

So, essentially, the total rushing stats will be off by about 10-20 yards per game if you use 8 minute quarters. If you use 9 minute quarters, you might get a more accurate number of plays, but the QBs will have way more attempts at the end of the year and you'll almost always be in the top of the passing yard totals.

The other issue with 9 minute quarters is you'll get a few more sacks, and that stat is already off by quite a bit, so any additional sacks would be overkill.

[zocrates]

Quote: Originally Posted by bamnmoe

Hey Zocrates any new changes/box scores?

Hey, I actually played a full dynasty season with an updated set I've been using (slightly different from what's on the OP right now), and I've never actually gotten through a whole season without having to go back to the drawing board, so this is a good sign.

I don't want to post any box scores from the dynasty since they're all fictional guys at this point, but basically I have a stacked Florida Gators team with a ton of 95+ players at this point and they're running the table as they should, with some really realistic results.

I've actually had some issues with past settings against FCS teams where their passing game would be too strong for whatever reason, but the one FCS game I set to CPU vs CPU was an 86-7 massacre, and that was after putting in the 2nd team offense late in the third quarter.

I'm going to go back and use this set with the default rosters and hopefully they will have similar results and I'll start posting box scores and the updated settings here very soon.

[zocrates]

I think I'm finally about as close to the most realistic set possible with CPU vs. CPU. I just updated the OP with the new settings (changes are in red) and I'm going to start posting a few box scores from the test games I've run, starting with the VA Tech/ Alabama game below. I'll also post the overall numbers from the test as compared to the real life numbers, which are about as close as we can possibly get within the limitations of the game.

Virginia Tech Hokies at Alabama Crimson Tide
Jan 1,	1ST	2ND	3RD	4TH	SCORE
Virginia Tech Hokies (0-1)	0	3	3	0	6
#1 Alabama Crimson Tide (1-0)	3	10	0	7	20

Team Stats Comparison
	VT	ALA
Total Offense	199	397
Rushing Yards	82	149
Passing Yards	117	248
First Downs
Punt Return Yards	24	39
Kick Return Yards	0	20
Total Yards	223	456
Turnovers	1	2
3rd Down Converstion
4th Down Conversion
2-Point Conversion
Red Zone Touchdowns/Field Goals
Penalties
Posession Time

Virginia Tech Hokies PASSING C/A YDS TD INT L. Thomas 11/19 117 0 0 RUSHING ATT YDS AVG TD J. Coleman 13 30 2.3 0 L. Thomas 12 37 3.0 0 T. Gregory 1 15 15.0 0 RECEIVING REC YDS AVG TD D. Knowles 4 69 17.2 0 J. Coleman 3 25 8.3 0 D. Coles 2 7 3.5 0 R. Malleck 1 3 3.0 0 J. Caleb 1 13 13.0 0 KICKING FG XP PTS LONG C. Journell 2/2 0/0 6 41 PUNTING NO YDS AVG IN20 A. Hughes 8 390 48.7 1

Alabama Crimson Tide PASSING C/A YDS TD INT A. McCarron 19/34 248 2 2 RUSHING ATT YDS AVG TD T. Yeldon 24 164 6.8 0 A. McCarron 9 -19 -2.1 0 K. Drake 4 4 1.0 0 RECEIVING REC YDS AVG TD D. White 7 96 13.7 0 K. Bell 4 72 18.0 0 C. Jones 3 21 7.0 0 B. Vogler 3 47 15.6 2 A. Cooper 1 13 13.0 0 T. Yeldon 1 -1 -1.0 0 KICKING FG XP PTS LONG C Foster 2/3 2/2 8 30 PUNTING NO YDS AVG IN20 C. Mandell 3 129 43.0 0

[zocrates]

Rice Owls at Texas A&M Aggies
Jan 1,	1ST	2ND	3RD	4TH	SCORE
Rice Owls (0-1)	3	3	3	0	9
#4 Texas A&M Aggies (1-0)	14	10	10	3	37

