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Old 12-19-2007, 12:53 AM   #33
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I am so worn out with this whole new-gen football game experience that I could cry.
There's NO crying in football video gaming! Get some tissues out of your purse, wipe your eyes, pick up your controller and play. You made your bed. Now lie in it.
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Old 12-19-2007, 08:20 AM   #34
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I have read so many testimonials of people that are unhappy with this game and Madden, myself included. Huge steps backward. With all of this talk, Madden gets sports game of the year on the Spike Awards show recently. I truly believe that EA doesn't really have a finger on the pulse of the true sports gamer. They sit atop their mighty perch, snickering and knowing that the brainless sheep will continue to buy the games regardless. I am a brainless sheep, I don't want to be, I am just a sucker for sports gaming. I am so unhappy, but I continue to play. I would rather have a sucky game than no game at all.
I really don't understand why if you, and other people, are so unhappy you continue to buy the game. Yes I know you'll say you'd rather have something than nothing but I personally cannot see that. When I didn't like the MLB take on baseball I simply refused to buy it and played old baseball games. People who don't like Madden/NCAA should simply quit buying it and find an older game with newer rosters. Otherwise you are just supporting what you are complaining about. It's a fruitless endeavor.

And you indicate EA doesn't have their finger on the pulse of the gaming community, yet if you recall after Madden and NCAA were released there was overall very positive feedback here. The biggest complaints was turnovers, not the entire game was bad and most people really disliked it. EA and even the OS'ers here know we are not quite the exact target market of the game, we are more hardcore sports gamers.

So with that in mind the feedback they got here was overall positive. With that being said it appears to me EA does have their fingers on the pulse of the community and continues to evolve the game as such.
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No, you're wrong O, oh so wrong. They're clueless as to what the "community" wants. Even during community events they are asked when "so and so" will finally be in the game. They spit out what the "general public" will accept. There's a difference.

We're so used to mediocrity that it's a joke.

Football gaming used to be sports bliss for me, and I would only wish Baseball and Basketball games would follow suit. Oh, how the times have changed, as both those sports are a much better representation of their sport than football is at this point. There really is nothing new in NCAA we haven't seen years ago. Hell, we don't even have the "next-gen" equivalent of NCAA 2004, highly regarded as the best version of NCAA.

I'll give the team credit for putting out a patch, but that's about it. The producer is simply clueless as to what this game should be and is much more concerned about keeping it what it currently is.
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No, you're wrong O, oh so wrong. They're clueless as to what the "community" wants. Even during community events they are asked when "so and so" will finally be in the game. They spit out what the "general public" will accept. There's a difference.
While in the past I would agree with that sentiment I must say that I disagree at this point, too many things specifically complained about on here were looked at and addressed.

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We're so used to mediocrity that it's a joke.
I'd say that's a bit of an exaggeration although I understand your frustration and share many of the sentiment of this statement.

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Football gaming used to be sports bliss for me, and I would only wish Baseball and Basketball games would follow suit. Oh, how the times have changed, as both those sports are a much better representation of their sport than football is at this point. There really is nothing new in NCAA we haven't seen years ago. Hell, we don't even have the "next-gen" equivalent of NCAA 2004, highly regarded as the best version of NCAA.

I'll give the team credit for putting out a patch, but that's about it. The producer is simply clueless as to what this game should be and is much more concerned about keeping it what it currently is.
I think that the games are getting back on track but still have a ways to go to be on par with the other sports. I don't think the situation is as badly as some of you feel although as I said I understand the frustration because of some of the glaring and somewhat stupid "how did they miss that??" issues that seem to crop up.

However, overall you have to keep in mind that the general public is overwhelmingly satisfied with what EA is offering so it's an uphill battle. Voting with your wallet is really the main thing that EA goes by and so far the votes are in and the vote says that overall the football games are just great.
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You're completely lost if you think the public is "overwhelmingly satisfied." You're just as lost as those who work on the game. I'm sorry but no one in their right mind who follows these titles makes that statement.

I know you love NCAA and Madden but you're not being realistic at all.

The issue is football used to be the BEST video game representation of a sport. Now, it's maybe 5th, after baseball, basketball, soccer and hockey.

And that's a damn shame.
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Old 12-19-2007, 12:56 PM   #38
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Re: 360 Alternate Jerseys

yea, i have to agree. the game on 360 is a complete mess even with the patch. its not even a good representation of football. now i absolutely love the current gen still. im really not happy that ive given them 120 bucks the last two years for what they gave in return. i just hoping that the next gen getting more attention this year will make it better, but it needs to get alot better. its almost hard to even look at the player models, its hard for me to figure out what people are looking at when they say they like this game. i do feel like ea is just giving us the ****ing or they really are having a hard time making this game on this platform. i'm 28 and im a highschool scout and sports contributor and i have loved this game since bill walsh but this is crap. im used to watching film and just football in general and this has nothing that makes me feel like its good football. i mean i played the game for 10 minutes out of the box and i was about to break the damn controller because i couldn't put touch on the football. is there even a football guy in that damn office besides the playbook guys. give us some damn college football.
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You're completely lost if you think the public is "overwhelmingly satisfied." You're just as lost as those who work on the game. I'm sorry but no one in their right mind who follows these titles makes that statement.

I know you love NCAA and Madden but you're not being realistic at all.

The issue is football used to be the BEST video game representation of a sport. Now, it's maybe 5th, after baseball, basketball, soccer and hockey.

And that's a damn shame.
I think you're going by fellow OS'ers and perhaps your friends who are more football savvy and demanding video-game wise opinions. I'm going by the mass public's opinion. I've got friends and family who are casual gamers and they all think the game is fantastic, very fun and there's nothing really wrong with it. The bottom line is the game sells great and that means as far as EA is concerned it's doing very well quality wise.
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lol I can't get through to you. You sound like you're marketing the game at this point instead of having a discussion.

Go to any, ANY website and you'll see the same theme. Speak to any person in a game store and bring up the old versus new thing and you'll see that reoccurring theme again.

Your family doesn't count, O. I bet you brainwashed them.
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