Jerseys on XBOX Live Marketplace?

[spankdatazz22]

I don't know what gets me more - the fact that EA thought about withholding jerseys to make people pay in the first place, or the fact that some of you are justifying it. If they go that route, it's nickel-and-diming - no other way to put it.

freaking paying for mascots lol

[SportsTop]

Quote: Originally Posted by spankdatazz22

I don't know what gets me more - the fact that EA thought about withholding jerseys to make people pay in the first place, or the fact that some of you are justifying it. If they go that route, it's nickel-and-diming - no other way to put it. freaking paying for mascots lol

Yeah, because not having mascots already included in the game completely ruins it.

When some of you people grow up and understand what business and capitalism are about then you'll feel less inclined to gripe about it.

You don't want/don't care about mascots or some alternate uniforms (that may be worn once a year), then don't pay the $2-$5 extra dollars for them. You can take said extra many and go buy a pack of cigarettes or a bottle of soda or something really meaningful in your life.

[ODogg]

Quote: Originally Posted by Squint

Yeah, because not having mascots already included in the game completely ruins it. When some of you people grow up and understand what business and capitalism are about then you'll feel less inclined to gripe about it. You don't want/don't care about mascots or some alternate uniforms (that may be worn once a year), then don't pay the $2-$5 extra dollars for them. You can take said extra many and go buy a pack of cigarettes or a bottle of soda or something really meaningful in your life.

HAHA well said man. i guess being an older gamer I don't feel the same sense of entitlement some of these younger guys do. in my day, alternate jerseys were not in the games at all...because they were considered "extra's" so that's probably why i don't feel bad about paying a minimal fee for an "extra" as such if they do go that route.

the bottom line is ask yourself this, with or without these alternate jerseys, cleats, etc, are you getting your $60 worth out of the game? considering I know most of you play NCAA and Madden nonstop you're getting more than your moneys worth with or without these things being in the game.

[spankdatazz22]

Quote: Originally Posted by Squint

Yeah, because not having mascots already included in the game completely ruins it. When some of you people grow up and understand what business and capitalism are about then you'll feel less inclined to gripe about it. You don't want/don't care about mascots or some alternate uniforms (that may be worn once a year), then don't pay the $2-$5 extra dollars for them. You can take said extra many and go buy a pack of cigarettes or a bottle of soda or something really meaningful in your life.

It's not a gripe; it's commentary on the situation. It's fine if you guys don't have a problem with it; I wasn't going to purchase the game until they get the gameplay up to snuff. The funny thing is I could care less about the mascots myself. But that's besides the point; that this is an "innovation" EA/Tiburon is pioneering is the troubling thing. And also troubling that so many of you are willing to bend over and happily look the other way and justify this nickle and dime stuff.

I'm trying to think of one significant enhancement Tiburon is bringing to the table with NCAA 360 this year. Let's see... there's this new kick meter, and this momentum meter they're looking to unveil. Some spiffy new soft-tackle animations, were it seems defenders still have problems falling down and possibly getting dirt on their uniforms. IF they go forward with this microtransactions for additional jersey stuff, it will likely be the most significant enhancement to the game (besides the graphics, which should be expected) - but of course, most of the game's fans don't see that as a problem I guess. They can come up with all types of innovative ways to milk consumers, but can't figure out how to get more than one person involved in making a tackle or block.

Perhaps if they put their minds to really trying to make the game better, instead of figuring out additional ways to squeeze more cash out of consumers I wouldn't have a problem with it. The way I see it, you're going to be paying an additional $10 for a next gen game that has less features, and likely less refined gameplay. And on top of that, you'll be paying more if you choose to buy your team mascot, or an alternate uniform for your favorite school. I was just saying it doesn't make sense to ME. To each his own.

Freaking mascots - it's kinda mind-boggling to me that they thought of this in the first place lol

[SportsTop]

I just don't see this as a big deal. If 50% of the NCAA Football gaming consumers don't care either way about mascots or alternate jerseys and the other 50% are die-hards for them, then why not try to make an extra $5 off of the die-hard fans and probably pull in another 20%-30% of those casual gamers? They aren't going to lose their consumer market over this and only stand to make money. Sounds like smart business to me.

What is the difference between this and paying for new downloadable maps for G.R.A.W., COD2, Halo 2, etc.?

How far off are we from purchasing our games via XBox Live or PS3 on-line and no longer needed DVDs/disks? When that happens it will be open season for developers to allow us to pick and choose what to buy for add-ons with our standard game download.

[Cebby]

Quote: Originally Posted by Squint

I just don't see this as a big deal. If 50% of the NCAA Football gaming consumers don't care either way about mascots or alternate jerseys and the other 50% are die-hards for them, then why not try to make an extra $5 off of the die-hard fans and probably pull in another 20%-30% of those casual gamers? They aren't going to lose their consumer market over this and only stand to make money. Sounds like smart business to me. What is the difference between this and paying for new downloadable maps for G.R.A.W., COD2, Halo 2, etc.? How far off are we from purchasing our games via XBox Live or PS3 on-line and no longer needed DVDs/disks? When that happens it will be open season for developers to allow us to pick and choose what to buy for add-ons with our standard game download.

It doesn't irk you a little that they would already have the information and just choose to not include it? Again, if they come out a few months later, that's fine, but if on release day they're online, that's not very nice.

[Pared]

Quote: Originally Posted by ODogg

How is offering add-ons to games screwing anyone? This has been done in the PC market for years. It's just alot of you videogamers are worried you're gonna be nickel'ed and dimed to death and I don't see that happening.

Oh c'mon man... that's bull. You know it, too. If you look at the history of these games, all this stuff was included.

How many other developers removed items from next-gen, then said "Hey, guess what we're selling? We're so cool!" about the removed items now being available again?

And it's only going to get worse. Spiderman 3 with the black symbiote suit that must be bought to use. Player accessories that only cost $.50.

For everyone shouting "that's capitalism" you should also realize it's corporate evil. Instead of giving more to the consumer, they've taken away and try and spin it.

Yet you're right... no one is making anyone pay. However, those that sit there and try and justify it are the same sheep they bet will make the purchase.

Good job.

[ODogg]

Quote: Originally Posted by Pared

Oh c'mon man... that's bull. You know it, too. If you look at the history of these games, all this stuff was included. How many other developers removed items from next-gen, then said "Hey, guess what we're selling? We're so cool!" about the removed items now being available again? And it's only going to get worse. Spiderman 3 with the black symbiote suit that must be bought to use. Player accessories that only cost $.50. For everyone shouting "that's capitalism" you should also realize it's corporate evil. Instead of giving more to the consumer, they've taken away and try and spin it. Yet you're right... no one is making anyone pay. However, those that sit there and try and justify it are the same sheep they bet will make the purchase. Good job.

One could say the last couple years when EA included them in the game at no extra charge we got something extra, but instead it's spun as if, it was in there once, we now demand it in there every year from now on. Just because it's been in past games doesn't mean it's required to be in all future games. It's not anything that is required to constitute a complete football game by any means. It's an extra, I don't see why that is so difficult for alot of you to understand?