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Old 07-24-2010, 04:30 PM   #9
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Re: EA Please Fix AI Ballcarrier Bug.

If it's your preference that the RB run outside more that does not mean that it is broken.....I like the RB to run inside like they do so No problems here on that mattter....

Good Job EA on this game..... Preference doesn't equal problem....
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Re: EA Please Fix AI Ballcarrier Bug.

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CPU Ball Carrier Vision is the problem you guys are seeing.....it's not a game play bug

It's a ratings problem....it clearly states the runners ability to see the open field for the rating

Created Tony Dorsett with 94 vision doesn't run towards the defenders



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Created Air Force QB Dee Dowis with 90 Vision doesn't run back into the defenders



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Created OJ Simpson with 99 Vision uses it to dodge defenders not run back into them



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Created Herschal Walker again 90+ vision doesn't run outside towards the defenders he takes the opening lane to the endzone



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So these guys have high ball carrier awareness. Thats the fix? Well in my 2017 dynasty every running back in the Pac 10 and OOC must have terrible ball carrier vision i guess.

The CPU calls a toss or sweep or anything to the outside and the RB/receiver refuses to keep running the sweep and would much rather run back into the linemen and the rest of the defense even if the outside is completely empty.
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Old 07-24-2010, 04:35 PM   #11
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Re: EA Please Fix AI Ballcarrier Bug.

Before this year, when the CPU team ran a toss or sweep, or completed a swing pass, the rb ran out of bounds for a loss.

This year is way better.
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Yea, that far into a dynasty lots of players will have lower ratings.
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Old 07-24-2010, 04:38 PM   #13
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Re: EA Please Fix AI Ballcarrier Bug.

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So these guys have high ball carrier awareness. Thats the fix? Well in my 2017 dynasty every running back in the Pac 10 and OOC must have terrible ball carrier vision i guess.

The CPU calls a toss or sweep or anything to the outside and the RB/receiver refuses to keep running the sweep and would much rather run back into the linemen and the rest of the defense even if the outside is completely empty.
Yep, only a fix for the players on the default roster which would take forever to do. As soon as the RB recruits come in, with the majority of them not having very good Ball Carrier Vision Ratings the problem would crop up again and since you can't edit recruits there is nothing you can do about.

But it is a least a fix for the default rosters, but like I said it would take forever to do.

Not to mention the ball carrier vison rating being low is not just an issue for RB's, it's an issue for some running qb's as well.

What I find funny is the people in this thread completely dismissing the issue by saying "hey it's better than last year." That doesn't mean there still isn't an issue there that needs to be fixed.
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Old 07-24-2010, 05:10 PM   #14
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Re: EA Please Fix AI Ballcarrier Bug.

It's not the fix. I had Ala. HB do the same thing. He would run toward the middle of the field. It's not the BCV. Because it doesn't happen a lot on "Slow" speed, more on "Normal" speed, but it does happen.

There is something in the game that is keeping ballcarries from going up the sideline. After playing countless games with good and bad HB's it still does it. It does it less on slow speed.

It's a problem that needs to be address.
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Re: EA Please Fix AI Ballcarrier Bug.

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CPU Ball Carrier Vision is the problem you guys are seeing.....it's not a game play bug

It's a ratings problem....it clearly states the runners ability to see the open field for the rating

Created Tony Dorsett with 94 vision doesn't run towards the defenders


http://www.easports.com/static/194.1...ediaplayer.swf flashvars="height=360&width=640&file=http://cdn.content.easports.com/media2011/ncaa11/16370563/662A0001_5_FLV_VIDEO_eGG.flv&link=http://www.easports.com/media/play/video/25302409&linkfromdisplay=true&linktarget=_top&image=" allowfullscreen="true" allowscriptaccess="always" wmode="transparent">EA Sports: NCAA Football 11 Video


Created Air Force QB Dee Dowis with 90 Vision doesn't run back into the defenders


http://www.easports.com/static/194.1...ediaplayer.swf flashvars="height=360&width=640&file=http://cdn.content.easports.com/media2011/ncaa11/16370563/662A0001_4_FLV_VIDEO_kfr.flv&link=http://www.easports.com/media/play/video/25181801&linkfromdisplay=true&linktarget=_top&image=" allowfullscreen="true" allowscriptaccess="always" wmode="transparent">EA Sports: NCAA Football 11 Video


Created OJ Simpson with 99 Vision uses it to dodge defenders not run back into them


http://www.easports.com/static/194.1...ediaplayer.swf flashvars="height=360&width=640&file=http://cdn.content.easports.com/media2011/ncaa11/16370563/662A0001_2_FLV_VIDEO_zKb.flv&link=http://www.easports.com/media/play/video/25302861&linkfromdisplay=true&linktarget=_top&image=" allowfullscreen="true" allowscriptaccess="always" wmode="transparent">EA Sports: NCAA Football 11 Video


Created Herschal Walker again 90+ vision doesn't run outside towards the defenders he takes the opening lane to the endzone


http://www.easports.com/static/194.1...ediaplayer.swf flashvars="height=360&width=640&file=http://cdn.content.easports.com/media2011/ncaa11/16370563/662A0001_3_FLV_VIDEO_AZk.flv&link=http://www.easports.com/media/play/video/25302909&linkfromdisplay=true&linktarget=_top&image=" allowfullscreen="true" allowscriptaccess="always" wmode="transparent">EA Sports: NCAA Football 11 Video
These are meaningless. None of those runs should have been bounced outside, and none were. The issue is when the CPU's best option is to take the ball to the sideline, too often the CPU will cut to the middle of the field and right into the hands of waiting defenders. It can kill CPU drives and make winning too easy. It happens with any runner, despite there awarness, it most certainly is a programming flaw.
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Re: EA Please Fix AI Ballcarrier Bug.

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So these guys have high ball carrier awareness. Thats the fix? Well in my 2017 dynasty every running back in the Pac 10 and OOC must have terrible ball carrier vision i guess.

The CPU calls a toss or sweep or anything to the outside and the RB/receiver refuses to keep running the sweep and would much rather run back into the linemen and the rest of the defense even if the outside is completely empty.
I had to take down some of my other videos about this same subject

But I have videos of edited RB's for Air Force doing exactly what you'd like to see them do in the game.

I've posted videos of RB's cutting back away from the defensive pursuit and also QB's attacking the open lane in the option

Now granted it takes more than just simple tweak to the Ball Carrier Vision rating.....there are other ratings that have to be edited to make it all come together as one.

Also to the poster who said it's pointless to edit players because the recruits will mess it up all over again....I agree with 100% that the recruits coming in screws it up all over

But you can either enjoy great game play for 2-3 years or you can suffer with this type of gameplay for every year of your dynasty wihtout ever seeing the greatness part of it by editing.

That is what I see in gameplay because I'm a patient person and woudl rather handle the flaws myself than aiet for EA to correct it....in which case we all know has about a 25% chance of happening if it happens at all.

So like i said a global Editor is what this game truly needs.....much like NBA Live/NBA Elite or Fifa

Until then 80-90% of the people on the boards won't ever get to witness the beauty of gameplay through edited rosters and ratings. Sure there are roster makers looking to lower ratings of players and make sure all the right players are on the teams. But that doesn't really fix the QB logic on the option or the problems spoken about in the in this thread.

But I have proof that some of these of issues can be fixed by the individual himself especially if he has good knowledge on how each rating effects gameplay on the field.

Is it time consuming.....hell yeah it is

I've had to endure it the past 4 years now myself.....but the end results is beautiful.
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