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Old 07-14-2010, 04:40 PM   #9
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Nice work BD. I picture you in front of a chalkboard full of arrows and equations to figure that out.
I do have a sheet of paper with all the names of the teams with arrows. No equations though.
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Old 07-14-2010, 04:46 PM   #10
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I don't believe its official yet, but I heard it would layout something like this...

Pac 10 (North):
Washington
Washington State
Oregon
Oregon State
Utah
Colorado

Pac 10 (South):
USC
Stanford
Cal
UCLA
Arizona
Arizona State
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Have they made the official announcement that this is how the new Pac-10 will be split into divisions?
Nothing official has been decided, but this is the common assumption how it was going to work. It will be the easiest to schedule, and if you schedule it right every team can still get to every geographic area (minus CO and UT) close to every year. The issue is the "North" school not getting to play in LA as much, which is a recruiting hot bed. In the end, I think this is how it will play out.

There is another "zipper" option that splits the natural rivals into separate divisions, but allows them to play their main rival every year.

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Old 07-14-2010, 04:54 PM   #12
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I thought a better alignment would be something like:

Washington State
Oregon
Stanford
UCLA
Arizona
Utah

Washington
Oregon State
Cal
USC
Arizona State
Colorado


Was-WasSt play every year
Ore-OreSt play every year
Sta-Cal play every year
USC-UCLA play every year
Ari-AriSt play every year
Col-Ut play every year

Then the 7th and 8th conference games would rotate, like in the SEC.

The nice thing about this scheduling and divisions means in-state rivals still play every season, but also, in-state rivals could potentially meet in the championship game. Additionally, USC/Oregon, probably the two best teams, are in opposite divisions, and could meet in the championship game.

Also, with this scheduling, you're putting two California teams in each division, guaranteeing that every team in the conference visits Cali at least once per season, which is important for recruiting purposes. If the 4 Cali teams get put in the south division with Arizona, watch out, because the south division is going to have a huge recruiting advantage.
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Old 07-14-2010, 04:57 PM   #13
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I thought a better alignment would be something like:

Washington State
Oregon
Stanford
UCLA
Arizona
Utah

Washington
Oregon State
Cal
USC
Arizona State
Colorado


Was-WasSt play every year
Ore-OreSt play every year
Sta-Cal play every year
USC-UCLA play every year
Ari-AriSt play every year
Col-Ut play every year

Then the 7th and 8th conference games would rotate, like in the SEC.

The nice thing about this scheduling and divisions means in-state rivals still play every season, but also, in-state rivals could potentially meet in the championship game. Additionally, USC/Oregon, probably the two best teams, are in opposite divisions, and could meet in the championship game.

Also, with this scheduling, you're putting two California teams in each division, guaranteeing that every team in the conference visits Cali at least once per season, which is important for recruiting purposes. If the 4 Cali teams get put in the south division with Arizona, watch out, because the south division is going to have a huge recruiting advantage.

Commenting on your last sentence...
This is why the Big 12 eventually lost teams. All of the power was in the Big 12 South.
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Old 07-14-2010, 05:05 PM   #14
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Yep.

Even in the SEC, the East is probably slightly better, with LSU and Auburn getting a slight advantage in the West as LSU plays Florida every year and Auburn plays Georgia every year.

But as I said, the 7th and 8th conference games rotate.

So for example, Arkansas plays the SEC West, plus South Carolina (Ark-SC play each other every year as the last two additions, which is kind of why I paired Utah/Col). Then Arkansas' 7th and 8th games over the course of a few seasons would look like this:

2005: Vanderbilt, at Georgia
2006: at Vanderbilt, Tennessee
2007: Kentucky, at Tennessee
2008: Florida, at Kentucky
2009: Georgia, at Florida
2010: at Georgia, Vanderbilt

As you can see, 2010 is the same as 2005 was, and 2011 will be the same as 2006, 2012 the same as 2007 etc, and so forth. In a 4 year span you will have played against all of the teams, and in a 5 year span, you will have visited all of them once.
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