Team Stats Comparison
	RICE	TA&M
Total Offense	286	472
Rushing Yards	94	209
Passing Yards	192	263
First Downs
Punt Return Yards	0	48
Kick Return Yards	51	53
Total Yards	337	573
Turnovers	0	0
3rd Down Converstion
4th Down Conversion
2-Point Conversion
Red Zone Touchdowns/Field Goals
Penalties
Posession Time

Rice Owls PASSING C/A YDS TD INT T. McHargue 27/36 192 0 0 RUSHING ATT YDS AVG TD T. McHargue 24 11 0.4 0 C. Ross 19 81 4.2 0 T. Petersen 2 -1 -0.5 0 J. Eddington 1 3 3.0 0 RECEIVING REC YDS AVG TD K. Kubiak 7 44 6.2 0 C. Ross 5 16 3.2 0 J. Taylor 4 54 13.5 0 A. Gautreaux 4 21 5.2 0 C. Cella 3 17 5.6 0 D. Moore 3 35 11.6 0 R. Mitchell 1 5 5.0 0 KICKING FG XP PTS LONG C. Boswell 3/3 0/0 9 25 PUNTING NO YDS AVG IN20 C. Decell 5 204 40.8 0

Texas A&M Aggies PASSING C/A YDS TD INT J. Manziel 21/27 263 2 0 RUSHING ATT YDS AVG TD J. Manziel 15 108 7.2 1 B. Malena 15 98 6.5 1 B. Williams 1 3 3.0 0 RECEIVING REC YDS AVG TD B. Malena 5 39 7.8 0 M. Kennedy 5 24 4.8 0 J. Williams 4 79 19.7 1 R. Seals-Jones 4 71 17.7 1 N. Hicks 1 -2 -2.9 0 T. Williams 1 11 11.0 0 B. Williams 1 41 41.0 0 KICKING FG XP PTS LONG T. Bertolet 3/4 4/4 13 47 PUNTING NO YDS AVG IN20 D. Kaser 1 25 25.0 0

[zocrates]

Georgia Bulldogs at Clemson Tigers
Jan 1,	1ST	2ND	3RD	4TH	SCORE
#5 Georgia Bulldogs (0-1)	7	14	7	3	31
#9 Clemson Tigers (1-0)	14	13	0	11	38

Team Stats Comparison
	UGA	CLEM
Total Offense	332	510
Rushing Yards	100	231
Passing Yards	232	279
First Downs
Punt Return Yards	16	65
Kick Return Yards	86	104
Total Yards	434	679
Turnovers	1	3
3rd Down Converstion
4th Down Conversion
2-Point Conversion
Red Zone Touchdowns/Field Goals
Penalties
Posession Time

Georgia Bulldogs PASSING C/A YDS TD INT A. Murray 19/31 232 2 1 RUSHING ATT YDS AVG TD T. Gurley 17 97 5.7 0 K. Marshall 3 16 5.3 1 A. Murray 2 -13 -6.5 0 RECEIVING REC YDS AVG TD R. Wooten 6 33 5.5 0 C. Conley 5 123 24.6 2 A. Lynch 4 69 17.2 0 T. Gurley 2 3 1.5 0 J. Rumph 1 1 1.0 0 K. Marshall 1 3 3.0 0 KICKING FG XP PTS LONG M. Morgan 1/2 4/4 7 49 PUNTING NO YDS AVG IN20 C. Barber 6 282 47.0 0

Clemson Tigers PASSING C/A YDS TD INT T. Boyd 19/34 279 0 3 RUSHING ATT YDS AVG TD R. McDowell 27 175 6.4 0 T. Boyd 18 34 1.8 2 D. Howard 5 22 4.4 2 RECEIVING REC YDS AVG TD S. Watkins 6 92 15.3 0 G. Hopper 4 78 19.5 0 C. Peake 4 32 8.0 0 A. Humphries 2 40 20.0 0 S. Seckinger 1 21 21.0 0 D. Howard 1 16 16.0 0 S. Cooper 1 0 0.0 0 KICKING FG XP PTS LONG C. Catanzaro 3/4 3/3 12 42 PUNTING NO YDS AVG IN20 B. Pinion 2 86 43.0 0