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Old 06-16-2010, 12:22 PM   #57
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cdon2k - You cannot go by message boards to determine who is satisfied vs. dissatisfied. Why? Because people with issues and/or unhappy are the primary ones who post there. People don't sit and think "gee i'm loving Madden, I need to go tell everyone on the message board how much I'm enjoying it and still playing it all year round". However, if someone thinks "this is BS! This game is garbage, what the heck is EA doing?" then the first thing many of them do is run and post it somewhere to get it out of their system and hope it somehow makes the game more to their liking.

It's just human nature.
I am aware that the boards are just a small percentage of the community, but I was also basing it on a few other factors. I am pretty sure I remember reading about Madden's sales declining a bit and that is probably why they brought in Ian and co. to begin with. If Madden was in a good state, there wouldn't have been the '10 revolution where it seems as if they finally began to care about the game. I could be wrong about the sales thing, but there is a definite point where attention was finally given to this franchise.
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Old 06-16-2010, 12:30 PM   #58
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Maybe we should deploy a tactic I use with my 3-year old. Point out a bunch of positives....THEN ask to correct the negative behavior. Works like a charm.
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Old 06-16-2010, 12:34 PM   #59
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cdon2k - yeah, i just took issue with what seemed like a blanket statement to me.

also, I agree that the next-gen is lacking in control compared to last-gen. but I still stand by my statement that those games were savaged as well as the current ones...we just tend to remember the good things about them.
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Old 06-16-2010, 12:45 PM   #60
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cdon2k - yeah, i just took issue with what seemed like a blanket statement to me.

also, I agree that the next-gen is lacking in control compared to last-gen. but I still stand by my statement that those games were savaged as well as the current ones...we just tend to remember the good things about them.
Expectations were also a lot lower back then. EA's college football series didn't start until I think '98, and at least for me everything they did those first couple years seemed ground breaking (I was also pretty young). I bet even now if I were to go back and play NCAA 2001 I'd enjoy it because I know they were only on their 3rd or 4th iteration of the franchise.

Now though have passed the 10 year mark and while there is a noticeable improvement it isn't as much as some people feel there should have been in a franchise that has been around so long.
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Old 06-16-2010, 01:18 PM   #61
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I disagree, the fact that people trashed those games back then means everyone had high expectations even then. I think perhaps more of the most vile, anti-EA stuff is more new, mostly because of the exclusive deals along with the missing features from last-gen to this gen, but I think it's pretty comparable in regards to how people trashed the game itself back then, the exact same way they do now..
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Preference... I think Madden looks better... But NCAA doesn't look bad either.
I won't go too far into my argument here... But all you need to do is read what the Madden team did for franchise mode this year.


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I disagree, the fact that people trashed those games back then means everyone had high expectations even then. I think perhaps more of the most vile, anti-EA stuff is more new, mostly because of the exclusive deals along with the missing features from last-gen to this gen, but I think it's pretty comparable in regards to how people trashed the game itself back then, the exact same way they do now..
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Old 06-16-2010, 02:08 PM   #64
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Someone give me a example of a casual gamer. I really don't think there are that many playing a football game
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